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Hope this is on topic and not old man yells at cloud territory. I was setting up a mail redirect at the post office and we still get some mail with my wife's maiden name as it appears on her professional qualifications and registrations. Turns out what you're supposed to do is list that person as two separate people on the paperwork (Ms Jane Smith and Mrs Jane Jones). I didn't think of that and instead put my wife down as one person Mrs Jane Jones nee Smith and went to ask the clerk if that was the correct thing to do. The clerk, who was mid-twenties, had zero idea what I was asking about. Another older clerk came over and said, 'just enter it into the computer as two people'. We all stood around and watched this person go through ever single incorrect permutation of the two surnames and 'nee'. Jane Neesmith, Jane Jonesnee, etc. The older clerk had to dictate the two names letter by letter to get them right. Immediately afterwards she added me to the form as 'John Nee Smith'.
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Pocket Billiards posted:Hope this is on topic and not old man yells at cloud territory.
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Jul 10, 2020 02:53
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Something about that reminded me of an incident about 10 years ago where we decided to play cribbage during a long car trip. At the next town I went into a bookstore and after not seeing one asked the teenage clerk if they had any boards. He goes over to the older lady clerk and asks her 'do we have any  Cree-barge boards' (yes, he did the airquotes!). The old lady smiles and points out that they're right next to him and the clerk hands me one with a very hangdog look on his face. I'm fairly sure that anyone here from the boomer generation would know what one looks like even if they never played.
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Jul 10, 2020 14:16
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the only people who talk about porn having schmaltzy music are boomers and perverts (aka me)
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Jul 10, 2020 14:27
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i think of demons posted:This may be slightly antiquated verbally but is still commonly used in writing, at least partly due to economy of text in obit pages and other lists in which maiden names might be relevant. Do people under 60 read obituaries, you need a newspaper for that, or to look it up specifically on your local news... website? I don't even know. I submit this as part of the thread topic.
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Jul 10, 2020 14:28
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It is clear to me now I have to set a google news alert for everyone I hate.
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Jul 10, 2020 14:31
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Scudworth posted:Do people under 60 read obituaries, you need a newspaper for that, or to look it up specifically on your local news... website? I don't even know. Your local library likely has the biggest newspaper(s) digitized and searchable online. If you’re bad at online you can call/email and get librarians to look them up. When I do telephone reference shifts I look up about 5 obits a week.
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Jul 10, 2020 14:42
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postmodifier posted:There's an R.L. Stine book called The Beast about a time-traveling roller-coaster at Coney Island - the kids go on with like 40 bucks and find themselves transported back to the 1920s or something. All of the sudden they basically have enough money to buy every single person there two hot dogs, because they're 5 cents now. There’s a short story where people use a time portal to get cheap petrol.
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Jul 10, 2020 14:58
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This was a fun read, thanks for bringing it to my attention 
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Jul 10, 2020 17:27
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I read a similar short story about an elderly couple where the husband has finally gotten his time machine to work...but it only goes to 1968. He's depressed at his failure, but his wife immediately starts using it to buy meat at 1968 prices. I think it was in a collection like "1991 Best Science Fiction Stories" or similar.
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Jul 10, 2020 23:23
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Scudworth posted:Do people under 60 read obituaries, you need a newspaper for that, or to look it up specifically on your local news... website? I don't even know. Everyone I know in EMS does it, it’s like the sports pages. postmodifier posted:
It also made for remarkably consistent burgers since people were literally eating the same meat over and over again. I was watching some Futurama before and there’s a Joe Esterhaus joke in the credits of a movie that people now wouldn’t get, he hasn’t written on every goddamn movie in ages
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Jul 10, 2020 23:36
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postmodifier posted:There's an R.L. Stine book called The Beast about a time-traveling roller-coaster at Coney Island - the kids go on with like 40 bucks and find themselves transported back to the 1920s or something. All of the sudden they basically have enough money to buy every single person there two hot dogs, because they're 5 cents now. if you live somewhere where a burger is $15 in tyool 2020 you should probably move somewhere else
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Jul 10, 2020 23:44
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Jazerus posted:if you live somewhere where a burger is $15 in tyool 2020 you should probably move somewhere else Yeah, that $15 burger better come with a $5 milkshake as well.
