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Hub Cat posted:I linked it upthread Meghna Jayanth pointed out that Bevan's father was the High Commissioner to India(basically equivalent to a US Ambassador but probably worse because of the colonial history) The British Raj part is a jokey shot at how they are aristocracy as that was the name for the British colonial rule of India not a title, the leader would have been a Governor-General. For the sake of accuracy, her dad was High Commissioner from 2011-2015. It doesn't look like her dad was ever posted in India before that, so I don't think the claim she spent her teenage years there is actually true. Her dad's basically a senior civil servant, apparently her mum's an english teacher. Doesn't change the general truth that her husband's an abuser and the attack on "cyberbullies" is a scummy move.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i hope not but you never know. Ariong posted:Doesn’t/didn’t he have an account here? Or was ropekid someone else who worked at obsidian? It should be noted a lot of devs have accounts there, almost everyone involved in crpgs in the 2000s really. It was one of the first really big sites for talking about rpgs going back to the early 2000s if not the 90s. But like any poorly moderated nerd space it metastasised into a nazi shithole and most devs have avoided it for a decade plus. Avellone gets poo poo cause he's been hanging out there a lot since 2018. Edit: Basically a dev having an account there isn't a red flag, a dev using their account recently kinda is. A Sometimes Food fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Sage Grimm posted:https://twitter.com/JessyQuil/status/1274414714630660100 Another list of problem twitch streamers showed up yesterday. See if you can spot any you've watched (I have I didn’t recognize any of the names except for AngryJoe, but I was still heartbroken at the length of the list. I’d like to put a spotlight on this article because it’s horrible. I was nervous just reading it. https://medium.com/@WookieMonsterTV/my-interaction-with-angryjoe-d715aedb0e02
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Jeez. While I never liked Angry Joe's actual content, I always thought that he was a chill guy otherwise. That kinda seriously blows. I used to watch PaperBatVG, he used to do pretty enjoyable Minecraft content. But drat. That he's a creepy abuser pedo guy too, that's hosed. idk who paperbart but i am not surprised about joe. he always kinds struck me as having a shittier side but drat.
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one of the top shout casters in the CSGO scene just had extremely disturbing and credible accusations come out against him. I'm glad this is finally happening, but I'm aghast that I followed this guy for years without thinking anything like that. edit: it's seriously dire but here https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr9i71 she doesn't even call him a rapist, but if his statements were true to her, he knows that he was. Famethrowa fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:idk who paperbart but i am not surprised about joe. he always kinds struck me as having a shittier side but drat.
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I just saw this linked on the twitch reddit (a load of youtube/streamer people have been accused). I am not sure if this sub reddit is safe for work or what the comments will be like so enter at your own risk. https://old.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/hdhyd1/dozens_of_women_have_levied_sexual_assault/
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Hub Cat posted:I'm pretty sure he actually believes this and thinks that their accusations were retaliation for the Eurogamer article about Failbetter's financial troubles which largely quotes Kennedy, you would have to be a huge narcissist and abuser to think that way but well here we are. Maybe it caused massive behind the scenes personal fallout between Alexis and Failbetter. I can see why it would, given that so far as I can tell it involves him talking out of school largely about stuff that happened after he left, which he wasn't involved with, in which he second-guesses the new management's decisions and opinionates about situations which, so far as I can tell, he wasn't actually involved in. Sure, there's other unnamed sources and I guess it makes sense that Eurogamer would seek Kennedy's views, but it really does come across as him going out of his way to brief against the new management. The idea that Failbetter co-ordinated the callouts against him is a conspiracy theory and not credible. On the other hand, it really looks like Alexis took to the press to publicly fire shots at Failbetter first. It would not have been appropriate for Failbetter to shoot back without good cause (such as the writer of two of their most successful games and their founder and former boss getting called out on social media about stuff he did by dint of his position at Failbetter). But if there was a feud there, it's not true to say that Alexis is an innocent lamb who didn't participate. And trying to pivot this situation to further whatever it is that Alexis has against Failbetter seems like an astonishingly bad move.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Techland have cut ties with Chris Avellone Paradox also cutting him the gently caress loose. https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/1275107269643063300
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Warthur posted:Of all the articles for Failbetter to supposedly launch a vendetta over, this conga line of instances where the article author and their sources keep saying "eh, not sure this was necessarily the best move, but it's a complex situation so maybe it was" feels like a pretty weaksauce one. To get this out of the way, I don't believe that there is any credence to the idea that Failbetter games coordinated or even took advantage of Alexis Kennedy being credibly accused by multiple women of abuse and predatory behavior and honestly I feel guilty for putting into words an idea that adds even a tiny amount of legitimacy to Kennedy's paranoid conspiracy. The reason I became aware of that article is that Bevan specifically linked to it in her attempt to insinuate that Failbetter was behind the "Cyberbullying" but it did connect some dots on the why of Kennedy's thought process that had been in the back of my mind for a while. This sort of paranoid magical thinking that everyone acts as he does and every criticism is an intentional attack is basically a hallmark of the kind of narcissistic abuser I believe Kennedy to be and the hypocrisy of him "taking the first shot" would be completely lost on him or considered fair play for them destroying his company or something equally narcissistic as that. And yeah him continuing to dredge this up to take shots is an incredibly bad move but his ego won't let him act in any other way. END ME SCOOB posted:Paradox also cutting him the gently caress loose. Good Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jun 23, 2020 |
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exquisite tea posted:You know, I really DID just want to shoot poo poo. But instead we’re watching a poo poo chute.
