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Milo and POTUS posted:I know this is more for general politics stuff but Ennio Morricone died No that's what this thread is for, so I don't have to hear about this poo poo from a meme or something RIP Ennio, thanks for the eargasms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYI09PMNazw
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Doc Hawkins posted:this is a bit heavy-handed of the writers yea, im not sold on this. the simplest explanation is usually the truest and I interpret this as Ben Crump reaching hard for a conspiracy charge against the city.
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Jul 6, 2020 10:21
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I mean he has litigated against the rich and powerful before. He may well be onto something.
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Jul 6, 2020 11:20
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I mean, it has a certain ring to it, but so do some of my shirt collars.
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Jul 6, 2020 11:30
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I hear echoes of Seattle in Atlanta today. A little girl died, allegedly killed by multiple gunmen near the Wendy's where Rayshard Brooks was killed.
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Jul 6, 2020 11:48
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Ben Crump is a local attorney to me and I don’t know him to bullshit. Police clearing out a building to make it easier to transfer to some rich guy isn’t exactly unheard of, either.
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Jul 6, 2020 12:02
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Crumps generally don't gently caress around. They have firms all over the South, too.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Crump https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/...04acecfb4e.html Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Jul 6, 2020 12:08
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The writing was on the wall for Hong Kong New law went into effect banning subversion of the government which criminalizes slogans and protest paraphernalia. Crimes under the new law are punishable up to life imprisonment and accusations of possessing pamphlets sufficient to provoke searches of homes. Libraries are being censored. Authoritarianism takes another piecs.
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Jul 6, 2020 13:45
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1280117571874951170?s=19 https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1280123057311547396?s=19 https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/1280133982131273729?s=19 Supreme Court decisions in 15!
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Jul 6, 2020 14:48
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Here will be some tweets, some inquiries, maybe even testimony. That’s it, that’s the end of the story.
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Jul 6, 2020 14:57
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Alrighty, that's it for the Supreme Court today. First was on robocalls, this one's on "faithless electors" and I think it's a "good" ruling. https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1280142330276786181?s=19 Faithless electors were always kind of bullshit. Edit: it was unanimous by Kagan, so yep, a clear good result. Five opinions to go, all gigantic, with no official release dates yet. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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facialimpediment posted:Edit: it was unanimous by Kagan, so yep, a clear good result. Five opinions to go, all gigantic, with no official release dates yet. You happen to have a list handy of the 5? I've lost track and can only remember that tax returns is still on the pile.
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Jul 6, 2020 15:59
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Good news y'all https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1280142138559299586?s=19
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death to the black snake
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Atlantic Coast Pipeline also got canned. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/05/us/duke-dominion-energy-cancel-atlantic-coast-pipeline/index.html
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Nephzinho posted:You happen to have a list handy of the 5? I've lost track and can only remember that tax returns is still on the pile. I was wrong, two are kind of important, three are massive: https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1280145168453206016?s=19
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If you have kids, loving hug the little bastards so they don't turn out as hosed up as the president. https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1280159027884851200?s=19 Simon and Schuster must be figuring they're going to sell eleventy billion copies of this thing.
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Jul 6, 2020 16:32
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facialimpediment posted:If you have kids, loving hug the little bastards so they don't turn out as hosed up as the president. Also don't teach them that the path to wealth is to be a racist landlord. Or a racist. Or a landlord.
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The other case besides the faithless elector one today has to do with the telephone consumer protection act. As of the 1991 version of the statute, no robocalls can legally be made to cell phones. In 2015, congress amended the statute to allow debt collection robocalls for government backed debt. Political consultants sued saying that allowing the debt collection while prohibiting political robocalling violated the first amendment. The supreme court agreed. Roberts, Kavanaugh, Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Sotomayor all agree that the restriction violates the first amendment. Breyer, Kagan, and Ginsburg would have held that the exception is valid. Because six justices agree that it violates the first amendment (but no more than 4 could agree on why - so there is no controlling opinion), the issue turns then to severability. All justices except Gorsuch and Thomas feel that the exception is severable and declared that the US backed debt collection robocalls provision is severable from the rest of the statute. Gorsuch & Thomas would have instead granted the political consultants an injunction saying that the portion of the statute that prohibits cell phone robocalling does not apply to them specifically. If all of this sounds like a clusterfuck, it is because it is a clusterfuck. The ultimate ruling, though, is that robocalls to cell phones are universally banned with no exception for government backed debt collections. The worst outcome would have been following Gorsuch's logic as that would have opened up the floodgates for TRUMP 2020 phone calls all the god damned time.
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Yeah that decision really did look like a complete clusterfuck, but the agreement on severability sort of bodes well for the future of the ACA/Obamacare, as Texas/Trump is arguing that the individual mandate can't be severed, and therefore the whole ACA needs to die. If, *if* the court keeps to that reasoning, the ACA will stand.
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So does that mean the robocalls you get for spam and sales are illegal? Will this actually stop them and make cellphone calls answerable again, or make cell phone providers help block them, or just lol RIP to answering my phone again unless caller ID/saved contact shows up.