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Jul 11, 2020 00:06
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Vietnamwees posted:Yeah, that $15 burger better come with a $5 milkshake as well. A shake? Milk and ice cream?
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Jul 11, 2020 00:21
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Jazerus posted:if you live somewhere where a burger is $15 in tyool 2020 you should probably move somewhere else Even in the relatively unpretentious city in upstate New York that I moved to, any actual, non-diner, non-fast food restaurant's burgers are 13-15 dollars depending on toppings. When I did live in NYC, you're talking closer to 23-37 dollars depending on the restaurant. So yes, I did move, but still not in reach of that sweet sweet 1.50 smashed meat dream. Again, inflation is a hell of a drug.
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Jul 11, 2020 00:43
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postmodifier posted:Even in the relatively unpretentious city in upstate New York that I moved to, any actual, non-diner, non-fast food restaurant's burgers are 13-15 dollars depending on toppings. When I did live in NYC, you're talking closer to 23-37 dollars depending on the restaurant. Yep, I’m in the Hudson Valley and a burger is 13 dollars minimum, except for the one night a week where a place near me did a 5 dollar burger special back before coronavirus. I think that special is done for now, though.
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Jul 11, 2020 00:48
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Krispy Wafer posted:A shake? Milk and ice cream? Yes those are the ingredients for a milkshake
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Jul 11, 2020 01:06
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Jazerus posted:if you live somewhere where a burger is $15 in tyool 2020 you should probably move somewhere else Do you live somewhere that only has one place to buy a burger?
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Jul 11, 2020 02:00
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Scudworth posted:Do people under 60 read obituaries, you need a newspaper for that, or to look it up specifically on your local news... website? I don't even know. I'd say young people are only seeing maiden names on FB profiles, which is in parentheses.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:10
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Slimy Hog posted:Do you live somewhere that only has one place to buy a burger? i have been to many burger places in my life and i have never seen a $15 burger. i would have considered the very concept insane before a bunch of people piped up that they thought it was normal. i assure you, the character in the stephen king novel in question was not competing against $15 burgers
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Jul 11, 2020 02:50
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If I’m paying fifteen dollars for a burger, it had better be a specific conferred or inherited title of medieval German origin and legally defined preeminent status granting exclusive constitutional privileges and legal rights.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:52
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Platystemon posted:If I’m paying fifteen dollars for a burger, it had better be a specific conferred or inherited title of medieval German origin and legally defined preeminent status granting exclusive constitutional privileges and legal rights. 
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Jul 11, 2020 02:59
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Krispy Wafer posted:A shake? Milk and ice cream? Does it come with a shot of bourbon in it or something?
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Jul 11, 2020 18:22
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Jazerus posted:i have been to many burger places in my life and i have never seen a $15 burger. i would have considered the very concept insane before a bunch of people piped up that they thought it was normal. I would really love a crying Space Needle emoji for times like these.
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Jul 11, 2020 20:21
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Around here a burger and fries in a non fast food restaurant is about $15 - $20 before tax. A meal at McDonalds is around $8 - $11. I'm guessing a lot of the people who find this odd are from the US? We're pretty used to paying more for everything here in Canada.
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Jul 11, 2020 20:58
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That's a ludicrously stupid plan anyway, everyone knows the best ways to make money with a time machine involve the stock market, or rare collectibles. Was the joke that the people buying meat at pre-inflation-crisis prices are huge idiots?
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Jul 12, 2020 01:19
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Chamale posted:That's a ludicrously stupid plan anyway, everyone knows the best ways to make money with a time machine involve the stock market, or rare collectibles. Was the joke that the people buying meat at pre-inflation-crisis prices are huge idiots? Sports betting of course. "Yes, that's right, Douglas by KO in the 10th."
