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godzilla 2014 doesnt have a single action sequence as good as rodan vs fighter jets
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I prefer the G'14 humans - I didnt find them bland at all and fit the entire movie. The grand scale of things in G'14 were infinitely better than KoTM which made the monsters feel small which is horrible. Kong Skull Island was great this way too giving us a ground up view and doing the fights better. I was so disappointed by KoTM - I tried my best to like it but it just never clicked at all for me.
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Jul 10, 2020 17:10
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My perfect Godzilla movie would be My Dinner With Andre with an all kaiju cast.
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Jul 10, 2020 19:40
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Hey, I can be in the discussion! Take all of this with a grain of salt because I've never seen any other Godzilla movie, they aren't really in my wheelhouse. I'd always been really interested in Edwards' Godzilla, ever since the HALO jump teaser, which I thought was stunning. Had a few chances to see it, but my wife and I would always opt for something else. Later, I was left reeling by the first trailer I saw for Kong: Skull Island (which, I believe, was actually cut by Vogt-Roberts himself) which just looked like a ton of fun. Also never got around to seeing it. Then, I thought the first King of the Monsters trailer was also gorgeous, specifically the Mothra wing spread moment and the music gave me chills. But, I never saw any of them until a few weeks ago, when I had a few days to myself and I finally gave Kong a watch, which got me hyped to go back and watch Godzilla, and then I watch KotM the next morning. I'm the weirdo who really liked Godzilla. I don't know if this is some "9/11 broke my brain forever" thing, but I love a movie that can convincingly create the helpless feeling of devastating violence happening around you, while you're powerless to influence it in any real way. I liked Cloverfield for the same reason (though I only saw it when it was new and don't know if it holds up at all), and it had a similarly impactful first teaser. I love all the moments of "our normal lives are suddenly put into this chaotic violence in our back yard" like the helicopters/tsunami in Hawaii, the powerless planes silently falling from the sky, etc. It really effectively has moments of held breath right before the violent release, and it was on a grand scale. I've seen complaints that the story of the humans was ultimately meaningless (though Taylor-Johnson does torch the MUTO eggs and prevent the nuking of SF, which I think is a good compromise of "hero KIND of saves the day") and that the major beats of the movie would have happened just the same without them. To me, though, that's actually a point FOR the movie. There's nothing we can do in the face of a subterranean god. Showing the events through those ground-level eyes contextualizes things for the audience in a way I find irresistible. I do think Aaron Taylor-Johnson was essentially a blank void of a performance, especially when paired with one of the most charismatic and engaging living actors, but what are you gonna do? Kong, on the other hand, brought a ton of fun, talented, and charismatic actors in, stuck them in archetypal roles, and had a ton of fun with it while also somehow remaining relatively grounded. It was fun without being a cartoon, and while it definitely had structural problems and bordered on silliness at times, I think it still managed to tell a human story through a "big monster" lens. Liking those two had me really hyped to see King of the Monsters, which is why I couldn't wait and watched it the next morning. King of the Monsters is a real fuckin' piece of poo poo. Everything I liked about Godzilla 2014 was thrown out the window. Our bland, white lead was replaced with... *drumroll* Kyle Chandler, halfway through his chrysalis into puffy Russell Crowe statue made out of wet paper. The terror of human technology being worthless in the face of elder gods is out the window, replaced by a globetrotting SHIELD jet plane, full of other future jet planes and space drones and submarines and whatever the gently caress else the overstuffed plot demands. It turns out we can not only defeat, but control these gods, because we made a suitcase that goes FWEEEEEEEEE. It rapidly devolves into a series of chases for MacGuffins, each less memorable than the last. Godzilla may have had some moments of gallows humor mixed into the dread, but KotM is stuffed to the gills with Thomas Middleditch Thomas Middleditching around and Bradley Whitford absolutely poisoning every scene with a performance that he claims, I poo poo you not, was inspired by Rick and Morty. Rather than view a huge event through a relatable lens, we're stuck watching a family squabble writ large with a global bodycount in the millions. I loathe when stories feel the need to Star Wars it up and make all the key players in a global conflict family members or old friends or the like. When Vera Farmiga hails the science war mothership to deliver her apocalyptic terrorist manifesto, there's an opportunity for some real poo poo. But it's all undercut by all the characters turning to Chandler and saying "yo that's your WIFE bro" and "bro i hope Kyle Chandler is ok, that's his FAMILY" and Kyle Chandler being like "i'm sad because my kid died, and my wife is also sad that my kid died, and we have processed this grief into wanting to destroy the monsters and destroy the world with the monsters respectively" There's a moment in the finale where Chandler and Farmiga reunite and try to locate their daughter who did the most heroic act in the franchise (she got a giant monster to destroy Fenway Park), and they can't think of where she might be. "Where could she be!?!?" they think, surrounded by piles of flaming rubble that could very easily conceal a dead 12-year-old, "She was Just Right Here staring down the most fearsome monster in the universe!!! Where could she be?!?!" And then they look at each other and simultaneously realize "....home!" and immediately drive off to their house to find her there. But I don't think it's ever established that they're from Boston in any way (other than the lead being a mediocre white man in a position of undeserved importance). In fact, the beginning of the movie shows them devastated in the rubble of San Francisco, having lost their son. What the gently caress is this beat. Anyway, KotM is a cartoon, and a wild tonal whiplash from the awe and reverence of 2014 Godzilla, and watching them on consecutive days is a strong NOT RECOMMEND.
