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MockingQuantum posted:wait is this real? Oh yes.
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Million Ghosts posted:oh it's very real  Thank you for saving me from having to google that. Related, I started Ryza and it's my first Atelier game, so far I'm enjoying it and thankfully nobody (yet) has had a horrendously cringeworthy name
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Jun 27, 2020 01:58
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MockingQuantum posted:wait is this real? It is absolutely real. The character was named Esty Erhard in the Japanese version and Esty Dee in the English version. The height of comedy. And thank you. It is awesome.
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Jun 27, 2020 01:58
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Million Ghosts posted:oh it's very real gently caress.
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MockingQuantum posted:
Thankfully NISA didn't translate anything past the Arland games (except maybe Ayesha? If so they held back from dumb jokes.) The post-NISA games tend to have some translation issues but usually nothing that glaring.
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Jun 27, 2020 02:03
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man brigandine is basically ripped out of a wormhole from 1998. there's a little bit more story to speak of than the original and the translation is uh, well it's mildly better? it seems like it's made by some of the people who made the original. the controls are okay, it's kind of easy to skip someone's turn if you are hitting buttons quickly and it's sort of obnoxious not being able to access a master list of your rune knights / having to go find them individually castle by castle if you want to do anything with them, but it's still a little better than the old game. monsters can wear equipment now which is cool, and you can send people on questing for exp so it's a little easier to bring up the babby knights and characters recruited through questing. my beloved g. scorpions are no more but for the most part they've brought back most of the original units. mandrakes, lizardmen and centaurs seem to be a little less OP now than they used to be. i don't know how much i could recommend it to someone who never played the first game but if you want more of that in 2020 definitely pick it up, i've been having a blast.
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i played metal max 3 long enough to recruit the dog, but i can't stand the excessively slow and frequent battles. the jank is too much for me.
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The biggest "issue" with the modern games is lack of a dub Theres also usually one or two places where it's obvious that the person translating the mechanical effects had no idea what things actually did and was just hoping for the best but I think that's par for the course outside of AAA games
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Jun 27, 2020 02:15
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MockingQuantum posted:
In my quest for relatively chill, relatively short JRPGs, Ryza came up (26 hour main story/40 hours with side quests per HLTB), but I was annoyed it didn't go on sale in this Steam sale. Kind of surprised but I guess it's only 3 months old, just figured it'd at least get a lil 10% off or something. Thanks for the info about the rest of Trails, I think I'll keep going in that series hearing that later games aren't nearly so weird about this.
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Jun 27, 2020 02:19
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They've got to announce the next atelier soon unless covid completely hosed up their schedule, and I'm sure Ryza will go on sale more often when it's not the most recent game
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rabidsquid posted:man brigandine is basically ripped out of a wormhole from 1998. there's a little bit more story to speak of than the original and the translation is uh, well it's mildly better? it seems like it's made by some of the people who made the original. the controls are okay, it's kind of easy to skip someone's turn if you are hitting buttons quickly and it's sort of obnoxious not being able to access a master list of your rune knights / having to go find them individually castle by castle if you want to do anything with them, but it's still a little better than the old game. monsters can wear equipment now which is cool, and you can send people on questing for exp so it's a little easier to bring up the babby knights and characters recruited through questing. my beloved g. scorpions are no more but for the most part they've brought back most of the original units. mandrakes, lizardmen and centaurs seem to be a little less OP now than they used to be. Honestly my biggest problem with it was that the gameplay boiled down to "Make a team of three really strong people, using most of your extra knights to farm OP equipment. win" most of the time.
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The Black Stones posted:Can NISA stop publishing things other companies put out and ruining them with their poo poo translations? I’m playing “Utawarerumono: Prelude to the Fallen” after playing the “Mask of” games and the quality went to hell. The main character says “gently caress” in his internal monologue at one point which doesn’t match his character at all, and then shortly afterward in a comedic scene a character falls into a manure pit but Hakuowlo calls it the villages “Diarrhea Swamp” diarrhea swamp is a sss-rank translation
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Jun 27, 2020 02:39
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The White Dragon posted:diarrhea swamp is a sss-rank translation It's a rank translation, that's for sure
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cheetah7071 posted:The biggest "issue" with the modern games is lack of a dub Yeah I do miss those too but the alternative is KT using the DW9 dub cast and...
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Jun 27, 2020 02:44
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ok it's a dreadful translation but it's a sss-rank phrase and this is NISA? what happened to them? i guess the biggest game of theirs to me is Disgaea 1, and that had a fantastic translation. did the company change hands or something?
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cheetah7071 posted:They've got to announce the next atelier soon unless covid completely hosed up their schedule, and I'm sure Ryza will go on sale more often when it's not the most recent game I think Fairy Tale hosed up their schedule more than anything.
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Jun 27, 2020 02:46
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Esty D. would be kinda funny for, like, an extra who only shows up for one text box but for a character with any sort of actual importance it's a disaster.
