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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I appreciate that at least a couple of people in here appreciate what Warzone was trying to do. I really enjoyed that one, it was equal parts stupid and violent which fits the comic feeling very well. I'll not have a bad word said against it.

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Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca
Punisher: War Zone is an insanely good movie. I need to rewatch it.

Watched 3 movies this weekend, inflicted a lot of pain on myself but at least one was good.

Money Plane (2020) - 1/5
This movie is 82 minutes long and it feels like triple that. Unwatchable in almost every way. I get that people want to make low budget movies, but the look and quality of the things in the film is so bad that it's very difficult to get into it. Edge is a charisma void, the script is horrible.

With a name and premise like Money Plane it's obviously supposed to have some amount of camp to it to make up for the lack of budget, but none of the humor in the movie is remotely funny. There's also almost no action and the stuff that's in there looks really bad, both in editing and direction.

There's about five minutes of over-the-top Kelsey Grammer insanity that saves this movie from the dreaded One Half Star rating but do not waste your time on this.

The Hunt (2020) - 3/5
Let's be clear up front here: The Hunt has the worst script of any movie I've ever seen. It's opposite day for every character when it comes to talking and behaving like a normal human would. But because it's SO bad, I was on the edge of my seat waiting to hear the next thing to cringe at in the film.

Betty Gilpin is very powerful and the action throughout the movie is very well done. Fans of movie violence will definitely be satisfied. The final showdown is especially tremendous and worth seeing the movie for.

It's weird to give a positive recommendation for a movie that in a very major sense is unfathomably bad, especially because I'm not an ironic movie watcher and I generally hate "so bad it's good" content. But this film is truly on a "you have to see it to believe it" level.

Cool Dimension (2006) - 0.5/5, DVD
Looks like a soap opera, the script and direction and acting are all horrible, it's very dumb and cheap. I feel bad that the stunt performers seemed to have actually tried in a few scenes. The movie's 72 minutes long and I legitimately paused it halfway through to take a nap. I'm confounded at the idea that someone at Sentai Filmworks watched this and thought it was worth the time to subtitle and press discs for international release. Completely without value.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Pillowpants posted:

What are everyone’s favorite revenge flicks ala The pUnisher or death wish.

I watched Kite yesterday. Solid violence

Blood and Bone is like a remake of Point Blank with karate and Michael Jai White. It's real good.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Boco_T posted:

The Hunt (2020) - 3/5
Let's be clear up front here: The Hunt has the worst script of any movie I've ever seen. It's opposite day for every character when it comes to talking and behaving like a normal human would. But because it's SO bad, I was on the edge of my seat waiting to hear the next thing to cringe at in the film.

Betty Gilpin is very powerful and the action throughout the movie is very well done. Fans of movie violence will definitely be satisfied. The final showdown is especially tremendous and worth seeing the movie for.

It's weird to give a positive recommendation for a movie that in a very major sense is unfathomably bad, especially because I'm not an ironic movie watcher and I generally hate "so bad it's good" content. But this film is truly on a "you have to see it to believe it" level.

Betty Gilpin is a powerhouse in it and carries the entire second half. It's such a strong performance that she singlehandedly makes me recommend it.

Snowman_McK posted:

Blood and Bone is like a remake of Point Blank with karate and Michael Jai White. It's real good.

Easily a top 5 DTV action movie, if not top 3.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
A couple of years back Mads Mikkelsen starred in The Salvation.

It is a pretty bare bones revenge western. His wife and kid are killed by a gang and he goes to get his revenge.

The cast is pretty good though.

You have as mentioned, Mads Mikkelsen, playing a Danish settler coming to America with his wife (danish singer Oh Land), young son and his brother (Mikael Persbrandt, Swedish actor, but who's counting) to try and make a new life for themselves after the 1864 war between Germany and Denmark.

The leader of the criminal gang is Jeffrey Dean Morgan, his sister is Eva Green (she plays a mute character which seems a bit of a waste with her) and one of his enforcers is Eric Cantona (which is a name that only means anything if you watched Premier League football in the early 90s.).

Anyway, bad things happen and Mads goes on a killing spree.

It is a very bare bones movie but it never really goes fully into the western cliches, it sort of maintains a respectful distance while doing its own thing.


So if you want to watch Mads Mikkelsen kill a bunch of dudes in various ways, this is the movie for you.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca

MrBling posted:

one of his enforcers is Eric Cantona (which is a name that only means anything if you watched Premier League football in the early 90s.).
Does he do a jumping kick on Mads?

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Pillowpants posted:

What are everyone’s favorite revenge flicks ala The pUnisher or death wish.

