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as part of their campaign to turn the game into poo poo as fast as they can, now they took away the free thicc cases from the ledx quest and the lv 40 quest
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hakimashou posted:as part of their campaign to turn the game into poo poo as fast as they can, now they took away the free thicc cases from the ledx quest and the lv 40 quest what the gently caress
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Jun 22, 2020 22:51
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What the gently caress. It's an items case now. I'm usually on the live and let live side, the FiR changes were annoying to me and made the game a little more unfun but I could see the reason behind it (hatchet runners) and I was fine to play with them. This change though... changing this midway through the wipe just fucks anyone that didn't rush this questline. I get that the idea is to make it harder to make money which theoretically extends the "mid-game", but this isn't one of those things that you can change mid-wipe. The wealth disparity is only going to grow because of this.
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Jun 22, 2020 22:57
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yep, and it's one of the quests that was formerly about as important a QOL boost as the Kappa while being a significantly more realistic goal for the majority of players changing it mid-wipe is insane, but if they had to do it (they didn't) not adjusting the quest requirements is just loving insulting, since even beyond the storage space differential the quests has gone from a guaranteed significant boost in rouble value to an unholy money pit (currently 1 ledx by itself is about an icase + 6-800k left over) LGD fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Jun 22, 2020 23:02
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imagine how bad the next wipe is going to be with the rest of the changes they're gonna make
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Jun 22, 2020 23:08
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I can't believe they changed that THICC case quest. Why the gently caress. Why in the world would they ever limit money sink items that help manage your inventory. It's ridiculous.
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Jun 22, 2020 23:30
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it's loving amazing: if they were that concerned about people getting a huge infusion of roubles from other players by selling their thicc on the flea market, literally all they had to do was take advantage of their own recent changes and make it a non-FIR reward!
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Jun 22, 2020 23:36
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ThePineapple posted:What the gently caress. It's an items case now. The problem is once some idiot decides to concede that "hatchet runners are a problem," the thin end of the wedge is in, and it prises open the door for the rest of the garbage. Unsurprisingly, because this whole campaign was started on such an inane stupid basis, the outcome of all the stupid decisions is that the incentive to hatchet run are much much higher this wipe than in previous wipes.
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Jun 23, 2020 01:31
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It's almost like Battlestate is a loving clown college and hasn't made a good decision since like 0.7 or whenever the first quest iteration was. That's mildly hyperbolic but goddamn.
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Jun 23, 2020 01:43
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hakimashou posted:The problem is once some idiot decides to concede that "hatchet runners are a problem," the thin end of the wedge is in, and it prises open the door for the rest of the garbage. Haki was unironically right about everything all along. Dehumanize yourself and submit to playing fulltime to have fun
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Jun 23, 2020 01:55
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I feel like someone just had an open jira ticket or whatever that was created 2 years ago and they finally got around to deploying it without considering that requirements have changed since recent development - I can’t think of any reason to not just make the reward non-FIR if they felt it was too much of an easy shekel button (which is dumb because by the time you’re completing that you’re probably on autopilot anyways as far as personal economy is concerned - as soon as you get bitcoin farm and scav case game is ez mode, but whatever)
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Jun 23, 2020 02:10
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Usually I'm pretty forgiving for changes BSG makes because they're usually not a huge deal. But this is just straight up stupid. They give me an avenue to literally print money in my hideout, but remove a quest reward like this mid wipe? Reminds me of the endurance and strength reset mid last wipe. The only people it negatively affected were people who didn't cheese stats...because everyone else just cheesed them again.
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Jun 23, 2020 04:40
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Is this game out of early access yet?
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Jun 23, 2020 04:41
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lol this game will never be out of early access
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Jun 23, 2020 05:52
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i mean I’m no game dev but if you were actually worried about current end-state gameplay i feel like you should be looking at balancing weapon effectiveness vs bullet effectiveness vs armor effectiveness, realism be damned, instead of loving with poo poo that helps players actually get to that gameplay. It’s funny cause every decision like this just makes it more and more obvious that bsg has zero idea what they’re doing wrt game theory, gameplay loops, etc
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Jun 23, 2020 06:13
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idiotsavant posted:i mean I’m no game dev but if you were actually worried about current end-state gameplay i feel like you should be looking at balancing weapon effectiveness vs bullet effectiveness vs armor effectiveness, realism be damned, instead of loving with poo poo that helps players actually get to that gameplay. Which is really puzzling. Because their map design is absolutely fantastic. Other than Customs. Customs can rot.