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Hub Cat posted:To get this out of the way, I don't believe that there is any credence to the idea that Failbetter games coordinated or even took advantage of Alexis Kennedy being credibly accused by multiple women of abuse and predatory behavior and honestly I feel guilty for putting into words an idea that adds even a tiny amount of legitimacy to Kennedy's paranoid conspiracy. The only reason I even became aware of that article is that Bevan specifically linked to it in her attempt to insinuate that Failbetter was behind the "Cyberbullying" but it did connect some dots on the why of Kennedy's thought process. Good spot on the link, BTW, and I'd encourage people to go read it. It's another in the parade of articles heavily sourcing Kennedy that came out in the gap between him leaving Failbetter and the stories coming out last year which feel weirdly off, alongside the one which was profiling him and Lotte's relationship where the journalist later said "Yeah, hands up, I got played on that one and I regret writing it." Warthur fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jun 23, 2020 |
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So I can stop overthinking and rewriting this post into a way that I think is good. It's all good I didn't think you were being lovely and I think my post comes off as hostile towards you when I didn't really intend it that way so my bad.Warthur posted:alongside the one which was profiling him and Lotte's relationship where the journalist later said "Yeah, hands up, I got played on that one and I regret writing it." Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Jun 23, 2020 |
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Speaking of games writers and abuse: https://twitter.com/ericsapp/status/1275229712126640132 This one is harder to find a nexus on but the three men named were ex-IGN/Gamespot/Future staff going back to the 1UP era who have been openly mentioned as being some of the most abusive, terrible humans to work under and there are a few people tossing out some "It's not my story but there's some after-hours poo poo" related to them. Two of the three of them now work for a "consulting" firm that may or may not be padding their resumes based on what a few ex-staffers at places they claim to work/edits to the site are now changing. These are some of the larger threads I could find with stories rather than just "oh gently caress these guys!" one tweet chorus from their ex-employees. https://twitter.com/inkydojikko/status/1275297428804001792 https://twitter.com/seaninallcaps/status/1275235757125296129 https://twitter.com/bobservo/status/1275320891732156416 https://twitter.com/bobservo/status/1275290568973709321 Separately, and a lot less of this has crossed my timeline since I know/follow less people who dealt with this one directly, an ex-Gamespot manager who was legit fired by HR a while ago is supposed to have a taste for the too young to know better women beneath him. https://twitter.com/AStraww/status/1274773201336143872 https://twitter.com/Lighthammer_/status/1275285528485617664
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Zongerian posted:Average woman in the game industry: Yeah I can't accept drinks from strangers or leave mine unattended or go anywhere by myself at industry events, but I really want to work in games so hopefully we can change that bullying is bullying, but go off king
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Hi Mom, the 6 figure job didn't work out so I'm coming home, it all started when I was eating a shrimp cocktail during a meeting...
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Zongerian posted:Hi Mom, the 6 figure job didn't work out so I'm coming home, it all started when I was eating a shrimp cocktail during a meeting... ah yes, games journalist, that well known 6 figgie job
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Zongerian posted:Hi Mom, the 6 figure job didn't work out so I'm coming home, it all started when I was eating a shrimp cocktail during a meeting... Doubling down on mocking the guy isn't great. Dude was in a toxic situation and imo did the right thing by getting out and going public with it.
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Jippa posted:Isn't he just confirming that the people were idiots when he worked for them on top of all the stories? Yeah the other stories about those people are literally about the toxic bullying culture they created as management, and how it drove people out but lmao snowflake jokes or something
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I do like rainbows, puppies, and ice cream. So it wouldn't bother me at all if somebody said something like that to me. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Man it's going to be weird seeing the usual chorus of "well I never liked his stuff anyways  " posturing people do when a predator gets outed after 20 years of Planescape being hailed as one of the best game narratives of all time and a decade of New Vegas as the gold standard of open world storytelling.
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Sleeveless posted:Man it's going to be weird seeing the usual chorus of "well I never liked his stuff anyways Nah. I think there will be a bit more acknowledgement of the fact that his role in a lot of the games he gets Games Media Worshipped for was always overblown though. He has always been a spotlight chaser, in contrast to dudes like Sawyer who always try to correct people when they reflexively attribute everything in a game to him, and points out the lesser known writers. Death to the Great Man theory of game development.
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Sleeveless posted:Man it's going to be weird seeing the usual chorus of "well I never liked his stuff anyways That and the current flood of “We’d like to make it clear that we’ve already removed every trace of his content from the game; in fact in most cases we never included it in the first place”. 10/10 to them for doing the right thing once there was no alternative, but a penalty of at least half that for knowing the rumours about him and still choosing to hire him.
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