I watched Kite yesterday. Solid violence

this is probably the first time I've ever seen someone say they watched Kite for a reason other than "...what the gently caress they made a movie of that anime? and it has Sam Jackson in it?"

(do not watch the anime, it's literal porn)

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

MrBling posted:

one of his enforcers is Eric Cantona (which is a name that only means anything if you watched Premier League football in the early 90s.).


Lmao what? Has he had a secret Vinnie Jones-esque movie career these past decades or is this a weird one-off?

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

jojoinnit posted:

Lmao what? Has he had a secret Vinnie Jones-esque movie career these past decades or is this a weird one-off?

He does have quite a few acting credits, but its 99% french productions.

I have no idea how he ended up in this movie.


edit: some quick googling and it turns out that one of the producers is a Danish woman who lives in Paris and knows Eric Cantona and she told the director that he wanted to act in movies. The director is also a big Manchester United fan and felt that Cantona had a good look for a villain so he asked him if he wanted to be in the movie.

MrBling fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 6, 2020

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca

WeedlordGoku69 posted:

this is probably the first time I've ever seen someone say they watched Kite for a reason other than "...what the gently caress they made a movie of that anime? and it has Sam Jackson in it?"

(do not watch the anime, it's literal porn)
But, DO watch the No Doubt Ex-Girlfriend music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yqru5UXWGY

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Anyone near Lehighton, PA? You lucky bastards can go see Hard Boiled at a drive-in next Tuesday.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

flashy_mcflash posted:

Anyone near Lehighton, PA? You lucky bastards can go see Hard Boiled at a drive-in next Tuesday.

Oh man, PLEASE do this if you can. Hard Boiled should be enjoyed on a big big screen with people hootin' and hollerin' at every cool shot (literally and figuratively)

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006

WeedlordGoku69 posted:

this is probably the first time I've ever seen someone say they watched Kite for a reason other than "...what the gently caress they made a movie of that anime? and it has Sam Jackson in it?"

(do not watch the anime, it's literal porn)

I still have cable because my in laws live in the basement so I was perusing on demand and saw it.

Pillowpants fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jul 7, 2020

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Pillowpants posted:

I still have cable because my in laws live in the basement so I was perusing on demand and saw it.

i'm not dogging on ya, that's just a movie that more or less slipped everyone's radar except for people who have seen way too much questionable anime.

the live-action movie is a significant improvement on the source material for the simple reason that it doesn't have multiple graphic rape scenes.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
poo poo, I didn't even know there was an adaption of it.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
like the original Kite is one of those really tough ones, because, like, there are several really genuinely cool action scenes in it (including a bathroom fight that I'm pretty sure Casino Royale just flat out stole), it has a really neat art style and a nice gritty semi-cyberpunk vibe, the story is actually kind of interesting

but it's also literal no-poo poo hentai, and very heavy on the horrifying anime sex, most of which is non-consensual. like, even as someone who'll happily go to bat for poo poo like Berserk and Fate/stay night, I cannot genuinely recommend anyone go check out Kite unless they have a very goddamn strong stomach for that kind of thing. but i also can't reasonably say it's a bad movie, because literally everything outside of the porn is fine-to-great.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca

Boco_T posted:

Action Movie Fan Streaming Update: July 2020

Amazon Prime: The Running Man, Ronin, Bulletproof Monk, Death Wish
Pluto: Outrage
Hoopla: Paycheck, Righteous Kill
Netflix: Total Recall, Ip Man 4 (7/20)
Hulu: Die Hard 4, Tetsuo: The Bullet Man
Some of these lists weren't out when I checked last week, so here's some more. I don't know what Fubo is but it seems expensive so maybe just ignore that one.

Tubi: Ong Bak 1-2, xXx 1-2, Accident Man, The Condemned 2

Fubo TV: Rambo 1-3, Escape Plan, Red, Pitch Black, Demolition Man, Hitman

IMDb: Con Air, Tombstone, Battle Royale

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


dokmo posted:

My faves are 70s exploitation things like Lady Snowblood and Ms 45 and Thriller - A Cruel Picture.

The ultimate revenge stories for me are Bugs Bunny cartoons, where his revenge is so far beyond what the original insult was.

