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Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/02/tucker-carlson-2024-republicans-348334

quote:

Tucker Carlson’s audience is booming — and so is chatter that the popular Fox News host will parlay his TV perch into a run for president in 2024.

Republican strategists, conservative commentators, and former Trump campaign and administration officials are buzzing about Carlson as the next-generation leader of Donald Trump’s movement — with many believing he would be an immediate frontrunner in a Republican primary.

“He’s a talented communicator with a massive platform. I think if he runs he’d be formidable,” said Luke Thompson, a Republican strategist who worked for Jeb Bush’s super PAC in 2016.

While practically every Republican eyeing a 2024 presidential run is professing loyalty to Trump the person, Carlson has become perhaps the highest-profile proponent of “Trumpism” — a blend of anti-immigrant nationalism, economic populism and America First isolationism that he articulates unapologetically and with some snark. At the same time, he's shown a rare willingness among Republicans to bluntly criticize Trump when he believes the president is straying from that ideology.

In another twist, Carlson has established a friendship with Donald Trump, Jr., according to a source familiar with their relationship. Trump Jr. has drawn his own share of presidential buzz.

“Tucker Carlson Tonight” is currently the most watched cable news program in history, according to the second quarter ratings released this week. And on Fox News’ YouTube channel, Carlson’s segments from the past quarter have drawn well over 60 million views and are among the most popular videos in the eight years since the network began posting on the platform.

His popularity with the base would instigate a debate over the future of the party — essentially whether Trump was an aberration or a party-realigning disrupter — a fight that will be all the fiercer if Trump loses in November.

“Let me put it this way: If Biden wins and Tucker decided to run, he’d be the nominee,” said Sam Nunberg, a former top political aide to Trump who knows Carlson. But Nunberg said he doesn’t believe Carlson will run because “he’s so disgusted with politicians.”

Sixteen prominent Republicans interviewed by POLITICO said there’s an emerging consensus in the GOP that the 51-year-old Carlson would be formidable if he were to run. Some strategists aligned with other potential candidates are convinced he will enter the race and detect the outlines of a stump speech in Carlson’s recent Fox monologues. Others, particularly those who know him well, are skeptical that he would leave his prime-time TV gig.

Carlson and Fox News declined to comment.

Putting my money down on a Carlson/Cotton GOP ticket in 2024.

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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
can't wait to watch this guy to rail about capitalism until he forces all the companies to stop being woke and then love the system again

animist
Aug 28, 2018
ah, there's the competent fascist

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


animist posted:

ah, there's the competent fascist

if he does run we are legit hosed

human garbage bag
Jan 8, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
lol we have to vote for trump so he's blamed for the collapse.

Robert Plant
Jan 6, 2015

(searching for bright side) maybe society will have collapsed by then

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

if he does run we are legit hosed

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
the left case for trump 2020 / comrade chuan jianguo 2020

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Fascist country elevates yet another fascist to presidency

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
the only way to really challenge carlson is to remind him that he's rich and he'll lose his poo poo but i doubt a single democrat would dare

Dreylad has issued a correction as of 04:38 on Jul 3, 2020

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

animist posted:

ah, there's the competent fascist

TheLemonOfIchabod
Aug 26, 2008
2024? Why not 2020? He would probably win

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

some gen X fascist like tucker or dan crenshaw or tom cotton is definitely in the pipes for 2024 and the democrats are doing their damnedest to make sure they are going to be able to walk right into office since they are offering absolutely dick in the face of the rapidly multiplying social problems we are facing

sad@!

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Egg Moron posted:

some gen X fascist like tucker or dan crenshaw or tom cotton is definitely in the pipes for 2024 and the democrats are doing their damnedest to make sure they are going to be able to walk right into office since they are offering absolutely dick in the face of the rapidly multiplying social problems we are facing

sad@!

Tucker Carlson with Josh Hawley as VP

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

animist posted:

ah, there's the competent fascist

competent is a stretch

smarter than any neoliberal though

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
i dont think he would make a good president because trump has a variety of funny faces he makes and tucker only has the one

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


tucker is the only right winger ive seen and thought has a actual understanding of politics. this makes him vastly more evil and dangerous than any Boomer Conservative moron, whose mind has been totally consumed by idiot propaganda for decades. trump has no real understanding of politics outside of a personality perfectly engineered for the extremely shallow media spectacle, which helped him win but wont help him actually achieve anything. behind tucker there is a real material understanding of politics that is very worrying. if biden wins, limps moribundly through the recession left over from covid doing nothing, and tucker runs on Blood and Soil poo poo with a (fake) economic populist message, he will sweep and we will be hosed.

hopefully he is comfortable just raking in fox news checks and doesnt want to be Hitler 2

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
a tucker carlson presidency would be legit loving terrifying