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Jun 23, 2020 08:16
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Nikita just posted on Reddit that it's been changed back to the THICC case.
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Jun 23, 2020 08:22
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And I turned in perfect mediator today, rip my thicc weapons case.
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Jun 23, 2020 09:24
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takes a lot to overcome gamer stockholm syndrome, i guess free thicc cases did it
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Jun 23, 2020 09:51
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Ixtlilton posted:And I turned in perfect mediator today, rip my thicc weapons case. Ouch
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Jun 23, 2020 13:47
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The only way to actually escape from tarkov is to uninstall
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Jun 23, 2020 18:25
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Ixtlilton posted:And I turned in perfect mediator today, rip my thicc weapons case. That sucks.  Fortunately I think your Interchange Guru skills will pull you through 
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Jun 23, 2020 18:32
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I like that Nikitas response was "I didn't know how mad that would make you". Just more proof he is catering to a very specific audience and doesn't think about the majority of players.
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Jun 23, 2020 22:51
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ChesterJT posted:I like that Nikitas response was "I didn't know how mad that would make you". Just more proof he is catering to a very specific audience and doesn't think about the majority of players. also gotta remember that 'the game more popular on twitchtv.com' is their evidence that 'the changes we made are popular'
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Jun 23, 2020 23:40
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idiotsavant posted:It’s funny cause every decision like this just makes it more and more obvious that bsg has zero idea what they’re doing wrt game theory, gameplay loops, etc I mean, the out-of-raid game is just Progress Quest. More interactive than say, the EvE online skill system, but it's still really poo poo. Any change is upsetting to people, because the playerbase likes the easy and plentiful reinforcement (click around for passive income, then hit the raid button to shoot at some people mentally equivalent to PUBG mobile bots) and when that is turned down it becomes more apparent what mindless tedium it is. But turn it up and there is a similar complaint about running into the sheer meaninglessness of the raid itself during later stages of a wipe. I don't think there are tweaks to the existing Tarkov that can be made to make it into an enjoyable game. It's a set of instanced maps that spawn infinite loot, and the rest is LARPing. (I did super enjoy the gunfight visuals and the mix between involved & exciting mechanics - but the part that pretends to be an MMO is an embarrassment to anyone with more than a single firing neuron) Idiot Doom Spiral fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jun 24, 2020 |
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Jun 24, 2020 04:18
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What would you do then to make it a better game?
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Jun 24, 2020 05:03
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he literally.. is hacking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjGuptwu2js he also peeked the corner on my friend and oneshot him within a quarter second as well SSJ_naruto_2003 fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jun 24, 2020 |
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Jun 24, 2020 05:37
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:he literally.. is hacking He's just got a really good gaming chair.
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Jun 24, 2020 08:27
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theres a wild amount of hackers in this wipe, more than i've ever seen before. the hideout is kinda neat but the skill requirements for it are not. if youre going to make strength a requirement make sure its possible to level in a non-ridiculous way. throwing 8 smoke grenades over the area boundary every mission is not rewarding gameplay. jaegers quests are also moronic dogshit. don't add more quests if you don't have good ideas for quests. the found-in-raid status is a good idea to stop people just playing the market rather than playing the game, but its implementation is awful. i love being stuck with a bunch of super valuable gun parts i took from a dead pmc that i cannot sell for anywhere near their value despite having literally found it in raid by playing the game and killing other players.
