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They didn't panic book Brodie's title shot at all. He was originally going to debut in Rochester before the shutdown and chose to push it back a few weeks, which is probably why the build felt "rushed," but Brodie/Mox was always the plan.
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It feels like the original plan was for MJF vs. Mox at DoN. I know they said 90% of DoN was what they had originally planned on but I'm not sure how much I buy that.
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i think somebody said that too but i don't remember who
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Mox established that all you have to do is ask for a title shot.
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Aphrodite posted:Mox established that all you have to do is ask for a title shot. The problem with that is it makes everyone else on the roster look weak for not taking him up on the offer and instead waiting in line. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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STAC Goat posted:The problem with that is it makes everyone else on the roster look weak for not taking him up on the offer and instead waiting in line. It makes them look weaker than Mox, but also Mox is firmly established as extremely dangerous so it's hard to blame them for not wanting to gently caress with him.
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Pylons posted:It makes them look weaker than Mox, but also Mox is firmly established as a dangerous lunatic so it's hard to blame them for not wanting to gently caress with him. Well it makes them look weaker than Brodie. Why was he motivated enough to pick a fight but no one else is? Logically based on established characters if all you had to do was ask Darby Allin should be jumping off stuff for that opportunity, Jericho should have his whole crew backing him, and Lance Archer would seem like a guy who would be highly motivated. And that's without even looking at all the other guys nowhere near the title who would jump at a career defining opportunity. Being scared of the champ is a bad Brock Lesnar way to book. The title should be the most coveted thing in the promotion, at least to some.
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STAC Goat posted:Well it makes them look weaker than Brodie. Why was he motivated enough to pick a fight but no one else is? Logically based on established characters if all you had to do was ask Darby Allin should be jumping off stuff for that opportunity, Jericho should have his whole crew backing him, and Lance Archer would seem like a guy who would be highly motivated. And that's without even looking at all the other guys nowhere near the title who would jump at a career defining opportunity. Brodie is also the only person to kick out of a paradigm shift (at 1, I'll add) so most of the roster *is* weaker than Brodie.
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Let's remember the "all you had to do was ask" line came at the end of a brutal beatdown as a way of taking the wind out of Brodie's sails.
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Pylons posted:It feels like the original plan was for MJF vs. Mox at DoN. I know they said 90% of DoN was what they had originally planned on but I'm not sure how much I buy that. I’m pretty sure MJF said on the post-Revolution Dynamite declared a title shot was his next focus.
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Lamuella posted:Let's remember the "all you had to do was ask" line came at the end of a brutal beatdown as a way of taking the wind out of Brodie's sails. Yeah, I don't actually think its some established idea. Its just what Mox expressed as bravado at Brodie. But it still goes back to the original point that Brodie's title shot was rushed and not given a ton of legitimacy and it followed Hager getting what felt like an undeserving shot no one was asking for and then Cage being hotshotted into the title picture. I don't personally have a huge problem with Moxley being a "fighting champion". I just think title shots should be built up a little bit or earned in some way. I don't have a huge problem with Cage's situation, but I wish it was being slowplayed a bit more. And claiming the TNT title is "equal" and having Cody genuinely do "fighting champion" with it and lots of people stepping up ends up making things feel a bit more complicated. Pylons posted:Brodie is also the only person to kick out of a paradigm shift (at 1, I'll add) so most of the roster *is* weaker than Brodie. But that's still not good. You want Brodie to look strong, not for the rest of the roster to look weak. Its a line to walk but it exists. Bear in mind, I'm talking hypothetically here. As I said, I don't particularly buy into the "you just have to ask" thing. I just take Moxley as a braggart. Hager and Brodie were an issue but Cage is a step in the right direction of "earning" title shots again.
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Benne posted:They didn't panic book Brodie's title shot at all. He was originally going to debut in Rochester before the shutdown and chose to push it back a few weeks, which is probably why the build felt "rushed," but Brodie/Mox was always the plan. Brodie debuted the week he was scheduled to. I don’t think it was “panic booking” but it was almost definitely a pivot given COVID. The Dark Order vs. SCU feels like it might’ve been the original plan before Uno and Stu got stuck in Canada.
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I live in Rochester and I will forever be disappointed I didn’t get to see the reappearance of our perfect beautiful local son Brodie Lee
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Fumaofthelake posted:I live in Rochester and I will forever be disappointed I didn’t get to see the reappearance of our perfect beautiful local son Brodie Lee As just a fan i will be forever sad Brodie and Matt didn't debut to a hot crowd because there's nothing better than a wrestling crowd losing their poo poo.
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I mean, all Brodie has to do was ask, presumably because Mox wanted to fight him anyway. He's not under any obligation to give anybody else an opportunity just because they want it.
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https://www.pwinsider.com/article.php?id=137155&p=1PWInsider posted:New Japan Pro Wrestling held a secret TV taping today in the Los Angeles area under the title "Lion's Break Collision."
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Yes please.
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Filthy Tom has made it to the big leagues. Bryan must be so proud/disgusted.
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Has Bryan ever worked Rocky Romero, seems like his kind of guy to wrestle? Oh, and yeah, Christian's probably doing a match with Randy Orton presumably because Edge is too hurt to continue the program that needs to keep going for some reason after progressing from LAST MAN STANDING to A REGULAR MATCH. I assume this will be a verbal debate.
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Half of tonight's SD is the Taker tribute, including a replay of the Mania match with Styles. Other plans include segments with Jeff Hardy and Matt Riddle Corona made a lot of people too cautious to want to show up
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They're going to air a boneyard match, and then also show that Styles/Taker WM match.