Any mention of Lady Snowblood should be accompanied by Female Prisoner 701: Scorpion, a similarly great revenge movie with the same lead actress. She’s also in several of the Battles Without Honor and Humanity films, which aren’t really revenge movies but almost always have at least one revenge subplot

married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender
Female Prisoner 701 is so much better than Lady Snowblood in literally every measurable and unmeasurable way, it's not even funny.
The downside is it's absolutely a skeevy exploitation film full of sexual violence.
Sequel is less good, still better than Lady Snowblood, third one is almost as good as the first again.

brocked
Oct 25, 2005

All shall love me and despair!
The Denzel version of Man On Fire is a pseudo-revenge movie
Did we mention Lady Vengeance?
I haven't seen the Rhythm Section yet, but it looks passable
Rolling Thunder is a classic

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
I thought the rhythm section was terribly boring

CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.
I love Man On Fire. The Bluray looks so goddamn amazing too.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

brocked posted:

The Denzel version of Man On Fire is a pseudo-revenge movie
Did we mention Lady Vengeance?
I haven't seen the Rhythm Section yet, but it looks passable
Rolling Thunder is a classic

Lady Vengeance was a revelation to me. It's one thing to see Oldboy in 2005 and discover the new powerhouse that is Korean cinema, it's another to realise that it's actually the weakest of the revenge trilogy it's part of. Lady Vengeance is the best.

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man
Scott Adkins interviews Tony Jaa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj_pj9rnIWM

Adkins is so good at these interviews.

dokmo fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jul 10, 2020

AccountSupervisor
Aug 3, 2004

I am greatful for my loop pedal
Movie was alright but did anyone else find the one shot sequence in Extraction pretty awful? It was just the most painfully obvious digital seams every 10 seconds and it completely took me out of the illusion for almost the entire sequence. It barely felt like it had any compositional cohesion other than "camera must be here to make the next digital transition".

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

AccountSupervisor posted:

Movie was alright but did anyone else find the one shot sequence in Extraction pretty awful? It was just the most painfully obvious digital seams every 10 seconds and it completely took me out of the illusion for almost the entire sequence. It barely felt like it had any compositional cohesion other than "camera must be here to make the next digital transition".

While I didn't feel it as bad as you did, yeah I wasn't that impressed with it. There was very obvious tracking cover-ups and poo poo.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I have found myself recently feeling the need to revisit Wanted. What was the thread's general consensus on that? I feel like it was a fun, very daft chunk of pure popcorn cinema.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
It has moments, but it's also pretty stupid. The action is largely mediocre. I always felt the "curved bullets" poo poo was just a worse version of what they had in Equilibrium. I'm not a fan.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

It has moments, but it's also pretty stupid. The action is largely mediocre. I always felt the "curved bullets" poo poo was just a worse version of what they had in Equilibrium. I'm not a fan.

The curved bullets thing didn't even really have it's own sci-fi logic to it, whereas at least with gun-kata you've got an explanation that works within the universe they're presenting. These cleric guys are just so highly trained and their instincts so honed that they literally know when you're going to shoot at them before you pull the trigger. In Wanted it's basically just "we flick our wrist and our natural talent makes the bullet curve....somehow."

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
I mean Equilibrium is literally "that blonde lady with floating math" gif but with gunplay. The entire point is not that they know when their opponent is going to shoot, but the most statistically optimal way to position themselves and fire their guns so that they get the most statistically likely outcome of "the target dies". It's literally Gun Spergin', it's ridiculous (but I honestly love it).

Wanted is too banal. They swing guns in an arc and the bullet curves. That's it. They don't do cool poses, they don't have to slide down a banister or do elaborately choreographed moves, they just swing their arms around like a big ole' flightless bird and then the camera lovingly follows the bullet around some object into the target. It's just not good enough. It was actually a VERY fun concept in the Wanted video game, but it was trash for a movie.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca
I watched five more 2020 action movies, plus a 2018 movie that will allow me to soon watch a 2020 action movie.

The Debt Collector (2018) - 4/5, Netflix
This is how you make an action movie on a budget. The plot is simple. A nice guy needs money so he takes a job as a debt collector for a loan shark. That's it. There's not 3 shadow organizations double crossing each other or some made up chemical weapon like so many movies at this level. It's all very good fights buffered by perfectly acceptable fundamental filmmaking.

Adkins and Mandylor put in nice performances, the pace of the movie is brisk and the scenes are varied, and you can see all the action nice and clear.

The treatment of women in the movie is not great, so it loses a little for that.

Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) (2020) - 3/5
Entertaining movie, though none of the humor landed for me and that hurt it. All of the action was top-notch, though. The direction and editing were restrained enough to not eat up the impacts and there was a ton of good environment use. Runtime was a little long but what can you do, overall it was still worth my time.

Bloodshot (2020) - 2.5/5
Highly medium film. First half drags because they establish Diesel as both omnipotent and omniscient. Then there's a plot twist that makes it much more interesting, though the movie is still mostly without real tension. Action sequences are generally good, though the big fight at the end was corny and poorly directed. One plus is that Vin Diesel does quite a few wrestling moves.

Double-digit runtime is the rule for action movies, so Bloodshot could have stood to have at least 10 minutes chopped out. PG-13 rating didn't hurt the violence too bad, it was mostly the standard "same amount of people can get shot as long as no gore comes out of their wounds."

