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DGK2000 posted:Alright, why Solus taste's voting made sense enough, I was being cagey as poo poo at that point and it was one of the reasons why he voted me.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:39 |
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Deadbeat Dad posted:It's not entirely fair to say ad nauseam. You 3 left votes on me. When three people are digging through my posts trying to link me specifically to one player and there is discussion between others/a post in the OP of death millers and the theory of a janitored flip comes out then yeah, I think there is something weird going on when I know my alignment. Good lord.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:41 |
##unvote Solus and Tokes - what do you make of the Jen X stuff.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:46 |
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merk posted:Good lord. Tell me what you honestly think the game is then. Is there nothing we should anticipate being wonky? You and yuming have everything figured out, please tell us how simple this game is and why everybody should ignore everything but the Jen X stuff. I'll wait. I'm going to be honest, it's tiring to deal with you latching on to me each game thinking you're right when I haven't rolled scum in any game this year. You go on this attack with people when you think they're right, pose questions they already answered, and then when the flip town you brush it off and act like you couldn't have listened or approached the game in a different way. Scum merk fine, whatever, that's your job, but if you truly are town then it's not the most fun thing to engage with.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:50 |
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When you think you're right*
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:51 |
Has Tokes said anything today?
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:54 |
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Sandwolf posted:##unvote I don't think she's a death miller- which makes it likely that one of the people who visited her are 3p, and I really don't give a poo poo about 3p hunting this early. Honestly I'm looking back through her D1 posts to see if anything jumps out, looking at the asiina votes, and seeing what we've got. The only thing that really weirds me out is that I broke the tie between the three vote leaders end of day, and there was an immediate rush on the person I picked. While it was ten minutes from deadline, I still don't like it. I'm not sure if I dislike the contentless votes from beet/you or DBD's hedging vote more. Sub Rosa basically gets a pass for hedging d1 for me because they're new.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:57 |
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Sandwolf posted:Has Tokes said anything today? Not a lot of people have, strangely. Also Sand, if I get lunched/killed please keep beating the drum about this game being weird and not to take everything at face value or play it as a normal mafia game. I'm not going to let people lead this game in a direction for scum to just roll over because of a false sense of security or being knowingly dismissive.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:58 |
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Deadbeat Dad posted:Tell me what you honestly think the game is then. Is there nothing we should anticipate being wonky? You and yuming have everything figured out, please tell us how simple this game is and why everybody should ignore everything but the Jen X stuff. I'll wait. I think I’m going to hunt scum and react to flips. If the game gives me info that makes me rethink how to do that, I will. Anything else is loving nonsense.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:58 |
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DBD, hunt some scum instead of whatever this stuff is please. ##vote DBD
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:59 |
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merk posted:DBD, hunt some scum instead of whatever this stuff is please. You literally just unvoted the person I am on.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:00 |
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Deadbeat Dad posted:Actually I would like to ask everyone publicly what they feel about the probability of death millers or janitored roles (with regards to Jen X)? Until I see evidence that it is a thing, I'm going to ignore it.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:02 |
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Merk is doing the same poo poo he did in Good Place mafia with me to piss me off, "hunt scum", "tell me who is scum", "you're not scumhunting" all while clearly putting votes down and explaining everything. I was town there and am town here.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:05 |
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Deadbeat Dad posted:Merk is doing the same poo poo he did in Good Place mafia with me to piss me off, "hunt scum", "tell me who is scum", "you're not scumhunting" all while clearly putting votes down and explaining everything. I was town there and am town here. Thanks for calling me town I guess.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:06 |
While I agree with DBD about the likely weirdness of the game, I agree is hard to take totally seriously until at least another night phase. But I would also say, it’s better to ignore it, I think we have plenty of posting and poo poo to sift through to find scum without needing to draw connections from NKs.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:08 |
