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you can tell im not one of the people getting doxxed by 2FA fuckups
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Statutory Ape posted:unironically w10 is the best PC os ever, imho I like 1607 LTSB, but it's still ugly compared to 7 Every build of 10 seems to have its quirks
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Jul 2, 2020 16:21
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1607 doesn't have dark mode, pass.
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Jul 2, 2020 19:12
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Last Chance posted:It's gotten pretty bad, but not quite Ubuntu or Mint bad yet. Do Ubuntu and mint have a lot of problems with bad updates?
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Jul 2, 2020 21:23
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Good point, I mean uppdating Linux through major releases has always been a crapshoot: it's easy to break something critical and wind up in a command prompt with no desktop environment. Windows updates wipe data and settings regularly which is arguably worse 'cause you can probably fix up your Ubuntu install somehow, but recovering data from an SSD or an encrypted drive might be a lot more damaging.
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Jul 2, 2020 22:28
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I've never seen it wipe data during updates. A few settings sure but never data.
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Jul 2, 2020 23:09
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GreenNight posted:I've never seen it wipe data during updates. A few settings sure but never data. There have been some major data-loss bugs, such as with windows 1809 where people had their whole documents or downloads folders deleted. But those were bugs. As far as 'intended behavior' data loss, the one I know is that if you put manually put stuff in the Windows folder it gets wiped during updates. Well, moved to windows.old where you can get it back but only if you notice quickly. But you can just not put stuff in the windows folder. I wouldn't call that a regular thing. This happened to me and I was just like, oh well gotta re-download the PStools pack and put them somewhere else.
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Jul 3, 2020 06:40
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Last Chance posted:Good point, I mean uppdating Linux through major releases has always been a crapshoot: it's easy to break something critical and wind up in a command prompt with no desktop environment. I think the risk of doing in-place major release updates on Linux really varies by distro. I've done several in-place release updates with openSUSE and it has never been an issue, but it also makes sense they would have the process streamlined. My main desktop now is openSUSE Tumbleweed, which is a rolling release, so I do have a little more chance of update glitches but I'd say no worse than what I feel like the risk is with my Windows install on the same machine. I do have to say that in my experience Windows 10 installation and re-installation is vastly better than it was on earlier versions of Windows. It's faster and has worked well for me so far. Now if only Microsoft could figure out how to put out updates that don't tend to cause more problems than they solve they'd be golden. I do tend to delay on applying updates for at least a day or so just because of the history of bad updates in general. I was working in a Mac-centric office when they rolled out the Mac OS update that bricked IBM hard drives, and that remains my benchmark for bad updates.
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Jul 3, 2020 07:21
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Something that looks like the OS is hijacking "Alt+Space" keyboard shortcut and showing me a menu that looks like the macOS finder. I've got a window that's way off screen and need to do the "Alt+Space, M" shortcut to move it around and can't. Is this something added to Win10  ?
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Jul 3, 2020 13:07
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Hed posted:Something that looks like the OS is hijacking "Alt+Space" keyboard shortcut and showing me a menu that looks like the macOS finder. I've got a window that's way off screen and need to do the "Alt+Space, M" shortcut to move it around and can't. In here it says alt+space is the shortcut for PowerToys Run, which you may have installed at some point?
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Jul 3, 2020 13:27
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Flipperwaldt posted:In here it says alt+space is the shortcut for PowerToys Run, which you may have installed at some point? That was it! I just came to thread to report since it popped a notification that PowerToys needed to update. I kind of forgot I had even installed it. Thanks for looking that up. Disabled the launcher and everything is groovy.
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Jul 3, 2020 13:37
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Flipperwaldt posted:In here it says alt+space is the shortcut for PowerToys Run, which you may have installed at some point? Lol fukken dumbasses.  : "What should we make the shortcut?" "How about alt+space? That's not already taken, right?" "Yeah prolly not. Good idea!"
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Jul 3, 2020 16:17
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The super dumb thing is that in all documentation for it, it is called a win+r run box replacement, so they could have just actually gone with that.
