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I was watching some of Doink's early run and I got to wondering how many gimmicks there have been where the person comes off like a total goof but is a killer in the ring. Kurt Angle at times and later day Mick Foley sort of fit the bill, but their goofiness was more earnest rather than being a way of playing mind games. I feel like there has to be more.
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Zombie Lemur posted:I was watching some of Doink's early run and I got to wondering how many gimmicks there have been where the person comes off like a total goof but is a killer in the ring. You could maybe put Orange Cassidy in this? Less "goof" than "slacker" but they certainly push him as deadly when he tries.
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Nystral posted:Was One Man Gang ever outed as a Nazi? A simple google search would solve this conundrum - the skull and crossbones on OMG's gear have a different design from the Totenkopf symbol. They're completely different. Here's the Totenkopf symbol Here's OMG's skull symbol
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Zombie Lemur posted:I was watching some of Doink's early run and I got to wondering how many gimmicks there have been where the person comes off like a total goof but is a killer in the ring. Big Show would sometimes be this kind of face and I always thought that worked best for him, especially if they were never going to book him correctly as a monster heel.
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# ? Jun 23, 2020 11:52 |
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Zombie Lemur posted:I was watching some of Doink's early run and I got to wondering how many gimmicks there have been where the person comes off like a total goof but is a killer in the ring.
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# ? Jun 23, 2020 13:51 |
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Zombie Lemur posted:I was watching some of Doink's early run and I got to wondering how many gimmicks there have been where the person comes off like a total goof but is a killer in the ring. Eugene I guess?
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# ? Jun 23, 2020 14:20 |
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It's wrapped up in some bad-to-terrible homophobic trappings, but "Exotic" Adrian Street (and for maybe three weeks, Rico Constantino) did the gimmick where they were sort of flouncey sissies up until the bell rang and then would immediately just start viciously clubbering. It's not exactly the same thing, but similar?
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# ? Jun 23, 2020 16:13 |
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They also did it for like 2 weeks with Nikki Cross when she started teaming with Alexa. She was the character she is now backstage and on the way to the ring, then she'd turn into Sanity Nikki until the match was over.
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Lamuella posted:You could maybe put Orange Cassidy in this? Less "goof" than "slacker" but they certainly push him as deadly when he tries. OC fits perfectly, I can't believe I didn't think of him. Von Linus posted:Eugene I guess? I don't think Eugene or Festus work because they were kind of portrayed as wrestling savants who had actual mental disabilities.
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# ? Jun 23, 2020 20:10 |
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To a certain extent Emma was like this in NXT? The main roster of course hosed it up but the original idea was "She's a goofy space cadet but also an amazing wrestler."
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Maxwell Lord posted:To a certain extent Emma was like this in NXT? The main roster of course hosed it up but the original idea was "She's a goofy space cadet but also an amazing wrestler." I always thought the idea was that she sucked but drat it shes trying her best and slowly getting better? A variant on QT Marshall
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# ? Jun 23, 2020 21:54 |
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The start of Tajiris run in the WWE might count? He was essentially Regals comedy manservent, then went into the ring and tajiri'd the gently caress out of some poor bastard. Google tells me it was Crash Holly. If I'm honest what I mainly remember is Regals fantastic facial expressions as Regal realised that the man he'd been heaping with abuse was in fact a viciously competent wrestler.
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# ? Jun 23, 2020 22:17 |
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SiKboy posted:The start of Tajiris run in the WWE might count? He was essentially Regals comedy manservent, then went into the ring and tajiri'd the gently caress out of some poor bastard. Google tells me it was Crash Holly. If I'm honest what I mainly remember is Regals fantastic facial expressions as Regal realised that the man he'd been heaping with abuse was in fact a viciously competent wrestler. https://i.imgur.com/gkj507r.mp4
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# ? Jun 23, 2020 22:42 |
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Thats the good stuff!
