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Edward Mass posted:The last 30 for 30 about hockey aired over five years ago, and that was about the Soviets who lost the Miracle on Ice. The total number of 30 for 30s specifically about NHL hockey is two. To put this in context there are as many Cycling 30 for 30's as NHL 30 for 30's lol
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clean ayers act posted:To put this in context there are as many Cycling 30 for 30's as NHL 30 for 30's lol If you want to get technical, there are as many Lance Armstrong 30 for 30s as NHL 30 for 30s.
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I’m less annoyed with which sport they pick but more the breadth of topics. The past few years have been so pedestrian. I thought their soccer stories series was really good that aired around the 2014 World Cup. Hillsborough was an obvious stand out.
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i remember when they all came out it was a big deal and i watched all of them and now i don't even know they're airing-- i completely missed the rodman one, which is absolutely something i'm interested in. in my opinion to two shittiest 30 for 30s are the USF one and the loving Kansas basketball rules guy, both documentaries centering on extremely annoying dudes.
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the 1986 mets are one of the most celebrated and popular teams of all time. everyone knows about them because sportswriters haven't shut up about them for 34 years. they're also probably not the team whose debauchery you really want to be celebrating in 2020. R.D. Mangles posted:in my opinion to two shittiest 30 for 30s are the USF one and the loving Kansas basketball rules guy, both documentaries centering on extremely annoying dudes. catholics vs. convicts was a two-hour verbal handjob of notre dame football corn on the cop fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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corn on the cop posted:the 1986 mets are one of the most celebrated and popular teams of all time. gently caress the '86 Mets, signed nine year old me who cried himself to sleep after Game 7.
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corn on the cop posted:catholics vs. convicts was a two-hour verbal handjob of notre dame football It was a nostalgic celebration of the time some kids made racist shirts
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Jul 12, 2020 06:26
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Someday you'll be young and you'll make a racially insensitive shirt, and you'll know the feeling they felt
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Y'all reminded me about Catholics V Convicts and now i'm mad that documentary got made.
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happy sunday yall. Please enjoy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. telling a good joke on the Tonight Show as you peruse today's live stuff.quote:Basketball
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corn on the cop posted:they're also probably not the team whose debauchery you really want to be celebrating in 2020. Would go out on a limb and guess that Cousin Sal is probably not going to tackle this part of it https://slate.com/culture/2020/01/mets-rape-accusation-spring-training-1991.html
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MourningView posted:Would go out on a limb and guess that Cousin Sal is probably not going to tackle this part of it i’d rather they ignore it than try to cover it in two minutes as a footnote between keith hernandez on seinfeld and the 96 yankees
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Jul 12, 2020 15:31
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soggybagel posted:I’m less annoyed with which sport they pick but Hillsborough should be recommended viewing for everyone, and it couldn't be shown in the UK for years due to the inquest
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I think the first run of docs in the 30 series were passion driven and they also reached out to some very accomplished filmmakers. They’ve now become by and larger perfunctory sports documentaries. I don’t think there’s one simple mandate that could fix things but for me, I either like exhaustively detailed docs (like Hillsborough) 94 fun docs like The U. There’s room for everything too. June 17, 1994 played with the form a bit and I loved it. There’s so much room for interesting takes but they’ve really kind of fallen into form for your typical talking head doc. And if that’s the case, don’t bore me with overlong poo poo. Both the Lance one and the Home run chase were way too long.
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I thought that weird spoken word one about Tyson and Tupac was the worst
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Whole bunch of soccer for your Mondayquote:Baseball
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soggybagel posted:I think the first run of docs in the 30 series were passion driven and they also reached out to some very accomplished filmmakers. Pretty much correct about the history of it. 30 for 30 began just as a series of documentaries for ESPN’s 30th anniversary covering events during those years. The early ones were clearly a bit more passion projects by the people behind them with some of the subjects. They proved to be so successful they continued to do more under the 30 for 30 banner. This wasn’t a bad thing, as to name a few that stood out to me, You Don’t Know Bo, Elway to Marino, and The U Part 2 came from the second run, while Four Falls of Buffalo and the okay XFL one came from the third, plus the whole O.J.: Made in America by itself. But, there’s a pretty solid case for an overall drop in quality as they going, and at this point 30 for 30 might as well be the generic name for ESPN documentaries, so I can’t think of the last time they did one of note under any other.
