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Acerbatus posted:Can you summarize it because I don't think I have the fortitude to read it but I also don't want to repeat lies about it's content? Zero is a groomer who beats women and, silences them with threats of legal action. Sky's house enables this. There's multiple underage girls that stepped forward to call him out in it. There's some evidence that Vanessa was underage when she started dating him and being with him, but she released a statement through Omni earlier saying it's not true and any abuse/getting yelled at etc was her fault for not being stable enough.
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is this the blueprints house? is it turning out that, actually, there was no  that would have prevented someone from being a creep in full view of everyone else?
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baka kaba posted:is this the blueprints house? Reading through the lines it actually sounds like pretty much everyone in the house was in on being a creep to her. Here is Vanessa's statement: https://twitter.com/InfernoOmni/status/1279852449570963461?s=20 Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Hub Cat posted:Reading through the lines it actually sounds like pretty much everyone in the house was in on being a creep to her. Ooof, that is one of those "blink twice if you're in danger" situations if I ever saw one. This is like exactly what happened with Logan Day.
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I'm not sure on the Vanessa stuff, it seems very inappropriate to include stuff about her without her consent especially about her age which is entirely rumor.
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I said come in! posted:Ooof, that is one of those "blink twice if you're in danger" situations if I ever saw one. This is like exactly what happened with Logan Day. I wasn't sure what to say because like, on a surface I want to respect her wishes, but after reading that he controls what people say about him with threats of legal action and abuse I'm biting my bottom lip and kind of worried. Don't really know what can be done
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I said come in! posted:Ooof, that is one of those "blink twice if you're in danger" situations if I ever saw one. This is like exactly what happened with Logan Day. ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I wasn't sure what to say because like, on a surface I want to respect her wishes, but after reading that he controls what people say about him with threats of legal action and abuse I'm biting my bottom lip and kind of worried. That is kind of where I am at too. Like Jisu should not have came forward without her blessing in the first place but...oof...
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Hypocrisy posted:https://twitter.com/JisuArtist/status/1279756862808748032?s=20 well, duh. how big is this house?
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I mean if you know there are predators in the MB community and you're not saying anything you're kind of a shithead.
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Edit: VV Their post is the same thing but better VV Summary for the Manifesto:A predator's narcissistic justification of how he is the real victim in abusing a child Includes an account of their entire relationship do not read if child or abuse anything is an issue for you it's 100% not worth it Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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ImpAtom posted:I mean if you know there are predators in the MB community and you're not saying anything you're kind of a shithead. you should click the tweet, its a thread and it names someone. https://twitter.com/dormimir/status/1279495866840018944 https://twitter.com/dormimir/status/1279600944469049345 https://twitter.com/dormimir/status/1279620947788492800 https://twitter.com/dormimir/status/1279865828662407168 https://twitter.com/dormimir/status/1279957498477211648 and then the guy responds with his own tweet thread: https://twitter.com/ChocoIncognito/status/1279930538367696897 op replies with this https://twitter.com/dormimir/status/1279971320034283520
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Holy poo poo his defense is "other grown men were also preying on her, therefore she's a whore"
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I'd seen one of his tweets posted elsewhere here but jesus, he's really going in hard on that. e: As of a half hour ago, he's still saying he was "abused" by the girl he statutorily raped Motto fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Jul 6, 2020 04:58
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gently caress why. Why is everything.
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Y'all either need to read that manifesto or never ever read it. Just absolutely hosed on every level.  Summary for the Manifesto:A predator's narcissistic justification of how he is the real victim in abusing a childChoco creep manifesto posted:At the beginning of our second year, about 7 months into our relationship, M ran. She went to a Safe Place. She was dragged back home after a few hours by her sister and the police. A few days later, M’s mother and stepfather (who traveled to Arizona just for this) went to the local courthouse and files an Injunction Against Harassment against me, which is essentially a restraining order. They lied all throughout the application, yet the injunction was granted. This did not mean that it was legally binding… yet. The document had to be served to me by a police officer in order for it to go into effect. Since it was a minor restraining order, M’s mother and stepfather would have to pay the police for the delivery of this document. They didn’t do this yet, but left it hanging over me, looming on the horizon. Seeing as I wasn’t legally bound by it, I continued to see M every few days after my work ended, only meeting up in secret for 20-30 minutes at a time. This went on for months, until M’s mother caught wind of us actually communicating. To counter this from continuing, the document was served. I was immediately bound by law not to communicate with M or her stepfather. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/ChocoIncognito/status/1279945688764149760?s=20 https://twitter.com/ChocoIncognito/status/1279955760089141248?s=20 "my textbook case of grooming isn't grooming because I presented myself as a protector to a vulnerable child who I then sexually exploited. Also I apparently don't know what grooming is" "She smoked my weed, man. Who's the real victim here?"
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Hub Cat posted:Y'all either need to read that manifesto or never ever read it. Got about 5 minutes into this loving 10k word document and am gonna say if you have any experience with trauma whatsoever you should definitely land on the never ever read it side, because jesus loving christ. Just impossibly hosed up.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:you should click the tweet, its a thread and it names someone. Ah, my bad, sorry.
