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The best thing about Firewire is the ability to just dump the entire device's memory including all its secrets since DMA is done on the hardware level  …It doesn't work on everything since spoilsports put in mitigations, but hey, extracting a domain admin's tgt by connecting a malicious device while they are on their lunch break is where the fun starts.
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firewire had some hilariously dumb problems like, the 6pin connector carries 30v 1.5a of power (enough to power a 3.5" hdd). hotplug that thing like you would with usb and theres a decent chance youve fried the interface chip. many devices just used the 4pin connector which doesnt carry power thankfully that wasnt the worst thing though. there were a bunch of different brands of firewire chipsets and some software would only work right with certain ones. i remember avid being particularly rough, like you had to have a specific intel build, or else youd get random mysterious crashes. many mainboards & laptops had onboard firewire with some cheapass via chipset, so you had to buy express card or pci firewire adapters even though you had a firewire port already oh, also the name firewire was an apple trademark and sony registered i.link so everyone else had to call their stuff "iee1394". three very different names for one and the same thing because marketing Aix has a new favorite as of 08:34 on Jun 29, 2020 |
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Jun 29, 2020 08:32
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twistedmentat posted:It always cracks me up when people say "but this is .2 MS faster than the other version!" becuase unless you're doing massive data transfers or rendering for hours, no one needs that. If you don't do massive data transfers I don't know what you're even using your computer for.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:If you don't do massive data transfers I don't know what you're even using your computer for. I don't need a computer to do massive dumps.
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Aix posted:that wasnt the worst thing though. there were a bunch of different brands of firewire chipsets and some software would only work right with certain ones. i remember avid being particularly rough, like you had to have a specific intel build, or else youd get random mysterious crashes. many mainboards & laptops had onboard firewire with some cheapass via chipset, so you had to buy express card or pci firewire adapters even though you had a firewire port already This pissed me off to no end. I thought I had a firewire compatible laptop I could use to record from my firewire mixer interface, but oops! only specific Texas Instruments chipsets are good enough for doing recordings, everyone else gets choppy recordings with random crackles because their chipset cannot handle the datastream properly!
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The immunofluorescence microscope at work has some $Texas greyscale FireWire camera attached to it, and finding a controller card that actually worked when the supplied one died was surprisingly iffy. (Also, Zeiss camera prices. At least it does take pretty pictures.)
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Antigravitas posted:The best thing about Firewire is the ability to just dump the entire device's memory including all its secrets since DMA is done on the hardware level I have a fairly modern PC case, and it came with a firewire port lol  only firewire device I ever owned was a hand me down gen 1 ipod...that thing was such dogshit lol.
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Zenostein posted:
You can use wifi, but also ethernet and target disk mode, which is still a thing but now works with USB and thunderbolt.
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Firewire also had some use in early HDTV stuff. Specifically DVHS, which could record HD video to 1/2 VHS style tapes (but they were specially formatted/high quality) use it. But DVHS recorders could only record HDTV video from the Firewire port. Some cable boxes had firewire for this reason, but there was a copy protection flag that could prevent the cable box from outputting the video stream on the firewire port, if the content provider or cable company wanted. Somethings could also be marked as "Copy once" so that you could record something, but your player would refuse to output the video stream over the firewire so no losses copies could be made of it. I remember messing around with the firewire output on my cable box and was able to get it to output to the firewire port on my PC using some virtual tape deck app. But it was pretty cumbersome very unreliable.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:If you don't do massive data transfers I don't know what you're even using your computer for. I don't have that much porn.
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Moo the cow posted:I absolutely believe that there are applications that still require a modem attached. Correct! A lot of legacy industrial control systems still use modems to communicate with remote outstations. Those are slowly being replaced with 4G cell modems instead. (or proprietary radio interfaces)
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Jun 29, 2020 21:44
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twistedmentat posted:I don't have that much porn. I think you're doing this Internet thing wrong
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TotalLossBrain posted:I think you're doing this Internet thing wrong I counter that they are internetting correctly as they are constantly streaming, not storing offline.
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Shifty Nipples posted:At that time the most likely places to find an encyclopedia on CD and a computer with a CD drive were schools and libraries so it makes sense to have a system like that when so many people will handle the CDs. We had some kind of SCSI CD tower of power at my school attached to a NetWare server to share the CDs to network attached PCs without anyone having to touch the CDs at all. Worked surprisingly well! (Probably didn't do anything except the file data, as I don't think anything like Redbook audio or whatever would have any way of getting handled) We also had waaay too many PCs on a 10-Base-2 network and performance did indeed nose-dive when a whole room of netbooting PCs running DOS and Windows 3.1 were used at once against that same NetWare server. That network and NetWare worked amazingly well for years other than that room. I still have nostalgia for DOS and NetWare because of helping to run that setup for a while at school 
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My sophomore year I got banned from the server room. The network was down, but we wanted some Doom deathmatch, so I went and punched a handful of DOS commands into the Netware 4 terminal to see if the server was up. My friend with all the computer stuff to this day still occasionally gives me poo poo over it - not only did he know Netware 4 (and know that DOS commands were useless on the server terminal), unlike me, but he also knew "the server is down" was actually probably a dead terminator.