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Sandwolf posted:While I agree with DBD about the likely weirdness of the game, I agree is hard to take totally seriously until at least another night phase. But I would also say, it’s better to ignore it, I think we have plenty of posting and poo poo to sift through to find scum without needing to draw connections from NKs. I am reading flips, not trying to figure out an NK. If I can’t trust flips at some point this game, it better be really god drat obvious.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:11 |
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merk posted:Thanks for calling me town I guess. If I was convinced you were scum my vote would be on you still, wouldn't it? I think you're tunneling on me and at best feeding into a dismissive theory of a game that can get crazier sooner than later.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:11 |
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The pera case, for me, isn’t based on JX being scum at all. If we think another day gets clarity to whatever this issue is, I can focus on that case. ##vote pera
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:12 |
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Sandwolf posted:While I agree with DBD about the likely weirdness of the game, I agree is hard to take totally seriously until at least another night phase. But I would also say, it’s better to ignore it, I think we have plenty of posting and poo poo to sift through to find scum without needing to draw connections from NKs. I can get with this pov.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:13 |
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I'm more and more thinking about spoonsy and the intercepted message, and whether or not that was given to him by JX in scumchat. Combining that with the, well, pretty easy to fake- and retracted/edited- results on a watch- I can see them as scum. THAT SAID, I don't think they share an alignment with DBD. DBD seemed to know a significant chunk of the masonry before it was outed, and that was pointed out by spoons- wouldn't be something you'd do to your scumbud, and I also still can't see the utility to scum to out the masonry. Also, DBD, with posts like this: Deadbeat Dad posted:I've felt weird about Asiina and Jen the entire day so I would be down with one of them. I think Asiina looked worse early and better as of late fwiw. Deadbeat Dad posted:##vote Asiina Why didn't you vote JX anytime D1? And with you being on Asiina for a significant part of D1, why the need to hedge your end-of-day vote as much as you did? I also feel like a lot of pushing the death miller stuff is a way to distance yourself from the fact that you never voted JX, but still posted about her being scummy anyway, which feels more and more like a soft bus that went too far. ##vote DBD
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:19 |
merk posted:The pera case, for me, isn’t based on JX being scum at all. If we think another day gets clarity to whatever this issue is, I can focus on that case. ##vote pera What is the case on pera
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:19 |
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SolusLunes posted:I'm more and more thinking about spoonsy and the intercepted message, and whether or not that was given to him by JX in scumchat. Combining that with the, well, pretty easy to fake- and retracted/edited- results on a watch- I can see them as scum. mafia edit: should be "more and more like a soft bus", no "went too far", had asiina's lunch on the brain and mentally swapped her with JX
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:20 |
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Who doesn't share an alignment? I'm confused.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:25 |
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Sandwolf posted:What is the case on pera I’m on a phone but it’s in my post history.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:27 |
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SolusLunes posted:I'm more and more thinking about spoonsy and the intercepted message, and whether or not that was given to him by JX in scumchat. Combining that with the, well, pretty easy to fake- and retracted/edited- results on a watch- I can see them as scum. This is essentially my DBD case if you put it in one post. I’m down with it and like how you presented it.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:28 |
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Deadbeat Dad posted:If Spoonsy is right and I did end up at Jen's place via re-direction or busdriver, I think I have pretty solid reason to believe death miller stuff. That is why I'm waffling about it because I didn't target Jen, but if what I received was right and has to do with Jen, then I could share what is making me lean into that belief. Everyone just went right over this with no comment? You are soft claiming you copped someone but if you were seen visiting Jen then you got a town result on Jen instead of who you thought?
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:31 |
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Sub Rosa posted:Everyone just went right over this with no comment? You are soft claiming you copped someone but if you were seen visiting Jen then you got a town result on Jen instead of who you thought? Not a cop claim. Also any vote that is based on connecting me to Jen X is wrong.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:32 |
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Deadbeat Dad posted:Who doesn't share an alignment? I'm confused. You and spoons, apologies for the confusion. Sub Rosa posted:Everyone just went right over this with no comment? You are soft claiming you copped someone but if you were seen visiting Jen then you got a town result on Jen instead of who you thought? I did miss this, yeah. Why would you think bus driving supports your death miller theory, dbd?