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Jul 6, 2020 17:18
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facialimpediment posted:Yeah that decision really did look like a complete clusterfuck, but the agreement on severability sort of bodes well for the future of the ACA/Obamacare, as Texas/Trump is arguing that the individual mandate can't be severed, and therefore the whole ACA needs to die. If, *if* the court keeps to that reasoning, the ACA will stand. Financially and structurally though, can the mandate be severed? Without the mandate how does any of the ACA pencil out? I'd think (caveat: I don't know anything) that would destroy the exchange market, leaving only the regulatory aspects of the ACA.
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Carteret posted:So does that mean the robocalls you get for spam and sales are illegal? Will this actually stop them and make cellphone calls answerable again, or make cell phone providers help block them, or just lol RIP to answering my phone again unless caller ID/saved contact shows up. Those were already illegal, but the problem is they're done by ephemeral entities so there's no way really to complain unless you can find the source company that's making the calls. I got a call a minute ago about my business' google listing. This was an unlawful call under the TCPA, but it isn't a call from google - its a call from a scammer. If I knew who was behind the scams and could show that the call actually came from them, I could collect a judgment against them for each violation. As it's a spoofed phone number and there is no actual company I can sue, there isn't much that can be done.
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Best Friends posted:Financially and structurally though, can the mandate be severed? Without the mandate how does any of the ACA pencil out? I'd think (caveat: I don't know anything) that would destroy the exchange market, leaving only the regulatory aspects of the ACA. The mandate is already gone, though. The issue is whether or not the ACA can stand without the mandate. As the mandate was the cornerstone tax used to fund the program, it's hard to argue that the law can be upheld without the funding. I think the ACA is unfortunately dead.
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Carteret posted:So does that mean the robocalls you get for spam and sales are illegal? Will this actually stop them and make cellphone calls answerable again, or make cell phone providers help block them, or just lol RIP to answering my phone again unless caller ID/saved contact shows up. they've been illegal, it's just that the telephony network was built with no authentication, so robocallers could make mass calls with impunity because they could make them anonymously. the few robocallers stupid enough to leave traces have gotten hammered with legal action. political pressure on the telecoms to fix this is a major reason why the SHAKEN/STIR protocol (which mandates authentication) is finally being rolled out, which should in theory solve the problem of call spoofing.
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Carteret posted:So does that mean the robocalls you get for spam and sales are illegal? Will this actually stop them and make cellphone calls answerable again, or make cell phone providers help block them, or just lol RIP to answering my phone again unless caller ID/saved contact shows up. Those calls are still illegal, and the FCC has basically said "what do you want us to do about it?!" So I wouldn't expect them to drop off much
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Mr. Nice! posted:The mandate is already gone, though. The issue is whether or not the ACA can stand without the mandate. As the mandate was the cornerstone tax used to fund the program, it's hard to argue that the law can be upheld without the funding. I think the ACA is unfortunately dead. The counterargument is that the mandate isn't actually dead, it's just $0. Congress could've completely repealed the individual mandate, but they didn't, they just repealed the individual mandate penalty. Congress could've fully repealed the ACA, but they didn't, and none of the debate at the time was about ACA repeal either. Technically, this whole thing would be fixed if Congress set a penalty of $1. There's a serious argument to be made that a hypothetical Biden presidency with a Democratic Congress needs to start putting court-generated rights into ironclad law - the ACA mandate, LGBT workplace/marriage rights, abortion, etc. Take that poo poo out of the courts' hands in the first place and do some actual lawmaking. https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1280181957939195905?s=19
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Mr. Nice! posted:The mandate is already gone, though. The issue is whether or not the ACA can stand without the mandate. As the mandate was the cornerstone tax used to fund the program, it's hard to argue that the law can be upheld without the funding. I think the ACA is unfortunately dead. The argument I've seen is that the individual mandate is obviously severable, because Congress itself severed the mandate from the rest of the law by setting the penalty to zero. The folks at the Volokh Conspiracy have written quite a bit about that, and it sounds very reasonable to me.
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facialimpediment posted:The counterargument is that the mandate isn't actually dead, it's just $0. Congress could've completely repealed the individual mandate, but they didn't, they just repealed the individual mandate penalty. Congress could've fully repealed the ACA, but they didn't, and none of the debate at the time was about ACA repeal either. Benghazi has gone away
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Jul 6, 2020 18:45
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Looks like the South isn't gonna do it again.
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Next Assassin's Creed is gonna be a playable Hillary biopic
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I hope it was from coronavirus. They need to go ahead and rename the park that was named for him in his hometown (Mt Juliet, TN) now that he's dead.
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That Works posted:Next Assassin's Creed is gonna be a playable Hillary biopic Hitman 3 coming in 2021  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Ob-fupzKg
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NZ now putting a hold on returnees due to the large number of people fleeing home https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/420658/air-nz-putting-a-temporary-hold-on-new-international-bookings-to-nz
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Jul 6, 2020 22:27
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On the positive side, the last cluster investigation in NZ was closed yesterday 
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Jaguars! posted:On the positive side, the last cluster investigation in NZ was closed yesterday That sounds more negative than positive. 
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Jaguars! posted:On the positive side, the last cluster investigation in NZ was closed yesterday It's basically raging in the stupid countries. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1280264606443806723 https://twitter.com/tomphillipsin/status/1280263705998041088 https://twitter.com/FusaroESPN/status/1280254433352441856 America's still trying to pretend that team sports are going to be able to be played. There's a basketball tournament ongoing in Columbus where there were massive team-dropouts due to positive tests.
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You may call me King Ferryman and petition for sanctuary
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