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Jul 12, 2020 02:26
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Chamale posted:That's a ludicrously stupid plan anyway, everyone knows the best ways to make money with a time machine involve the stock market, or rare collectibles. Was the joke that the people buying meat at pre-inflation-crisis prices are huge idiots? A big portion of these types of stories are sequestered around visitation to a particular date and time, and that once you step back home, nothing you did in the past effects your future, a wrinkle of the many worlds theory, or whatever. You can bring physical objects back, but no bets or investments carry over to "real time" unless you live out the time to payout and bring back the actual goods. The short story that was just posted, for example, has the couple going back in time, and the wife dying to drunk/crazy driving teenagers, but when he returns through the time gate she's safely at home... but is it really her??? King's version in his JFK novel plays by slightly different rules, in that whatever you change sticks, but if you hate the outcome you can reload your save-state and try again by exiting and re-entering. Back to the Future shot itself in the foot with the whole Sports Almanac thing, because if there was some fucker making billions of dollars off flawlessly predicting wins who was never around betting before, all the teams would drastically shift and change their rosters in response, making a huge amount of the almanac worthless. If Hill Valley could change so dramatically as a result of Biff's winnings, why wouldn't the roster of the 1983 Cubs change too? Time travel is a hell of a drug.
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Jul 12, 2020 02:32
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postmodifier posted:Back to the Future shot itself in the foot with the whole Sports Almanac thing, because if there was some fucker making billions of dollars off flawlessly predicting wins who was never around betting before, all the teams would drastically shift and change their rosters in response, making a huge amount of the almanac worthless. If Hill Valley could change so dramatically as a result of Biff's winnings, why wouldn't the roster of the 1983 Cubs change too?
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Jul 12, 2020 02:57
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FilthyImp posted:Biff made his winnings off of Horse Races from what I remember. Likely because he could make big wins on the long odds races vs. the Big Events we all remember. Same logic still holds, if someone was winning crazy bets consistently on long-shot horses as opposed to maybe a handful of people betting chump change on the ocassional upset, it would drive massive inter-sport changes regarding jockeys, training, care, &c, &c to match those big-rear end winners. Given BTTF's treatment of time-travel and it's ability to change the timeline for better or worse, the majority of the sports almanac would have, itself, been depreciated well before Biff was able to use it to it's full extent... Unless, of course, it follows Marty's family photograph logic, where changes to the timeline are reflected in it's pages... Well, poo poo, I just solved the plot-hole.
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Jul 12, 2020 03:17
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postmodifier posted:Same logic still holds, if someone was winning crazy bets consistently on long-shot horses as opposed to maybe a handful of people betting chump change on the ocassional upset, it would drive massive inter-sport changes regarding jockeys, training, care, &c, &c to match those big-rear end winners. Not sure how film-accurate this script grab I found on Google is: quote:See Biff's humble beginnings and how a trip to the racetrack on his 21st birthday made him a millionaire overnight. It sounds like he parlayed his track winnings into a business empire - he probably could have made enough that once the horse racing results started to diverge, he had already moved on to being a less orange version of Donald Trump (though he could have made investments based on other sports if he needed a quick infusion of cash based on how well events continued to align with the almanac).
