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As a fan of both organisational gently caress ups and endless chaos, I must say that this is truly excellent
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 13:29 |
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I'm going to enjoy it up until Edmonton gets it. You all know Edmonton is getting it.
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 13:57 |
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The NHL is so stupid.
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:13 |
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Crazy that if San Jose hadn’t re-signed Evander Kane then Ottawa would have picked 29th last year and San Jose would be grabbing Stutzle/Byfield at the draft
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:30 |
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if I'm understanding correctly, these are the three scenarios on the table for Vancouver: A - Canucks win their play-in round, advance to playoffs, surrender this year's pick to NJ (somewhere between 17-31st OA depending on how far Canucks advance) B - Canucks lose play-in round, keep this year's pick, get 12.5% chance at 1st overall, otherwise picking somewhere between 9th-13th if they lose lottery, surrender 2021 pick to NJ C - Season is cancelled and there are no playoffs, with final rankings based on in-conference win% Canucks surrender this year's 17th OA pick to NJ Correct me if I'm wrong CAS goldrush fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jun 27, 2020 |
# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:31 |
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lol detroit and lol at some of yall goin from "woo let chaos reign" to "no, not like that"
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:36 |
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So... how good is Quinton Byfield?
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:39 |
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ThinkTank posted:The "ah gently caress" in his voice is palpable. Technically their best odds would have been not to have this play in bullshit since they would have won #1 overall lmao
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:46 |
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stab posted:Technically their best odds would have been not to have this play in bullshit since they would have won #1 overall lmao That was Winnipeg's spot not Vancouver's. goldrush posted:if I'm understanding correctly, these are the three scenarios on the table for Vancouver: Spot on.
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:55 |
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Mr. Kite posted:So... how good is Quinton Byfield? Quite good. People keep making Joe Thornton comparisons because he's 6'4" 200lbs at age 17 and is a pass first guy, but I see a lot of Jamie Benn and Gabe Landeskog. He's for sure a centre at the NHL level and the type of guy you build around. People talk about his skating like it's noteworthy, but it doesn't stand out to me as especially great he's just quicker than average for a guy his size. His shot is fine but he'll likely never be a thirty goal guy. He's a great passer and has above average positoining. He's not an outmuscle defenders power forward, but he's strong and hard to knock off the puck. More a rush guy than a cycler but the OHL is much more that sorta style so he might benefit from learning to slow it down in the offensive zone in the pros. He has the talent and mind to do that, so it won't likely be much of an issue. I'd say you're looking at a 70-85 point top line centre at his peak. Honestly, he's essentially a direct successor to Kopitar in all facets of his game.
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:02 |
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I like it. Byfield, Vilardi, Turcotte is a good start to build around down the middle.
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:16 |
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Mr. Kite posted:I like it. Byfield, Vilardi, Turcotte is a good start to build around down the middle. Don't forget Madden as well. That's a championship backbone if I've ever seen one and I hate it. The fact that the Kings can have prospects like Arthur Kaliyev and Akil Thomas not even crack their top 5 is certifiably infuriating.
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:22 |
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ThinkTank posted:Quite good. People keep making Joe Thornton comparisons because he's 6'4" 200lbs at age 17 and is a pass first guy, but I see a lot of Jamie Benn and Gabe Landeskog. He's for sure a centre at the NHL level and the type of guy you build around. People talk about his skating like it's noteworthy, but it doesn't stand out to me as especially great he's just quicker than average for a guy his size. His shot is fine but he'll likely never be a thirty goal guy. He's a great passer and has above average positoining. He's not an outmuscle defenders power forward, but he's strong and hard to knock off the puck. More a rush guy than a cycler but the OHL is much more that sorta style so he might benefit from learning to slow it down in the offensive zone in the pros. He has the talent and mind to do that, so it won't likely be much of an issue. I'd say you're looking at a 70-85 point top line centre at his peak. Now please say something nice about Tim Stützle
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:36 |
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AsInHowe posted:This was done to put Montreal, Chicago, and the NY Rangers in the "playoffs". If your team loses that play-in round, you aren't technically a playoff team and would be in the lottery. Was that the actual logic behind the 24 team play-in thing?
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 19:25 |
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Mr. Kite posted:I like it. Byfield, Vilardi, Turcotte is a good start to build around down the middle. And the bonus is the Kings kept enough of the good vets to shape and mentor their NHL abilities so the Kings aren’t in a situation where the kids are given the keys to the car without any guidance. See: Edmonton (2009 - 2017). Byfield and Stutzle is a tough decision but I think you have to go BPA (Byfield is also 17!) and having an overload at center depth like the Kings make some really good prospects (Kupari, Thomas, Vilardi!) somewhat expendable if the Kings down the road need to trade for a blue-chip prospect at wing. MaoistBanker fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jun 27, 2020 |
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zegermans posted:Was that the actual logic behind the 24 team play-in thing? Yes. Some teams were still in the running, and would never have accepted being dropped when a few wins would have them qualifying.