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Jul 10, 2020 20:51
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Don't have much to add other than Skull Island has some of the best CG in recent memory. Goddamn some of those shots are stunningly gorgeous.
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Jul 10, 2020 20:59
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Thank you for putting into words what I could not - I am terrible when it comes to it. I am going to save that post. 
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Jul 10, 2020 21:00
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I was a huge kaiju fan as a kid and in fairness to Godzilla 2014 no movie could've lived up to the Oppenheimer teaser. Possibly the greatest trailer ever made.
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Jul 10, 2020 22:51
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It did live up to it though. Godzilla is pure terror in G14.
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Jul 10, 2020 23:29
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It did not. But again no movie could so I can't fault it for that.
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Jul 11, 2020 00:05
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BonoMan posted:Don't have much to add other than Skull Island has some of the best CG in recent memory. Goddamn some of those shots are stunningly gorgeous. Agreed. I’m not even a fan of Kong movies, or Godzilla movies, but I loving love Skull Island. I fell in love the moment Kong chucked that tree through a chopper, and I yelled out while laughing, “Holy poo poo,” alone in my living room. That is a movie that wastes no time, and lures you in with a Vietnam War flick before taking a massive tonal switch out of loving nowhere. I couldn’t stop talking about it for days after watching it. It’s wonderful.
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Jul 11, 2020 00:12
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Groovelord Neato posted:I was a huge kaiju fan as a kid and in fairness to Godzilla 2014 no movie could've lived up to the Oppenheimer teaser. Possibly the greatest trailer ever made. It's soooooooooooooooooooooooo loving good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVp3rV5ZrTI
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Jul 11, 2020 00:15
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Yeah I loved G14 and SKull Island and was super hype for King of Monsters. When reviews started trailing in I decided I could wait after all. Still haven't seen it.
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Jul 11, 2020 00:31
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Groovelord Neato posted:I was a huge kaiju fan as a kid and in fairness to Godzilla 2014 no movie could've lived up to the Oppenheimer teaser. Possibly the greatest trailer ever made. "Best trailer ever made" is a bit much, although it's certainly a better trailer than the movie is a movie. imo these are great trailers for great films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfHnykLOjH4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svVykTznk9Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrxHZDwLWn0
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Jul 11, 2020 02:01
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H A U N T E D P A N T S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzrgJ76m3RM
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Jul 11, 2020 02:21
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flashy_mcflash posted:H A U N T E D American Dad did this, and better
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Jul 11, 2020 02:25
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"From the Producers of Turbo Kid" Way to make me stop watching a trailer in the first 2 seconds.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:34
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In Fabric did it better and In Fabric was only just okay.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:45
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In Fabric was a great lesser Yorghos Lantimos movie, Slaxx looks stupid. Best trailers are the obligatory Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and also The Handmaiden but it cribs heavily from the former. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKWXEfXGWtA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whldChqCsYk
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Jul 11, 2020 04:08
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since we're talking about godzilla movies with good trailers this movie was v. good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgyq6YKeIms
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Jul 11, 2020 04:22
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Beaucoup Cuckoo posted:since we're talking about godzilla movies with good trailers So good
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Jul 11, 2020 09:13
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married but discreet posted:In Fabric was a great lesser Yorghos Lantimos movie, Slaxx looks stupid. The 'leak' of the Dragon Tattoo trailer was the best way to experience that.
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Jul 11, 2020 11:24
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I think the best teaser of the last few years is Cloverfield. Movie was okay but man, did it ever get bums in seats.
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Jul 11, 2020 13:44
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jet sanchEz posted:I think the best teaser of the last few years is Cloverfield. Movie was okay but man, did it ever get bums in seats. No title, no nothing, just a minute and a half of a party turning into insanity. The buzz on the web after that night (i think it premiered with the first JJ Star Trek movie?) was insane. I SAW IT, IT’S A LION, IT’S HUGE!
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Jul 11, 2020 14:03
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:No title, no nothing, just a minute and a half of a party turning into insanity. The buzz on the web after that night (i think it premiered with the first JJ Star Trek movie?) was insane. Considering Cloverfield came out a year before Trek 09, I’m pretty sure it must have been attached to something else.