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Speaking of Extreme Rules: The Horror Show is going to have a cinematic match (Braun defending the Universal title against Bray) WrestlingInc posted:Wrestling Inc. has learned that the plan is to have various spots and storytelling telling of their past to the present. They want to go back to what made the Boneyard match special "but in a Bray Wyatt kind of way." Wyatt is said to be heavily involved in creating this match along with Jeremy Borash. Triple H will be involved as well when it comes time to film along with a few others. They are trying to keep this shoot close to the vest. Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jun 26, 2020 |
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WWE finally found a way to get some people to watch WWE Films. I hope its directed by the Soska Sisters.
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STAC Goat posted:WWE finally found a way to get some people to watch WWE Films. Vince will take one look at them and give them the women's tag titles.
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That sounds like the most insufferable bullshit ever, which is par for the course with Bray Wyatt these days
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Actual big time spoiler, here, mouseover at your own risk. Whoopsy daisy!
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Guess that’s one way to get your release.
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MJeff posted:Actual big time spoiler, here, mouseover at your own risk. Well... no reason to watch NXT next week I guess
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Astro7x posted:Well... no reason to watch NXT next week I guess "That'll put butts in the seats!"
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Time to retape it and have Cole win.
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and waste that much pyro? r u cRAZYYY
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Hirez posted:and waste that much pyro? r u cRAZYYY
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fatherofmustard posted:Time to retape it and have Cole win.  they might not even have to retapehttps://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1278872916893904897
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Watch in awe as Keith Lee and Adam Cole attempt to recreate Community episode Remedial Chaos Theory as a wrestling match
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What am I looking at? Is that Rikishi?
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Indeed. Rikishi has won the NXT World title.
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All of Fyter Fest night 2 has been leaked from a pretty reputable source: Omega/Page vs. Private Party: Kicked it off with the only title match on the card. Pretty fast paced match. Page and Omega retain with the Last Call. Lance Archer vs. Joey Janela: Archer attacks before the bell and pounds Janela around for a bit. Janela gets in a little offense, but it's mostly ineffective until he counters a Blackout with a nice inverted face buster. He goes up top, but Roberts distracts the ref and allows surprise interference (?!). Archer capitalizes with a Blackout to the outside and rolls Janela back in for the three count. Promo: Taz out to cut a promo on Moxley not showing up. Taz says Moxley is done at Fight for the Fallen. FTR/Bucks vs. Lucha Bros/Butcher and Blade: Lots of great offense. Poisonrana off the top, splash off the top to the outside. FTR hit a Shatter Machine on a running Fenix. FTR set up the Mind breaker, but Wheeler got pulled off the ropes to the outside. Harwood turned and walked to the other corner and Matt climbed the ropes for the assist to land it. Finish teased Bucks vs. FTR, and Lucha Bros and Butcher/Blade picked up the win. After the match, FTR helps up the Bucks and there's a brief staredown, but they all go to the back without fighting. Nyla Rose vs. TBD: Nyla squashes two jobbers. Wins with a powerbomb, then cuts a promo saying she's going to be the Women's Champion again. Disappointing. Dark Order and Cabana vs. SCU: Scorpio carries most of the load for SCU early. Lee is dominant when he's in. Cabana looks conflicted and walks away from the ropes a couple times, but eventually starts taking orders from Lee. He begins working in tandem moves with Lee and Grayson as well. Finish comes when Cabana pulls Daniels off of a pin on Grayson while Lee is on the outside. Daniels gives him the "what's wrong with you" scolding and they have a brief staredown while Cabana contemplates what he's done. This allows Lee to sneak back into the ring and hit the big clothesline. Grayson gets up and tags in Cabana, letting him get the pin. Promo: Women screaming. No idea what was actually happening, lol. Chris Jericho vs. Orange Cassidy: Main Event. This is some of Jericho's best ring psychology and storytelling. Cassidy starts of by putting his hands in his pockets and running circles around Jericho for a bit, but Jericho eventually takes over. The majority of the match from here is a series of moves by Jericho with his signature taunting in between, followed by several brief moments where it looks like Cassidy will gain momentum. He never does, with Jericho eventually countering out of his runs of offense after a couple moves and taking control again. Jericho maintains control and locks in the Walls of Jericho. He uses the ropes for leverage several times and gets admonished by Aubrey Edwards, but keeps doing it. She catches him again and knocks his hand free, allowing Cassidy to counter out. Cassidy wins boo/yea punches and looks to gain momentum again, but Jericho stalls him again by dumping him outside. Fantastic underdog stuff. Cassidy finally has his moment and gets some real offense in with a hurricanrana out of the corner followed by hands back in his pockets and lazy kicks. He feigns the final lazy kick wind up, but hits a super kick instead, then goes up top and hits a big elbow for a two count. Jericho regains control into the Walls of Jericho again, but Cassidy is eventually able to roll out of it. Jericho hits a code breaker, but Cassidy kicks out at two. Cassidy counters a vertical suplex into a stunner. He runs the ropes and looks to be gaining momentum for a second time, but Jericho spins the Judas Effect out of nowhere for the win. Great match with GREAT storytelling. Cassidy has Daniel Bryan style underdog momentum.
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The Cameo posted:Watch in awe as Keith Lee and Adam Cole attempt to recreate Community episode Remedial Chaos Theory as a wrestling match And Roddy lost his larynx because for some stupid reason, he tried to eat Dexter Lumis!
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