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

I hope he runs just so we get lols from AOC dunking on him being a Swanson heir

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020
He’s also extremely appealing to all the worst part of the right: Christian fascists, white nationalists, Wall Street/oligarchy, hawks/MIC, libertarians, and even MRAs. Trump never had the hawks/MIC, is so-so with Christians/libertarians, and is rapidly losing the decorum oligarchy to Biden.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

if he does run we are legit hosed

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

if he does run we are legit hosed

You aren't confident in Biden's ability to unfuck this completely hosed country?

sum
Nov 15, 2010

Donald Trump is going to be the Republican candidate for 2024 op

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgflCE7zRpc

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007
:waycool:

Aglet56
Sep 1, 2011
i don't like this

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
the incoming austerity + war horrorshow of the biden administration would give carlson a landlside 2024 win lol

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
yeah that's the worst part, biden's presidency perfectly sets up anyone with Tucker's politics with a slam dunk candidacy.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
Does this mean Biden is the accelerationist candidate now?

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

A4R8 posted:

He’s also extremely appealing to all the worst part of the right: Christian fascists, white nationalists, Wall Street/oligarchy, hawks/MIC, libertarians, and even MRAs. Trump never had the hawks/MIC, is so-so with Christians/libertarians, and is rapidly losing the decorum oligarchy to Biden.

is he appealing to the hawks? he’s the most anti war person in cable news on any network

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

fart simpson posted:

is he appealing to the hawks? he’s the most anti war person in cable news on any network

Tucker Carlson only cares about american hegemony in the world. This is the same guy who once did a segment claiming “corporations are the backbone of the left,” so take his anti-war talking points with a grain of salt.

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


Biden will be utterly hapless. His chief of staff will be an Obama goon. Obama, like Trump, is only good at the media hype-train spectacle, not the nitty gritty messaging, skull cracking, fighting behind the scenes of politics. All he knows is decorum.

First 100 day priorities will be:
- At least one Republican cabinet member and one "Left" cabinet member (who will be ignored while the Republican has a seat at the table), to demonstrate "unity"
- White House press briefings will be back but with Biden basically answering no questions. Oh, he's incoherent? Well, be glad these exist and "at least he's not Trump!"
- Big fuss about a Tubman bust or painting in the Oval Office, or some other empty gesture to BLM
- Depoliticize people. They figure people are sick of being "political" because they saw how people got outraged at Trump, so there will be no big initiatives, especially any stimulus cuz "we're broke, folks!"
- Some show of force against Russia AND China
- Show the bond traders the US is "serious" about getting its ballooning budget deficits under control, but without ANY cuts to the military budget (look at the fit they threw with the sequester).
- Big legislative showdown over entitlement reform where the Dems cave and cave in the name of compromise to what amount to cuts for anyone under 45


His approval ratings will steadily decline, but unlike Trump he won't have a firm base of support because he'll have done nothing for his base. He might have a stroke, who the gently caress knows, but he'll be more and more out of the picture. In any case, Dems absolutely eat poo poo in 2022, gaining not a single Republican seat and losing, like, New Hampshire or Maryland. House will probably flip due to utter demoralization among the youth, BLM activists, and suburbanites flipping back, hard, to Republicans vis-a-vie 2020.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

A4R8 posted:

Tucker Carlson only cares about american hegemony in the world. This is the same guy who once did a segment claiming “corporations are the backbone of the left,” so take his anti-war talking points with a grain of salt.

im not saying he’s good but he’s literally the only person in cable news allowed to ask “why the hell are we even in this war?”

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
there's only one man who can stand up to him in 2024






































it's motherfucking Paul begala time

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
sounds like DNC needs to run jon stewart 2024

R A L L Y T O R E S T O R E S A N I T Y

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

he's gonna win

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Korean Boomhauer posted:

i dont think he would make a good president because trump has a variety of funny faces he makes and tucker only has the one
Red Steel

Entenzahn
Nov 15, 2012

erm... quack-ward
2024 will be the most important election ever, which is why Meghan McCain needs your vote to defeat Tucker Carlson

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

tucker is the only right winger ive seen and thought has a actual understanding of politics. this makes him vastly more evil and dangerous than any Boomer Conservative moron, whose mind has been totally consumed by idiot propaganda for decades. trump has no real understanding of politics outside of a personality perfectly engineered for the extremely shallow media spectacle, which helped him win but wont help him actually achieve anything. behind tucker there is a real material understanding of politics that is very worrying. if biden wins, limps moribundly through the recession left over from covid doing nothing, and tucker runs on Blood and Soil poo poo with a (fake) economic populist message, he will sweep and we will be hosed.

hopefully he is comfortable just raking in fox news checks and doesnt want to be Hitler 2

i only relatively recently actually watched tucker speak in various clips, and it was chilling in a way that listening to politicians like trump or obama or bush never was

he's the only one in the room who understands and he's a loving fascist

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

tucker is willing to criticize slavish market ideology and tell his viewers that he agrees with aoc that 18+% credit card interest rates are too high

strasserism will be overwhelmingly popular with the american public when the alternative is being austerity scolded as bezos ascends to trillionaire

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