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Oh my god I was gonna make a joke about creep acting like Lolita was a self help book and welp Creep Manifesto posted:9. Suggested reading: Naomi (Chijin no Ai, lit. A Fool’s Love), a Japanese novel by writer Junichiro Tanizaki. It’s short, easy enough to read, and provides a lot of insight into these sorts of relationships.
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I mean this just happens to be the time people are comfortable speaking out about this stuff, I don't think there's anything unusual about that. What the gently caress is this society tho
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Shoenin posted:What the gently caress is this week When someone speaks up and other people see that they are believed, it gives them the confidence to speak out themselves. That's usually why you get the 'dam bursting' thing because so many people have to hide the abuse they suffered for fear of being punished.
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That manifesto is narcissism.txt, goddamn. He ends it by saying he'd be willing to forgive the child he was exploiting for what she put him through. What she put him through was apparently not worshiping the ground he walked on. Echoing the "don't read it" people. This poo poo is vile. This is right at the beginning of his story (spoilered for people who don't want to expose themselves to his disgusting prose): quote:
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this might not be applicable advice given current times but next time you go outside, every sixth woman you see, statistically, is a sexual abuse survivor. we're talking communities of thousands of thousands of people, and even with not that many women in the community, hundreds of women. this is not abnormal. the fgc, or gaming, or whatever, is not going above and beyond. this is the status quo. the only thing thats changed is that people are feeling confident enough to say it. im not sayng this as some lol HELLWORLD thing but to try and impress upon people the scale of the problem.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:https://twitter.com/ChocoIncognito/status/1279945688764149760?s=20 the sheer loving gall of this goddamn shithead, what the gently caress
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Endorph posted:we're talking communities of thousands of thousands of people, and even with not that many women in the community, hundreds of women. this is not abnormal. the fgc, or gaming, or whatever, is not going above and beyond. this is the status quo. the only thing thats changed is that people are feeling confident enough to say it. When the stuff about Vic Mignogna came out I remember reading about it and being struck by how laissez-fair the entire con scene was even though we're in the Twenty--loving-teens. It really seems like every fan community is a fiefdom onto itself, and while some are careful to ensure vulnerable people are protected that is by no means a requirement, let alone a guarantee. I can scarcely imagine a better petri dish in which predators could flourish. DEEP STATE PLOT posted:the sheer loving gall of this goddamn shithead, what the gently caress Growing up, I had the misfortune of knowing several men in their mid-twenties who were at one time or another in "relationships" with teenage girls. When anyone brought this to their attention, they would all spout some variation on, "hey, she came on to me," like it was their loving catch-phrase. They twisted themselves into knots trying to portray anything even approaching a power equilibrium because they knew that misogyny had created just enough wriggle room for them to evade the consequences of their actions if they sufficiently muddy the waters. Thankfully, this is changing, slowly. But you still see these guys leap straight into playing this poo poo off as if it's normal relationship drama and a depressing number of people still buy it, even if they wouldn't admit to it publicly in the current social climate. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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ImpAtom posted:When someone speaks up and other people see that they are believed, it gives them the confidence to speak out themselves. That's usually why you get the 'dam bursting' thing because so many people have to hide the abuse they suffered for fear of being punished. Not even just this, I mean in general all around. Its a good thing all this is coming to light no matter what. Clarste posted:What the gently caress is this society tho This is much more correct.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:That manifesto is narcissism.txt, goddamn. He ends it by saying he'd be willing to forgive the child he was exploiting for what she put him through. What she put him through was apparently not worshiping the ground he walked on. I can think of several body parts I would give up for the opportunity to dunk this man into a toilet.
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He posted a new thing. Its exactly the kind of monstrous woe is me victim blaming drivel you would expect. https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sraeo2
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Hub Cat posted:He posted a new thing. Its exactly the kind of monstrous woe is me victim blaming drivel you would expect. I physically reacted when I opened that and saw the header is No One is Innocent. I genuinely never thought I'd see a pedophile be so brazen and flippant about something like this--I don't even know how to process it, yet. Like, gently caress.
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Yeah I'm done with this guy, he is a 200 twitter follower nobody and well on the road to cancelling himself. I don't know if he is reveling in the negative attention or just has no understanding of right and wrong but signal boosting his poo poo is absolutely poison and I'm not doing it any more. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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I've never heard of the guy despite being somewhat close to one of the Melty hubs of the world (Georgia  ), but I kinda desperately hope no one else knew him either on any level other than playing video games together* because seriously what the gently caress.* Yes I know the story itself dashes my hopes
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Hub Cat posted:I don't know if he is reveling in the negative attention or just has no understanding of right and wrong. Every one of these guys has a story to tell about why they are The Exception. They think that some appropriate stew of circumstances will be enough to excuse their crimes and staunch their guilt; if only they could explain their side of the story. He wants validation, and he'll probably receive it from some small fraction of the community. He'll fixate on that sliver of enablers and tune out everything else.
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Ash Crimson posted:Guarantee you that sky was, to some extent, complicit in this When I was about 20 me and my housemates had a big house party. It got a bit out of hand and far more people came than we knew. A bunch of underage kids turned up, we chucked them out. Not because we didn't like them, some lived down the street and were good kids, it was just very clear to us that it was massively inappropriate for them to be here around people drinking and taking drugs. This poo poo isn't hard. This sky dude is complicit regardless if he knew or not about the grooming. It was his house and he let these kids into an environment that was unsafe for them.
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