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Jul 3, 2020 17:31
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I don't know if this has been asked already but will updating to Win 10 2004 give me noticeably better gaming performance with that hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling feature? I'm running a GTX1070 with the newest drivers.
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Jul 3, 2020 17:52
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I guess at some point Windows Calculator got an update and turned the tile for it I pinned into my start menu into this: The tile for Origin did something similar with a forced background color, and I was able to fix that by going to the program's directory and editing some XML file who's name I've forgotten, but I can't right click on that Calculator tile and open a properties window or go to the shortcut's location. How do I fix this?
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Jul 3, 2020 17:59
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You can't. The next version of Windows 10, 2009, will get rid of the background colors entirely.
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Jul 3, 2020 18:07
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Lol fukken dumbasses. I've been using Spotlight-like programs for over a decade with alt+space as the shortcut and never had any collisions. What else uses that shortcut?
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Jul 3, 2020 18:38
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hooah posted:I've been using Spotlight-like programs for over a decade with alt+space as the shortcut and never had any collisions. What else uses that shortcut? It's the shortcut to the main window menu, the universal move-size-minimize-close one. (I had to try alt-space in a program to remember that was the key shortcut for that menu. Never use it myself, even when a program is offscreen I just right-click the taskbar.)
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Jul 3, 2020 18:54
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Last Chance posted:Good point, I mean uppdating Linux through major releases has always been a crapshoot: it's easy to break something critical and wind up in a command prompt with no desktop environment. This is something I've not really experienced since I began using Linux on my main desktop. Been running it for a couple of years now. YMMV of course, but it hasn't been a crapshoot for a while now in my experience.
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Jul 4, 2020 09:30
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Microsoft has this InitAll project going on, that involves new pool allocator APIs, that try to ensure that stacks and and variables and poo poo are properly zeroed out. They've been rolling it out in kernel mode lately/for v2004, and it's apparently one of the prime reasons why dysfunctional anti-cheat software like BattlEye has been a known issue all the time during development. I'm not sure how I should feel about ostensibly sensible and unavoidable software breaking when an operating system is doing things correctly. Or what it meant for system security in the past.
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Jul 4, 2020 11:08
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God, how miserable non-precision touchpads are!
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Jul 4, 2020 13:07
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Manually downloaded the 2004 update and neither my i9 9900k built PC nor my Razer Blade Pro 17 will update from 1909. Both times it just says "your PC settings aren't supported yet on this version of windows 10...". Nothing abnormal about either system. Googling this is essentially tossing a dart with no information to be found on how to actually get the update to install. Is there a log someplace that might specify what the actual issue is? Has anybody been able to update via patch or should I just download the ISO and reload that way?
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Jul 4, 2020 22:33
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Don't force it. If there's a block, it's because there are issues that Microsoft thinks will be detrimental to the experience. And based on goddamn unstable my frankendesktop has been since forcing a 2004 install through a copy of MCT, I am obliged to agree. If you're hankering for HAGS, it does nothing right now. Or rather, in the words of Microsoft's development team, was built in such a way as to be like "rebuilding the foundation under a house while still living in it". Gamers Nexus did a research piece into seeing what kind of performance gains are had from enabling it. There is a measurable gain, but the gains are only visible with bottom-barrel processors like the 10100 they used to create an artificial CPU bottleneck to test, something you very much do not have with your hardware.
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Jul 4, 2020 22:42
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The 2004 release has had a lot of hardware/firmware incompatibilities crop up, hilariously including on Surface products. https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-2004-rollout-were-slowly-throttling-up-availability-says-microsoft/
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Jul 4, 2020 22:47
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Don't force it. If there's a block, it's because there are issues that Microsoft thinks will be detrimental to the experience. Don't care about HAGS, just figured I'd install the "May" update since it's July now. Was mostly interested in WSL2 and sync changes.
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Jul 4, 2020 23:32
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I really want WSL2 too, but not enough to break my "wait at least 2 months before installing big updates even if things seem ok" rule. In fact I'm gonna wait 3 months, because covid work-from-home is visibly slowing development of big critical software like Windows, GPU drivers, and other stuff.
