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Chris James 2 posted:Tomorrow's is: feel like Oney vs Thatcher would be good because there's no stakes so wwe has no reason to mess with it
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Benne posted:Peyton Royce has always been pretty good in the ring, people have just forgotten or never saw it since she got hitched to a cringe-comedy act that's basically bad on purpose. Throw Billie Kay in the dumpster and give her a singles push. I vaguely recall thinking "Yeah I'd be good with Peyton being champ and Ember chasing her." after Asuka vacated.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:This is a 40 year old nurse and hobbyist bodybuilder who came down with covid, he spent over a month in the hospital and almost died when the Warlord can't afford his steroids
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Neodoomium posted:I also have a bunch of tattoos and the best thing about them is that they are mine and not yours Agreed.
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Not only is it Dolph Ziggler in a main event feud again, but it's the same exact "feud" he's done with people 10 times over now. Why. Even reading the words "Dolph Ziggler" just mentally exhausts me at this point.
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Golden Bee posted:It would be fine if your name was Jesse I think that was literally a joke I made at the time while I was trying to thread the needle between "I love you" and "Well, let's see how this plays out".
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Tato posted:Not only is it Dolph Ziggler in a main event feud again, but it's the same exact "feud" he's done with people 10 times over now. Watching him, as a heel, do a Rockers Wrestlemania hot tag spot to a relaxed Sasha on a random Raw mixed tag match is a microcosm of his career.
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dolph ziggler is a long term research project in reaching absolute zero
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Isn't there supposed to be some NXT UK announcement today?
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Personally I don't hate Dolph Ziggler, it's just that I find him to be aggressively mediocre.
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I have always been exactly bored as Dolph Ziggler as I am now. He is boring and I have never remotely understood the appeal*. I also do not hate him because like... he isn't that interesting. He's WWE Style personified to me at this stage. *I gather it had something to do with him being slightly different from the WWE Style for a time and aping indie stuff but like, I think I was just rejecting WWE for indies stuff at that time.
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Dolph Ziggler's appeal 10-12 years ago was that he was decent in the ring in an era where workrate wasn't the focus in WWE. Since WWE raided the indies for good talent, being decent in the ring doesn't stand out.
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Ganso Bomb posted:Isn't there supposed to be some NXT UK announcement today? Probably happening within a few hours
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Dolph 100% has a "yearly title push" clause in his contract, there's zero other explanations
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The explanation is probably as simple as WWE has a lingering favoritism towards their homegrown talent.
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Chris James 2 posted:Probably happening within a few hours It's 8 pm in the UK. They can't even do this poo poo in local time.
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Yeah, it just strikes me that WWE sees Ziggler as a dependable hand and their guy who is a former World Champion so they can feed him to champs and no one cares because he just goes back to being the exact same symbol of mediocrity he's been for a decade.
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STAC Goat posted:I have always been exactly bored as Dolph Ziggler as I am now. He is boring and I have never remotely understood the appeal*. I also do not hate him because like... he isn't that interesting. He's WWE Style personified to me at this stage. when i started watching wrestling again for the first time since a kid i liked dolph the first time i saw him. "hey 80s buttrock gimmick, that looks cool" three weeks later i hated him
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Dolph Ziggler has been on the main brands for 15 years
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I think my favorite Dolph Ziggler thing is when Amy Schumer did a movie that featured a scene with her having sex with a big buff guy, clearly inspired by the time her and Ziggler actually dated, and WWE sent over John Cena instead of Ziggler to play the role
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If dolph ziggler was my ex and i could get john cena to play his role in a movie i would do that without consulting wwe
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oldpainless posted:Dolph Ziggler has been on the main brands for 15 years Very soon I will have watched a Ziggler-having WWE for longer than I had watched a Ziggler-less WWE  Well technically, since I'm not watching WWE anymore, but you know what I mean.
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Ziggler's WWE debut is closer to Survivor Series 1990 than it is to today
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Ganso Bomb posted:Isn't there supposed to be some NXT UK announcement today? They’re bringing it back with an empty audience. Not because of COVID, but to protect the fans from the roster.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Personally I don't hate Dolph Ziggler, it's just that I find him to be aggressively mediocre. I like Dolph a ton, but the problem is that 1. He, like everyone else, doesn't have a coherent/consistent character narrative, nor any memorable storylines that give him an arc. I remember some of his stuff with Vickie, and cashing in on Alberto, which were great, but those weren't really sustained pushes. I liked him tagging with Swagger. Perfect Americans? 2. Initially, he had an extremely unique look/style that set him apart, while borrowing from Mr. Perfect/Shawn Michaels to give you something new while seeming nostalgic - as time has gone on, he's slowly become more like everyone else (they even tried cutting/dying his hair) instead of evolving. 3. He's been Dolph Ziggler since 2008; a year or two working somewhere else or even just resting would've freshened him up, but, well, that's not how this industry works.
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I think I like Dolph Ziggler but hate Nick Nemeth. Which is to say I think I'd like his gimmick, moves, and look in the hands of someone different who didn't whine a bunch in real life and then also play a big whiny character on tv.
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i like Dolph because he BUSTS his rear end, NIGHT IN AND NIGHT OUT for the WWE Universe (jk)
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Raw 1.735mil 8PM 1.862mil 9PM 1.751mil 10PM 1.592mil
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Chris James 2 posted:Raw Holy poo poo that third hour is putrid.
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Chris James 2 posted:Raw Ziggler really is ratings poison.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Dolph 100% has a "yearly title push" clause in his contract, there's zero other explanations Ziggler was a part of WWE falling out of my watch rotation. Anytime he was heavily featured I'd just check out. Once the habit is broken enough it's easier and easier to not come back.
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I mean, he was mildly interesting when he had AJ Lee and Big E. But I think that speaks for itself.
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anyone on this planet would be interesting in wwe if you gave them AJ Lee and Big E Langston even me. even you
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Someone mentioned TDE isn't doing WWE gifs anymore because they got content strikes or whatever and that made me realize since they stopped I just don't see anything from WWE anymore. That twitter account was the way I actually saw the cool things that happened during the shows and I just don't get any of that any more. I know this has been said to death already but it's crazy how little they understand what an account like that does for them.
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I just like that the fed is sending out Ziggler/Corbin (and to an extent, Charlotte) to all their shows to kill the ratings
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Only partially related to Dolph Ziggler Chat but I looked up the longest-tenured locker room leaders etc. and here is a full list of people who have been continuously working for main-roster WWE for over a decade and their debut/re-debut month: April 2002: Randy Orton June 2006: The Miz December 2007: Kofi Kingston February 2008: Big Show* April 2008: Natalya August 2008: R-Truth September 2008: Dolph Ziggler** June 2009: Sheamus May 2010: The Usos May 2010: Tamina * This is a weird one both because he was legitimately not under contract for a year or so in 2006-7, and also because he hasn't wrestled regular in like four years and literally went all of 2019 without a match/appearance ** This is also questionable because of what you consider him debuting, Spirit Squad was early 2006 but he also got sent back down to the minors after that wrapped and didn't come back for over a year as Dolph Either way, this list is a lot smaller than I would have thought, and I guess The Miz is officially The Locker Room Leader of Smackdown now?
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I remember how hot Ron Killings was in TNA before they knocked the legs out from under him. I knew he would never get pushed to that level in the WWE when he signed in 2008, but I also did not think he would win any sort of title 37 times and be on Raw 10-20 minutes every week even as a joke; I figured he'd have a run in WWE then come back to TNA and they'd finally give him a real push.
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