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Jul 12, 2020 03:37
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"Streak" definitely implies he made multiple winning bets in a row but ostensibly if he did them in close enough succession there wouldn't be too much time to make changes that impacted his bets... I think it is fair to say that after he got rich/famous enough and turned Hill Valley into really-lovely-Vegas he probably isn't using the almanac any more and just coasting off of existing wealth. Photograph logic fills the rest, even if he needs to make further bets it's a book published about the winners from 1950-2000.... and based on the way the newspapers and gravestones change in accordance to changes, book would change too. But what if you engendered a change so big that the almanac never got published??? Currently accepting bids on my BTTF 4 script, where Doc Brown going to 1991 and assassinating the publisher's assistant who championed the creation of Grey's Sports Almanac turns into a hellacious, yet jaunty roundabout through not one, not, two, not three, but eight decades. hmu
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Jul 12, 2020 04:00
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I’m not sure if someone consistently winning bets would change how sports are managed. Sports management and sports betting are the supposed to be separate and not intertwine. It’s always possible Biff finds himself up against Pete Rose, who throws a game or two because Tannen is screwing up the odds, but that’s going to have a limited impact on overall win/loss records. He would see pushback from bookies. He’d probably have to place bets under different names and if he screwed the oddsmakers enough then bad things would happen to him. I really liked BTTF part 2, but the scene where old Biff turns the radio to a live broadcast of an underdog winning a horse race is the most annoying example of that trope ever put on film.
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Jul 12, 2020 05:25
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postmodifier posted:Same logic still holds, if someone was winning crazy bets consistently on long-shot horses as opposed to maybe a handful of people betting chump change on the ocassional upset, it would drive massive inter-sport changes regarding jockeys, training, care, &c, &c to match those big-rear end winners. One thing that very few time travel stories address is the chaotic nature of human conception. Knock on Hitler’s parents’ door at the right time and nine months later, they have a daughter instead of a son. Whether or not anyone calling the shots in sports purposefully reacts to the betting, the ripple effects will show up on the roster in about twenty years. Of course, this violates the premise of the events of the Enchantment Under the Sea dance, so Back to the Future can be excused on this one. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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Jul 12, 2020 05:54
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Blue Moonlight posted:Not sure how film-accurate this script grab I found on Google is: Yeah but that’s Biff’s own version of story. There’s no reason to believe it’s any more accurate than Trump’s.
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Jul 12, 2020 05:55
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Platystemon posted:One thing that very few time travel stories address is the chaotic nature of human conception. "Anxiety is the Dizziness of Freedom", Ted Chiang, 2019
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Jul 12, 2020 06:25
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Platystemon posted:One thing that very few time travel stories address is the chaotic nature of human conception.
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Jul 12, 2020 06:37
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Krispy Wafer posted:I really liked BTTF part 2, but the scene where old Biff turns the radio to a live broadcast of an underdog winning a horse race is the most annoying example of that trope ever put on film. Football game. Or has the timeline been changed?
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Jul 12, 2020 17:33
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Platystemon posted:One thing that very few time travel stories address is the chaotic nature of human conception. It's not a great movie, but About Time addresses this. The main character goes back in time to help prevent his sister's drinking problem and - whoopsie! - when he comes back he has a son he doesn't recognize instead of his daughter.
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If you really want to scratch your head about bttf2, how do Marty and Jennifer see future versions of themselves when they've essentially been removed from the timeline for 30 years when they step into the time machine? Unless... The Doc picks them up and goes back in time 5 minutes, drops them off a block away, then races over to the 2nd set of Marty and Jennifer and takes them to see the future of their mildly inconvenienced doubles (which would explain why he's in a rush despite owning a time machine). Then all Doc has to do is drop them off at the same point in time, pick up the 1st set walking home and... dump their bodies in prehistoric times or something. Presumably he kidnapped a version of himself at some point to do the same thing, otherwise you can never see your own future, you've just been missing for all those years. Then you've got the issue of old Biff returning to the same future rather than a future forking from the Rich Biff timeline. Well... as we learn from the Doc, in the Rich Biff timeline he's committed before he can build the time machine in that universe. So logically old Biff can travel back to 1955 and set the Rich Biff timeline into motion, but once he tries to travel forwards from that point, the timeline collapses past the point in time where the time machine should have been invented and so he just ends up where he started. Doc, Marty and Jennifer are able to return to Rich Biff's 1985 because they're duplicates existing outside of this time bubble and can travel freely and they've brought a time machine to the collapse point, allowing it to continue past 1985. It all makes perfect sense if you just think about it.  Or it's just a fun movie and you shouldn't think too hard about it. Lizard Combatant fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jul 13, 2020 |
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