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 19:37 |
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heeheex2 posted:lmfao wtf Ron MacLean is stuck in hell, Pierre Dorion was a hologram all along, and someone replaced our Elliotte Friedman with his alternative-dimension hardcore prepper version
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 19:39 |
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The Dirty Burger posted:Now please say something nice about Tim Stützle He's in a European league and therefore I have never seen him play. Presumably he's pretty good.
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 19:44 |
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DJExile posted:and lol at some of yall goin from "woo let chaos reign" to "no, not like that" seriously, this is funny as hell. if anything they should make the draft dumber in the future
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 21:47 |
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Did Detroit tank? They seem like they were a bad team trending downwards for years and are now just feeling the effects of having no top picks for years. I don't think they even sold anyone off. Like, who even on this team in the past 2-3 years was worth anything? Larkin is the only non-prospect who anyone would spend a lot to get. Looking over their roster, there is a ton of players I recognize, but if I was asked to name players off of their team, I'd be hard pressed to name 3. e: Just always seems that teams are no longer able to be bad. They are always accused of tanking if they are really bad. Twin Cinema fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jun 27, 2020 |
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Hall of Famer Ken Holland signed Justin Abdelkader and Frans Nielsen to their current contracts. Does that answer your question?
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Twin Cinema posted:Did Detroit tank? They seem like they were a bad team trending downwards for years and are now just feeling the effects of having no top picks for years. I don't think they even sold anyone off. Like, who even on this team in the past 2-3 years was worth anything? Larkin is the only non-prospect who anyone would spend a lot to get. What I dont get is people will rightly denigrate teams that chase for too long after their window has clearly closed but then when they actually start to rebuild they are "tanking".
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# ? Jun 27, 2020 23:58 |
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Misanthrope posted:I'm going to enjoy it up until Edmonton gets it. Literally mine and probably most people's first assumption.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 00:06 |
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eXXon posted:Hall of Famer Ken Holland signed Justin Abdelkader and Frans Nielsen to their current contracts. Does that answer your question? When you have the chance to build your core around those two guys, you just have to jump on it.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 00:13 |
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Ken Holland posted:We purposely built the team wrong, as a joke
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 00:13 |
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clean ayers act posted:What I dont get is people will rightly denigrate teams that chase for too long after their window has clearly closed but then when they actually start to rebuild they are "tanking". Detroit isn’t rebuilding though. They’re not tanking either, they’re just terrible.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 00:20 |
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I personally don't think Detroit was tanking, but I think it might actually be a more flattering to say they did rather than admit that they iced a team worse than the 2013-2015 Buffalo Sabres through incompetence alone.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 00:49 |
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Aphrodite posted:Detroit isn’t rebuilding though. I mean in the last 2 years they've traded away basically every asset that has value except for their young guys. Tatar, Nyquist Athanasiou, Mrazek, Green. I'm not sure how that isn't a rebuild clean ayers act fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Jun 28, 2020 |
# ? Jun 28, 2020 00:50 |
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double post
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 00:52 |
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Oh man seeing the Wings get hosed like this is absolutely beautiful. Too bad that means the Hawks are gonna get 1OA
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 01:37 |
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is Datsyuk still
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 01:58 |
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Detroit's basically finishing off the teardown portion before the rebuild. I don't know a lot about their prospect pool but even if they did get the 1st overall pick they were going to move from 31st best team up to like 29. Detroit is a tire fire right now and will be for a while.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 02:11 |
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When did "first overall" become 1OA? Until I figured it out, I kept thinking you guys were saying ten-A.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 03:07 |
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Detroit is absolutely going to make Edmonton look competent over the next half-decade. Which is loving something.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 03:15 |
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https://twitter.com/UKCBJFans/status/1276834281315319809 Come to Butthead.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 04:21 |
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Drunk Canuck posted:Detroit is absolutely going to make Edmonton look competent over the next half-decade. Which is loving something. The Wings have a strategy and plan, things will improve from here on out. It's really staggering just how little Ken Holland did.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 04:21 |
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I'm pretty curious to see how Stevie does the next few years. He's got a good resume with Tampa, they were lousy when he got there. Going off the board for Seider seemed weird last year, but sounds like he's shaping up to be a great prospect.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 04:32 |
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As much as I liked chaos I don't like that I can't just root against anyone I don't like in the playins.
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# ? Jun 28, 2020 04:40 |
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fisting by many posted:As much as I liked chaos I don't like that I can't just root against anyone I don't like in the playins. Luckily, my team is below the line so I can root for the playins never even happening.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1276675990861815808
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