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Jun 27, 2020 02:47
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it would be a funny translation if you were translating dialog spoken by someone who has a notably trashy way of speakingThe White Dragon posted:ok it's a dreadful translation but it's a sss-rank phrase nisa did not translate disgaea 1, atlus did the disgaea games are still some of their better translations but there are still some absolutely bizarre tl bugs and mistranslations in the later games because nisa has been an awful tl company since their formation. their only saving grace is that their tls are accurate enough that they're sort of readable but like. there's a reason there's a fan retranslation for ar tonelico 2 i've heard trails of cold steel 3 and ys 8 are better than others but cold steel 3 had different lead staff that they contracted and ys 8... did not start out better. The Colonel fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Jun 27, 2020 |
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Esty is the best character in atelier rorona
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The White Dragon posted:ok it's a dreadful translation but it's a sss-rank phrase NISA's translations have always had issues but they have pretty much been downhill for the most part. They are the company who had to, multiple times, apologize for releasing games that literally crashed because of their screwups. They also keep getting translations for games done better by other companies and make them worse.
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my favorite dumb translation error in a nis srpg tled by nisa is how the female protag in soul nomad is the canon one, but the tl uses male pronouns in a few scenes, because nisa did not consider the fact that the player might be using the female protag the rest of the tl is one of their better ones but that bit is like. come on
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cheetah7071 posted:The biggest "issue" with the modern games is lack of a dub my favorite bad translation of mechanical effects in a game is in... grandia, I think? where when it got translated into German, some localizer was not given sufficient info so when a character misses an attack, it says "fraulein"
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i like how in danganronpa v3 nisa decided to arbitrarily make one of the characters talk like tarzan/a caveman
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The White Dragon posted:ok it's a dreadful translation but it's a sss-rank phrase As mentioned Atlus did Disgaea 1 and Atlus also did the Utawarerumono games until this one and boy was it obvious that things changed. I don’t hate on NISA as much as some, but after playing all the Utawarerumono games fairly recently the drop in quality was noticeable. I had recently played Disaster Report 4 and didn’t notice anything super glaring bad but i don’t have any comparisons.
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Diarrhea Swamp seems like a good translation honestly, it's funny and it's not like the manure pit is going to be the site of a major massacre later down the line probably
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dmboogie posted:i like how in danganronpa v3 nisa decided to arbitrarily make one of the characters talk like tarzan/a caveman i like when a porn game translator decided to look at the opening of danganronpa 1 and compare the nisa tl and the jp script and somehow the nisa script just consistently is like. slightly off enough that it drastically alters the meaning and pace of the dialog into something that just flows worse and is less funny
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Well I feel dumb, earlier in the week I bought the new Ys game that went up on PS4 a couple of weeks ago. I was about 10 hrs in and got to a boss and got stuck. My options were title screen, load, and retry. At that point I realized I never saved the game and thought the checkpoint monoliths were handing that. I wasn't really enjoying it as much as the other Ys games so the will to redo all that again sucks 
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ImpAtom posted:NISA's translations have always had issues but they have pretty much been downhill for the most part. They are the company who had to, multiple times, apologize for releasing games that literally crashed because of their screwups.
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klapman posted:Diarrhea Swamp seems like a good translation honestly, it's funny and it's not like the manure pit is going to be the site of a major massacre later down the line A joke works when the audience gets it. My immediate reaction was “wait, what the hell did he fall into?” I figured it out right away, but it’s a bad translation because it’s the scene that’s supposed to be funny, the line itself isn’t supposed to be the joke. For a good translation just look at XSeed’s translation of Akiba’s trip. Tons of wordplay, and the translation added to the scenes. That’s what you want.
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Remember when nisa made a boss guaranteed crash on turn 3 because there was a typo in the name of the font used to display the attack name
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Is this the right thread to mention that Hylics 2 just came out? https://youtu.be/-yo8I1-kZ6U duck.exe fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jun 27, 2020 |
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Is NISA the new Working Designs?
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Crowetron posted:Is NISA the new Working Designs? No, because I at least believe NISA is more incompetence than malice.
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END ME SCOOB posted:No, because I at least believe NISA is more incompetence than malice. This
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END ME SCOOB posted:No, because I at least believe NISA is more incompetence than malice. Working Designs was pretty incompetent too, though. Remember the time they couldn't figure out how to fit everything into Lunar Eternal Blue on the PSX, so they downsampled all the audio in the game from stereo to mono and tried to hide it by "remastering" the audio with reverb and other effects? Also, their projected release dates always got pushed back months into years.
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Crowetron posted:Is NISA the new Working Designs? NISA's issue is more a combination of shoestring budgets and bad translations than WD's more active "We're going to make these games suck more actively" aside from the occasional Esty Dee. That said they still are pretty poo poo.
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Oh, okay. I haven't played any of the NISA games you guys were talking about and was trying to figure out how bad we were talking for the translations. So not as bad as I was thinking. "Diarrhea Swamp" kinda makes me laugh by itself, but its also basically a Borderlands joke.
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Crowetron posted:Oh, okay. I haven't played any of the NISA games you guys were talking about and was trying to figure out how bad we were talking for the translations. So not as bad as I was thinking. Oh, don't get me wrong. They have some really, really, really bad stuff.  (The Japanese for this is "searching for a husband." Forgive the LP icon, just grabbed the first screenshot I could find.)
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Even with the voice lines, "Motherly" would have worked too. And yet.
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ImpAtom posted:Oh, don't get me wrong. They have some really, really, really bad stuff. Huh
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