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# ? Jun 23, 2020 22:45 |
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Are there any wrestling themes that you've only recently learned are inspired by or ripped off from real tracks? Not just obvious clones likr Self High Five/Smells Like Teen Spirit but less noticeable. I didn't realize it recently, but will bring it up at any opportunity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rocnz2Gmxk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXKg0sNTKXE Zombie Lemur posted:I was watching some of Doink's early run and I got to wondering how many gimmicks there have been where the person comes off like a total goof but is a killer in the ring. this was conceptually what I liked about Golddust like, he wore a wig and a robe and smelled the air and was gay panic taken to a hollywood wacko extreme, but then also he was 6'6" and the second he saw an opportunity he would shut it off and just mercilessly beat the poo poo out of you
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SiKboy posted:The start of Tajiris run in the WWE might count? He was essentially Regals comedy manservent, then went into the ring and tajiri'd the gently caress out of some poor bastard. Google tells me it was Crash Holly. If I'm honest what I mainly remember is Regals fantastic facial expressions as Regal realised that the man he'd been heaping with abuse was in fact a viciously competent wrestler. Lunatic Sledge posted:
These are two good ones. I guess I kind of glossed over Tajiri because I remembered him kicking people's heads off in ECW, so when he got to WWE I was just "wait for it...wait for it..."
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# ? Jun 24, 2020 00:06 |
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What's the wrestling discord again? Just in case something happens to the forums.
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anakha posted:What's the wrestling discord again? Just in case something happens to the forums. It’s linked in the last page of the rules thread
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anakha posted:What's the wrestling discord again? Just in case something happens to the forums. https://discord.com/channels/271775045947359232/271775045947359232
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# ? Jun 24, 2020 15:21 |
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So the magic of pro-wrestling is that a lot of it looks worse than it actually is but I've always been bad at telling what is bad and what just looks bad. How bad were Austin's chairshots to Lita? Apparently even teh dirt sheets at the time were going off about how Austin went too far. The thing people always get upset about with chairs is hitting somebody in the head and I don't think that happened here. Are those shots where they use the folded chair and just ram the edge of it down into you worked at all?
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# ? Jun 30, 2020 03:38 |
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This may be too big a question, but I appreciate any help I can get. Is there a way to watch early ROH, as in before 2007? I was super interested in trying to follow everything back then when I was in HS but could only get my hands on the occasional match wmv through Kazaa or whatever. Does the Honor Club thing have old old stuff?
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# ? Jun 30, 2020 03:43 |
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I think part of the trick with chairs besides head shots is like what part of the chair. Like if you hit them on the seat where it folds in that means you got some give. If you do it the reverse or on the back then I imagine its way more painful. But like also, you can obviously just hit someone soft or hit someone hard. Its no different than like the difference between Shane McMahon's strikes and Low-Ki's.
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Are there any wrestling themes that you've only recently learned are inspired by or ripped off from real tracks? Not just obvious clones likr Self High Five/Smells Like Teen Spirit but less noticeable. My favorite is that Kronik's entrance music is a blatant ripoff of "Love Dump" by Static-X, a song about scat fetishists. It's not quite what you're looking for because it's so obvious, but given the subject matter and relative obscurity, I think it belongs. Kronik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW5SWd28BUo Love Dump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJsQEaJUzIQ
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davidbix posted:My favorite is that Kronik's entrance music is a blatant ripoff of "Love Dump" by Static-X, a song about scat fetishists. It's not quite what you're looking for because it's so obvious, but given the subject matter and relative obscurity, I think it belongs.
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NikkolasKing posted:So the magic of pro-wrestling is that a lot of it looks worse than it actually is but I've always been bad at telling what is bad and what just looks bad. I assume we are talking about these chairshots from 2001. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DySPltwSLDM I think it's because it makes Stone Cold look way more sadistic than they were trying to get at (this was during the first month of Austin's heel turn when they were trying hard to sell it). I mean, one can watch the video and take of it what you will. I think they went too far by having Austin strike her while she's over Matt Hardy's body. This is just a bad time in WWF's history where they felt the need to build heel heat by having male wrestlers attack women (or have a popular face attack an unpopular heel woman to build their popularity). Justin Godscock fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Jun 30, 2020 |
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also led to this, which was just terrible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A58FjkAf26w
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Jesus H. Christ posted:This may be too big a question, but I appreciate any help I can get. Is there a way to watch early ROH, as in before 2007? I was super interested in trying to follow everything back then when I was in HS but could only get my hands on the occasional match wmv through Kazaa or whatever. Does the Honor Club thing have old old stuff?