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Jul 5, 2020 00:15
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I only installed 2004 because this is a new machine and a reinstall wouldn't have been a big deal - other than having to reinstall drivers, browsers, and Steam it wouldn't be that bad. So far 2004 has been fine for me aside from it lowering my CPU benchmark results a little. That said, I need to update my old machine's Windows 7 to Windows 10 and I'm planning on going to 1909 for that one. Older hardware and an older install makes me loathe to experiment with it.
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Jul 5, 2020 01:00
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just had a fun time wondering why typing "python" into a terminal doesn't actually run the installed version of python, but opens up the Windows Store instead so I can download python turns out this is a thing, thanks!!!
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Jul 5, 2020 01:04
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Windows 2004 is still in beta testing, please don’t run it on production hardware yet
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Jul 5, 2020 12:39
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Last Chance posted:Windows 2004 is still in beta testing, please don’t run it on production hardware yet Isn't that the case for any version of Windows 10? Only the ones where support ended are truly out of beta testing, but you shouldn't run those either.
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Jul 5, 2020 13:51
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Apparently LTSC is the the thing that Microsoft considers to be its "stable" branch.
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Jul 5, 2020 21:46
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I'm on a Dell XPS on 1903. Got an update for 2004, updated it and it cause the system to absolutely poo poo the bed when waking from sleep. Whole system just becomes unresponsive and needs a hard shutdown. I've already rolled back to 1903 but is it worth it upgrading to 1909 or should I just want until 2004 is fixed (or superseded)? If I should go to 1909, how do I do that?
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Jul 6, 2020 04:47
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EoRaptor posted:Closing all their stores also signals the death of their surface hardware business. With no way to demo it to consumers, nobody will pay the price premium, and big corps want a bunch of support MS doesn’t offer. LOL. $1.3 billion or more in Surface sales every quarter this past year is nowhere near death. e: Surfaces will still be sold at big box retailers. The branded retail stores were only contributing a small percentage of consumer sales. Trying to find a link on that. beefnoodle fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Jul 6, 2020 05:40
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baka kaba posted:just had a fun time wondering why typing "python" into a terminal doesn't actually run the installed version of python, but opens up the Windows Store instead so I can download python This bit the gently caress out of us at work. (Image does actually have python present, it's just elsewhere in the path so the WindowsApps crap hijacked it.)
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Jul 7, 2020 05:52
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Apparently one of the update blockers of v2004 is the Core Isolation security feature. What the gently caress, Microsoft? It's your own drat feature/code.
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Jul 7, 2020 06:16
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I use ClickMonitorDDC to change my dual monitors (Dell U2312) brightness. I keep running into an issue where it can't recognise the monitors as having DDC. If I go into Device Manager they will appear as "Generic non PnP monitor" instead of Dell 2312. Has anyone run into this before and got it to work consistently?
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Jul 7, 2020 12:25
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FCKGW posted:I'm on a Dell XPS on 1903. Got an update for 2004, updated it and it cause the system to absolutely poo poo the bed when waking from sleep. Whole system just becomes unresponsive and needs a hard shutdown. I have an xps 13 and 15 that this has been happening intermittenly on since i got them I think? part of my issue i think was an undervolt (tho, IIRC, my xps 15 has done that since they upgraded the bios to disallow undervolting)
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Jul 7, 2020 12:42
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What third party free software would people recommend for monitoring my own internet connection/stability etc?
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Jul 7, 2020 15:25
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~Coxy posted:This bit the gently caress out of us at work. Yeah I have it installed and on the path, it's just their Great Idea was overriding it. Extremely jarring to type a command in the terminal and have the windows store open like you've been owned best part is if you don't just type python and you add some arguments, like you're oh I dunno running a script or something, the apps thing still overrides but it just fails silently 
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Apparently LTSC is the the thing that Microsoft considers to be its "stable" branch. LTSC is a tank and fantastic. I just don't know if I could get away with it on a GAMING PC. No Store seems to screw with a lot of things, too.
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