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Jun 24, 2020 09:04
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juggalo baby coffin posted:theres a wild amount of hackers in this wipe, more than i've ever seen before. "find in raid" doesnt mean you found it in a raid, its a magic enchantment certain items get in certain circumstances for example, items you receive as quest rewards from npcs, although not actually found in a raid, carry the enchantment also items you craft in your hideout, which are also not actually found in raids. its not really a realistic or 'hardcore' game its got fantasy MMO magic stuff in it like this there are other things like you cant take certain items into raids, or throw down certain items, or put certain items inside other items. You used to be able to, mind, before they added the magic video gamey stuff, back when it was a better game
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Jun 24, 2020 09:21
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yeah i miss the old days of going in with a pistol, killing a scav, then putting the pistol in my gamma case. but they decided that was what the problem with the game was, not the economy being destroyed by people only running labs cause it had no keycard requirement and all the good loot lmao what they really should have done if they wanted to stop people just playing the market is put on a 'bought from market' flag instead, that just stops you relisting it on the market. having to find dumb poo poo in raid for quests is a huge pain in the rear end
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Jun 24, 2020 09:34
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Oh they dropped Factory down from 6 to 5 PMC's max? Sounds like as close as possible to an online PVE mode right now for a team learning the game.
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Jun 24, 2020 09:46
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Idiot Doom Spiral posted:I don't think there are tweaks to the existing Tarkov that can be made to make it into an enjoyable game You don't have much of an imagination. First and foremost fix your netcode to catch and ban speed hackers/aimbots. They won't do it because it generates money for them. Either eliminate found-in-raid status altogether or have it make sense. If I found it in a raid, it's loving found in raid. If the first customs ground cache I open has a huge quest item I've been trying for days to get and I make a beeline for the exit to save it, I get run-through and then I didn't find it in raid? gently caress you that's stupid. Let me take groups into offline raids for practice and fun. You could have an arena mode, either 1v1 or teams. Earn cash, loot, or even just points you can use for cosmetics. It would even fit with the lore they've created. Honestly I'd love an "offline" mode where I could get something out of it, like keep some loot or get quest kills or even 30% xp or something. I don't think having open firefights with scavs for quests then getting one-tapped by a silenced thicc boy from across the map is any fun. Options of how to do things is the key, let players play the way they want to. Hell I could spend an hour or two playing the flea market, buying/selling from traders, to make cash. Sounds like fun for me and some players, better eliminate that too. Right now Nikita is using his resources to pigeonhole every player into doing things the sole way he wants it done and doesn't understand why that pisses people off. But as others have pointed out he already has our money and doesn't really care.
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Jun 24, 2020 13:40
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Honestly I'd take just having the existing no-reward offline mode but with squads, would make it a lot easier for new people if they could practice maps with their friends without losing all their stuff. I mostly play with a buddy and we're pretty new so doing offline raids is necessary for map knowledge but since we have to do them separately it feels like doing homework rather than a part of the game you can go into to gently caress around while also learning. Not to mention it would also make it easier to sell additional friends in our group on the game if we could bring them into offline raids to get a feel for the controls and pop a couple scavs instead of just throwing them into the deep end right away in a game with a high learning curve.
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Jun 24, 2020 15:46
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Make good AI, Double/triple the scav number, and give me a offline mode with progression Everything poo poo about this game are the pieces with “online” in its description
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Jun 24, 2020 16:10
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I know a few nice PvE games you could play instead
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Jun 24, 2020 16:29
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Stardew is coop. Manage your inventory squares between romps fighting baddies in the dungeon with your custom kit.
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Jun 24, 2020 16:30
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andyf posted:Oh they dropped Factory down from 6 to 5 PMC's max? Sounds like as close as possible to an online PVE mode right now for a team learning the game. That fuckin rules, you can usually take out another player in the first 15 seconds so there's only three nerds to worry about instead of a potential four stack
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Jun 24, 2020 16:57
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It's insane how many of you I've seen whining in the thread and/or the discord for literal months about how bad this game is. Goddrat. Been playing since February and this game has improved a ridiculous amount since then. It's far and away the best shooter and the best multiplayer shooter I've ever touched, by far. Papa Nikita doing dumb poo poo is just part of the fun at this point...well, most of the time. ChesterJT posted:You don't have much of an imagination. If I recall correctly offline grouped raids have been planned for a while. As is arenas. I remember reading that Nikita wanted to make a portion of this game more competitive focused. Which, to me, sounds like absolute dogshit. But some folks are into that sort of thing I guess.
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finally, i can complete my factory quests without living in complete fear. this game has changed and it's more gamey now and has a mosin that punches through everyone, it's great.
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