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They do seem to still run some under the "E:60" banner every so often but yeah
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Jul 13, 2020 13:19
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Some NHL/hockey ones that could make compelling stories Bill Masterton dying on ice during a game Graham James and the serial abuse he committed against several of his players Clint Malarchuk and what his infamous injury did to him mentally Gordie Howe's insanely long career The Eric Lindros trade Mario Lemieux saving Penguins hockey twice Pavel Bure and how electrifying he was The Vancouver riot
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Some NHL/hockey ones that could make compelling stories Sergei Fedorov's defection.
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Gabe Polsky seems to have the USSR hockey documentary world on lock, his stuff has been great and I really need to see "Red Penguins"
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DJExile posted:Gabe Polsky seems to have the USSR hockey documentary world on lock, his stuff has been great and I really need to see "Red Penguins" Polsky has done a lot with the USSR guys, but some Michigan filmmakers did The Russian Five. Sergei has options to work with.
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AsInHowe posted:Sergei Fedorov's defection. In terms of the level of deception the team had to undertake, Konstantinov's was even more wild.
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howe_sam posted:In terms of the level of deception the team had to undertake, Konstantinov's was even more wild. Yeah Konstantinov's story alone would be some fantastic watching.
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this sounds unsurprising https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1282650998947938305
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Some NHL/hockey ones that could make compelling stories They sort of already did this one. Like 5+ years ago, they did a series of very short episodes (like 10 minute videos) on some topics, and I remember Malarchuk being one of them.
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I would really love a documentary about Nike’s partnership with Weiden+Kennedy. They’ve literally defined athletes images and really outside of a handful of individual plays in games are some of the most defining images of players from my youth. Like Deion Sanders highstepping into the end zone is match with Dennis Hopper screaming about Deion’s shoe as the paranoid ref.
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Edward Mass posted:If you want to get technical, there are as many Lance Armstrong 30 for 30s as NHL 30 for 30s. Slaying the Badger wasn't an Armstrong one (it was good though it was mainly a standard doc)
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Slaying the Badger wasn't an Armstrong one (it was good though it was mainly a standard doc) Lance was a two-parter is what I was saying.
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AsInHowe posted:Sergei Fedorov's defection. Problem with this is that "The Russian 5" basically already covered that ground. The Wings-Avs rivalry of the 90's-early 2000's would be pretty good. Feels Villeneuve posted:Slaying the Badger wasn't an Armstrong one (it was good though it was mainly a standard doc) The book is so much better than the documentary... i was disappointed although i understand they had to make it palatable to non-cycling fans
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soggybagel posted:I would really love a documentary about Nike’s partnership with Weiden+Kennedy. They’ve literally defined athletes images and really outside of a handful of individual plays in games are some of the most defining images of players from my youth. Like Deion Sanders highstepping into the end zone is match with Dennis Hopper screaming about Deion’s shoe as the paranoid ref. That sounds Portland as gently caress.
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Punchmans, soccer, team tennis, and the championship of The Basketball Tournament.quote:Baseball
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clean ayers act posted:The book is so much better than the documentary... i was disappointed although i understand they had to make it palatable to non-cycling fans Yeah, the book is great. Probably the oddest part is where the La Vie Claire DS comes off as some kind of villain in the documentary but is a much more interesting character in the book. Not sure if it was intended. It was worth it to see the old footage and the in-person interviews of Hinault and Andy Hampsten, though. That run of TDFs just prior to EPO exploding was incredible, though. 1987 isn't as famous as '86 or '89 (outside of Ireland), but it's probably my pick for the most exciting Tour ever. Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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according to lebatard highly questionable is moving to 2:30 pm
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Yeah, the book is great. Probably the oddest part is where the La Vie Claire DS comes off as some kind of villain in the documentary but is a much more interesting character in the book. Not sure if it was intended. I loved Hampsten recounting his very brief thought of winning the tour before going "ahhh, nope"
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Two Serie A games on ESPN, mid-week NASCAR, an exhibition Skins game for Nationwide Children's Hospital on Golf channel, and more Fight Island!quote:Australian Rules Football
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also every premier league game going on right now is available for free on peacock as a way to boost awareness on its first day
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They also announced that starting with next season, Premier League Gold is gone and all non TV games will air on Peacock Premium
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World Cup broadcast schedule's going to be brutal for anyone watching in the states https://twitter.com/FIFAWorldCup/status/1283373744363315201 AA posted:The group stage matches will start at 13:00, 16:00, 19:00, and 22:00 local time, while the Round of 16 and quarterfinals begin at 18:00 and 22:00 local. The semis start at 22:00, and both the third place game and final begin at 18:00. None of that seems too crazy, until you take the time change into account. They'll probably feel less conflicted about it when the USMNT doesn't qualify but hoo boy
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