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STAC Goat posted:I think part of the trick with chairs besides head shots is like what part of the chair. Like if you hit them on the seat where it folds in that means you got some give. If you do it the reverse or on the back then I imagine its way more painful.
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# ? Jun 30, 2020 12:49 |
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WWE isn't ready for Shane's Yellow Bamboo technique.
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Justin Godscock posted:I think it's because it makes Stone Cold look way more sadistic than they were trying to get at (this was during the first month of Austin's heel turn when they were trying hard to sell it). In hindsight I loved Austin as a heel in 2001, but the first few months of it were indeed really dodgy I think. Austin is a great performer and ultimately made a lot of it work later on, but at the same time it was always going to be a commercial disaster because most people were just not interested in booing him. They got desperate in trying to make it happen, but with The Rock gone they were now also drastically short of top-level faces, meaning we got nonsense like his beatdown of the Hardys and Lita, and later on Michael Cole of all people, in the middle of what should've been a star-making feud for Benoit and Jericho no less. They seemed to have had no faith in Austin being able to deliver heel promos (or at least heel promos without getting cheered), so his heat apparently had to come from these highly questionable stunts. In retrospect, as much as I enjoyed heel Austin later on during the Invasion, it was a terrible idea to start things off by having him play fourth fiddle to Triple H, Vince, and Stephanie. Good thing they never did that again!!
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# ? Jun 30, 2020 14:59 |
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The original plan was much better, with Trips having turned face off the feud with Angle, but lol. Huntor the Barbarian can't ever look weak
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The strange thing is that Austin's heel turn convinced them to never turn Cena, but I think a heelish Cena would've actually been cheered.
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# ? Jun 30, 2020 15:54 |
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Zombie Lemur posted:I was watching some of Doink's early run and I got to wondering how many gimmicks there have been where the person comes off like a total goof but is a killer in the ring.
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William Regal was largely that too when he came back to WWF in late 99 or early 2000 or whenever that was
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# ? Jun 30, 2020 16:36 |
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What's Lex Luger's best WWF match?
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Low Desert Punk posted:What's Lex Luger's best WWF match? Going by star ratings, the highest-rated WWF match he was ever in was the 95 Rumble at 3.5 stars. After that, it's his Summerslam 93 countout win over Yoko at 2.75 stars. ...that's pretty loving dire.
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# ? Jul 1, 2020 02:15 |
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absolutely laughing my butt all the way off about that Kronik/Static X info above, and about that Static X song, which I just googled the lyrics for and which sent me right over the edge of the world laughter wise
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# ? Jul 1, 2020 02:26 |
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There was an account on YouTube that posted video game and wrestling themes that sounded "familiar." They took the videos down, I'm guessing because of copyright, but here's some I can remember: Finn Balor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lV2HGLt2-E Royal Blood - Out of the Black: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSdtvfBQd6c Charlotte: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zaNdV-zBmw Rooftops from COD Black Ops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE3_zb2u7fE&t=90s Johnny Gargano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrUm_O8xMA0 Sleeping with Sirens - The Bomb Dot Com 2.0 (): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z3e5otA9qY Oney Lorcan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBew7TRA5W4 Pennywise - Bro Hymn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWrGHsMtlKo CFO$ basically asked people what kind of music they like and just ripped off a song from who they said lol
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# ? Jul 1, 2020 03:31 |
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of course oney lorcan comes out to a fake Pennywise song lmao
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Alaois posted:of course oney lorcan comes out to a fake Pennywise song lmao I think he used to come out to the real one
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