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Jul 11, 2020 15:16
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According to https://cloverfield.fandom.com/wiki/1-18-08 , it was attached to Transformers, which probably led to the "i acquit" crowd swearing it would be a Voltron movie
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Jul 11, 2020 15:17
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I just remember that it made a lot of money for a January release and that there were signs all over the theatre warning people that Cloverfield should not be viewed by people who suffer from motion sickness. And while my friends and I were waiting in line, a 14 year old kid ran out of the theatre and puked all over the floor right by the popcorn line. And that both of my friends left the theatre about 40 minutes in but neither puked. I acutally liked the movie quite a bit at the time.
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Jul 11, 2020 15:35
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Yeah it was before Transformers, and I was instantly hooked. I followed that ARG for the entire 6 or 7 months until it premiered. It was all hosted on 01-18-08.com and would once in a while post a new photo. It was pretty crazy that basically most of that time until I'd say a week before it began, people still had no idea what it was. I still hope one day they do more with that first film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcckU9Yi7mc Tim Whatley fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Jul 11, 2020 |
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Jul 11, 2020 15:59
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It was a real ‘experience’ for me the first time in the theater, with the hand cam, the big screen, and the booming surround sound. I’m not sure I’ve experienced that level of immersion before or since. Only thing I wasn’t a big fan of was the close up on the monster’s head at the end.
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Jul 11, 2020 16:27
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Love that teaser. But if we're talking "loving" teasers this is the only teaser that made me weep when I saw it. Like openly crying in the theater that it was happening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-XoEGlvlp0
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Jul 11, 2020 16:36
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I still remember the audible gasp from the audience and electric feeling in a packed theater when the first shot of the alien ship hits in the District 9 teaser. Some guy in front of me was complaining about it being "another fuckin Iraq documentary" then yelled "holy poo poo!" when the saw the ship. Great film, but Sony also hit the marketing out of the park. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLUwOcR5pk
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Jul 11, 2020 16:52
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My favourite trailer, and consequently the best trailer, is absolutely this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDKHWRbK2_Q
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Jul 11, 2020 17:09
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wuffles posted:It was a real ‘experience’ for me the first time in the theater, with the hand cam, the big screen, and the booming surround sound. I’m not sure I’ve experienced that level of immersion before or since. Only thing I wasn’t a big fan of was the close up on the monster’s head at the end.
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Jul 11, 2020 17:29
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The Man of Steel trailer is the third-best Superman movie.
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Jul 11, 2020 17:54
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The first Rogue One trailer and the first Tomorrowland trailer are absolutely wonderful, and far better than the actual films.
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Jul 11, 2020 19:14
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Absolutely the same. It's an easily mocked film, but that first time i saw it (i hadnt seen any trailers about it and my friends dragged me to it opening night), well i was gripping my seat when that chopper started going down. I distinctly remember the trailer before Transformers and during the party scene, I remember rolling my eyes and thinking "God, not another rom-com." As soon as the roar and explosion hit, I was intrigued. When the "It's alive, it's huge!" hit, I thought Godzilla and then the Statue of Liberty head sealed the deal. It didn't have a name. It just had a date. I talked more about that trailer than I did about Transformers afterward. I followed the ARG to some extent before it came out but I was quite taken in by the original presentation. There were so many times they hinted the monster but it wasn't until the "military fights it before they run into the subway" that it really became something. By the end, where they use B-2s to bomb it and you really get a good look, I felt the movie had done its job in showcasing a monster film without overdoing it, then you get the close-up. Had they not done that part, I think it would have been perfect for what it was. I don't know if we'll see anything quite like it again.
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Jul 11, 2020 19:47
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I can't let this conversation go any further without mentioning the teaser The Master: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WTM8eO1Oec
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Jul 11, 2020 20:24
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The best way to experience the Tron 2 teaser was the lovely cam version with the crowd reaction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPGWYAUF3v4 And the actual teaser for it is one of the best sounds I’ve experienced in IMAX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9szn1QQfas
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Jul 11, 2020 20:30
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The Tron 2 teaser and trailer were just so good. If they're making a third one with Leto hopefully we get more Daft Punk goodness and pretty trailers out of it.BlueBayou posted:The first Rogue One trailer and the first Tomorrowland trailer are absolutely wonderful, and far better than the actual films. I was so disappointed with Tomorrowland because the trailers seemed to suggest something much heavier and more intelligent than what we got.
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Jul 11, 2020 22:43
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:It's soooooooooooooooooooooooo loving good Does anyone know what interview the Oppenheimer quote is from?
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PeterCat posted:Does anyone know what interview the Oppenheimer quote is from? Witnessing the first atomic bomb test.
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