Sonic the Hedgehog (2020) - 1.5/5
Look, this movie was not for me. I get that. But references are not jokes.

Even with a great throwback performance by Jim Carrey trying to salvage a monstrously bad script, the first hour of the movie is brutal to get through. Still, it won a few points in the end because the action in the last half hour is good and there is a heart here.

But that's not enough to get me to say you should spend your time watching it.

Hitman: Agent Jun (2020) - 3/5
Good but uneven film. Kind of a lighthearted take on a Jason Bourne story. Entertaining stunts, moderately funny, but really had a hard time walking the line between being serious and doing jokes. Ended up with a lot of whiplash in tone throughout. Definitely too long, also, and the fights have too many cuts.

Also, since webtoons are integral to the plot of the movie, there are a couple animated action sequences that were really awesome. I'd like to see a whole movie of those, honestly.

Overall, I had a fine time watching and if you're looking for a hidden gem among 2020 action movies I think you won't regret seeking out Hitman: Agent Jun.

The Rhythm Section (2020) - 1/5
This one's a big goose egg. Nothing happens for the first 45 minutes, it's all exposition, then a little happens and you think "well now maybe the movie will wake up and start moving" and it goes back to nothing happening for the rest.

The genres listed are Action and Thriller, and it absolutely has neither of those things in it. It has nothing going for it save a 3 minute Lively/Law action scene. The plot of the movie is your standard no-budget action movie's "3 shadowy organizations" and this one throws in "terrists" for a double whammy. Just because you put a few famous actors into it and make it more subdued does nothing to separate the quality from something like Survive the Night or Money Plane.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I thought the Rhythm Section was not horrible considering that I'd seen reviews calling it the worst movie of the year. But you're right that it's definitely not an action movie, so if you go in expecting that it's gonna be a big let-down.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:



Wanted is too banal. They swing guns in an arc and the bullet curves. That's it. They don't do cool poses, they don't have to slide down a banister or do elaborately choreographed moves, they just swing their arms around like a big ole' flightless bird and then the camera lovingly follows the bullet around some object into the target. It's just not good enough. It was actually a VERY fun concept in the Wanted video game, but it was trash for a movie.

This feels correct to my memory of it, and I think it also ends with the worst scene in movie history iirc.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Holy poo poo, here's Wesley Snipes giving an interview AS BLADE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NirDS5RK-mE

I am absolutely cross-posting this poo poo to the Comics thread, just fyi!

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


WeedlordGoku69 posted:

like the original Kite is one of those really tough ones, because, like, there are several really genuinely cool action scenes in it (including a bathroom fight that I'm pretty sure Casino Royale just flat out stole), it has a really neat art style and a nice gritty semi-cyberpunk vibe, the story is actually kind of interesting

but it's also literal no-poo poo hentai, and very heavy on the horrifying anime sex, most of which is non-consensual. like, even as someone who'll happily go to bat for poo poo like Berserk and Fate/stay night, I cannot genuinely recommend anyone go check out Kite unless they have a very goddamn strong stomach for that kind of thing. but i also can't reasonably say it's a bad movie, because literally everything outside of the porn is fine-to-great.

For quite a while the only version available in America was an edited down one that cut the porn stuff out.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib
I bought kite on DVD from Amazon when I was like 12 due to an amv

CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.
Anyone see Legacy Of Lies, Scott Adkins new joint?

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
A question about a (great) oldie: in Ronin, does anyone know where the part of the first big chase where De Niro blasts another car with a rocket launcher was shot? It sure as hell ain't between La Turbie and Nice as it's supposed to be; it looks to be much further inland. I'm trying to pin down locations in the film for a personal project; found quite a few, but so far this one's evaded me.

Edit: found it. Part of the DB5/Ferrari chase from Goldeneye was shot on the same stretch of road.

Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jul 18, 2020

Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin

Disposable Scud posted:

Anyone see Legacy Of Lies, Scott Adkins new joint?

Yeah,I liked it. Nothing special and there aren’t too many interesting action scenes but it has a pretty decent flow.

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thatfuturekid
Jan 5, 2014
Watched Furie and Wira back to back today(Both on US Netflix)

Overall I enjoyed Wira a bit more, which was surprised me. Tone and Atmosphere of Furie was good, and Ngo is a badass lead, but the fight editing took me out was fairly weak imo. And the train sequence was so blah and dragged on. The last fight sequence was really amazing but lasted like 30 sec.

Wira was weaker on the story and acting front, but I enjoyed all the action sequences a lot more. The bus scene in particular stuck out when compared to the before mentioned train sequence in Furie.

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