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:36 |
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Sandwolf posted:Has Tokes said anything today? Tokes has a single post so far. Hum has only two. Hal has zero.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:44 |
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Sub Rosa posted:Tokes has a single post so far. Hum has only two. Hal has zero. Looking forward to posts from them or the promised modkills from somber, tbh on those.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:52 |
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SolusLunes posted:You and spoons, apologies for the confusion. I've been debating claiming because I don't want my role out there but I'm being tied to Jen and it's frustrating. I'm Crane, Soul Camera Night Witch. Each night I can take a picture and borrow someone's soul via my camera and can use their power the next day. It lasts a day. I took a picture of Token last night because you and her soft-claimed roles. There was no incentive for me to target Jen on a power she may or may not have if people soft-claimed in thread. (Btw, I don't know if it STEALS the power for a day as in, the other person can't use their power that day or we both can use it, but I can test it on someone if I'm being doubted (no one else softclaim obv!). The thing is, I got vanilla back last night as my power. If Token isn't vanilla then I didn't target her. Which means Jen was vanilla. This is why ~I think I have~ information about the Jen stuff in response to Spoonsy seeing me there, because if I was re-directed or busdriven to them and they were actually a Cabal Goon, I don't think I would've just gotten "Vanilla" back as my power. Also her and Asiina's coins are the same which aren't just fluff pictures for no reason. I think I serve as some sort of quasi-confirmer role against any sort of death miller flip if I target the right person (in addition to being able to steal powers). Yes, I know that it's possible that a goon = vanilla, but my role would not make sense if someone can janitor a flip of a person I targeted and it can be negated by simply being vanilla, because if, say, Jen was actually like a cop or something, I would get the Cop power which clearly isn't just a goon and that would be verifiable. You get what I'm saying? That's why I've been flipping back and forth on Spoonsy's claim. As much as I don't want to believe all the information he has this game, if Tokes isn't vanilla, then I received a vanilla from somebody.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 04:03 |
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I'm willing to accept that "Cabal Goon = Vanilla" potentially, but like I said, it wouldn't make sense in context if Jen had any sort of power. I'm just asking you guys to at least accept the possibility of weird poo poo and not vote me out because of posts connecting me and Jen. If it's scummy poo poo besides that, fine, but I do not want to go home because of me being falsely tied to someone.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 04:17 |
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I read the coins as a sign they were in the masonry since their role isn’t mason.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 04:22 |
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yuming posted:I read the coins as a sign they were in the masonry since their role isn’t mason. Yeah, I'm willing to accept that since coins dropping as alignment might be too easy to decipher but I would like to hear from Tokes to confirm she isn't vanilla (not actually claim, just confirm).
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 04:26 |
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Sorry, wrote "accept" a lot in the last few posts.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 04:29 |
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I'll be around tomorrow more, just got some bad news about an old friend (I don't want this to sway or impact any game related poo poo involving me so don't worry about votes), but it'll be why I cut it a bit short tonight. I'll reply to any role related questions tomorrow or if anybody believes me and wants to theorizing about the game (maybe better to do that after D2), I'm down as gently caress because I believe it and I think it's fun to try to figure out since not every game is like this.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 04:38 |
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Theorize* I can't type.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 04:39 |
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Hello sorry been a long day, just caught up Spoonsy needs to come back and elaborate on why the DBD visit is so suspicious to him, as opposed to say Pera. DBDs response and hard push on death millers definitely feels like trying to scramble to find a redirect for sure though
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 05:19 |
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t a s t e posted:There’s no risk to his play because he can cite ~scum interference~ with incorrect or absent claims The whole oops not hum it was DBD bit seems natural though
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 05:25 |
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Deadbeat Dad posted:I'm willing to accept that "Cabal Goon = Vanilla" potentially, but like I said, it wouldn't make sense in context if Jen had any sort of power. I would think cabal goon would be vanilla for sure I missed your claim when I reread earlier, thisales me feel a bit better about you
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 05:28 |