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LifeSunDeath posted:I have a fairly modern PC case, and it came with a firewire port lol Fairly modern in the sense of this thread or the real world? That case looks straight out of 2004. (That’s not a bad thing)
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Jul 4, 2020 06:08
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LifeSunDeath posted:I have a fairly modern PC case, and it came with a firewire port lol thats a laundry machine
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My last motherboard didn't come with a Firewire header, so I guess that's on the way out if not already.
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Shibawanko posted:thats a laundry machine Where have you seen a laundry machine with multiple USB ports... and why?
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Kwyndig posted:Where have you seen a laundry machine with multiple USB ports... and why? To answer them in order: Samsung, and Samsung.
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Don Gato posted:To answer them in order: Samsung, and Samsung. Their top loaders due to a history of fires now have an in-built fire suppression system. (This is the joke from all washer salesmen. The machines have a pretty nifty soaking tub in the top with a fountain to fill it) But seriously, do NOT buy any Samsung home appliance, especially a washing machine or refrigerator. The only bonus is the part that blows up with actually have the REAL part number on it.
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LifeSunDeath posted:only firewire device I ever owned was a hand me down gen 1 ipod...that thing was such dogshit lol. hah I have a Gen1 iPod, I keep it in my 2000 Jaguar, hooked up with a cassette adapter. Whenever the 2000-2010 Radwood equivalent starts up (litwood?) I'll be ready to go. edit: obsolete and failed technology is a British engineered CANBUS network in a car developed in the mid 1990s on a chassis developed in the 1970s with an engine filled with plastic timing hardware sarcastx has a new favorite as of 14:07 on Jul 4, 2020 |
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Humphreys posted:Their top loaders due to a history of fires now have an in-built fire suppression system. I agree with this. My parents had a Samsung washer and it just randomly died for no reason. They have a Samsung refrigerator and it has an amazing feature where the doors just barely stay open. Like there is purposefully a little catch in the door mechanism that prevents the door from closing on it's own and you have to push it all the way in your own. Truly stupid.
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Cojawfee posted:I agree with this. My parents had a Samsung washer and it just randomly died for no reason. They have a Samsung refrigerator and it has an amazing feature where the doors just barely stay open. Like there is purposefully a little catch in the door mechanism that prevents the door from closing on it's own and you have to push it all the way in your own. Truly stupid. For clarifcation I also used to service their gear. I still own Samsung tablets and phones, and a few monitors I think. But serious I swear there is code in all insurance policy code that adds an extra percentage of risk due to the owner having Samsung gear....Meanwhile they also make tanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Afpey7Eldo
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Humphreys posted:Their top loaders due to a history of fires now have an in-built fire suppression system. Samsung washing machines are reliable and great. I bought one because it was the only brand that had a free 10-year guarantee. Possibly they make inferior product to ship to markets without consumer protections.
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Humphreys posted:I still own Samsung tablets and phones, and a few monitors I think. I've had some quite angry calls with some of the most senior engineers working on Samsung's phone/tablet software AND I work with a guy who used to do battery QA for them (weird how their tablets started going on fire after they axed their battery QA department right?) and I would strongly recommend against that.
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I actually used to work for Samsung's semiconductor division. QA is... Let's say subordinate to production volume and sales.
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They just updated the bundle-in music app on my phone to include ads 
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Now I'm pissed off I bought a Samsung fridge and TV at the end of last year At least I live in a country with a sensible consumer law, I guess.
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Weatherman posted:Now I'm pissed off I bought a Samsung fridge and TV at the end of last year I recently bought a Samsung TV. The adventure begins, I guess.
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Oh god I just filled my kitchen with Samsung stuff even though I’d never buy a Samsung TV, as that’s the only category I understand. Oops. Stove does kick rear end tho.
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I have Samsung TV and phone and never had an issue with either. Hell the TV was a floor model and it's over a decade old and it still works perfectly. So your mileage may vary.
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I had to buy a new refrigerator recently. I asked the repair guy looking at my old fridge if he had any preferred brands or recommendations, and all he said was "Don't get a Samsung."
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Jul 4, 2020 21:46
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Samsung imported all their designs from the megaman universe where stoves spit fire if they have a virus. Sad.
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I'm about 100% certain the Samsung-hate is generally just racism.
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Have had a Samsung TV which worked great for many years. Samsung phones, same. But... washing machines; had two Samsungs in a row, both needed multiple repairs within the warranty period. Components failing and needing replacement. Can't have been profitable for the company. Edit: actually we got the second one as a replacement for the first one because it had gone poof too many times within the warranty period. Then that one was a piece of poo poo too. Groke has a new favorite as of 22:12 on Jul 4, 2020 |
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Humphreys posted:For clarifcation I also used to service their gear. I still own Samsung tablets and phones, and a few monitors I think. But serious I swear there is code in all insurance policy code that adds an extra percentage of risk due to the owner having Samsung gear....Meanwhile they also make tanks. They don't make artillery anymore. They sold that division, their CCTV division and some of their chemical production stuff to Hanwha.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:I'm about 100% certain the Samsung-hate is generally just racism. If people aren't weary of LG it's not racism.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:I'm about 100% certain the Samsung-hate is generally just racism. Or the fact that Samsung is the largest and most visible chaebol in the world right now and it does have a lot of shady business practices and questionable QC. Also an obsession for putting wifi and USB in regular appliances.
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