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Ratjaculation posted:finally a topic i actually know stuff about I'm honestly interested because having children/not having children has both negative and positive effects and I'd like to hear it from someone who's balanced and knows what they are talking about without it devolving into a promotion for eugenics. cat snipe: 
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fridge corn posted:Me. I do ur a qt
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Jul 15, 2020 16:07
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Overpopulation is an issue that needs discussing, but so overconsumption is one that does too - and the latter can be addressed quickly, as opposed to increasing education standards, women's rights and access to contraceptive in developing countries for the former which will take generations. Ageing population is an issue that is going to affect almost every developed nation in the next 30 years, but luckily we have the pleasure of witnessing a fantastic case study occurring now in China. It's previous One Child Policy is about to have the effect of having half the population as elderly.  This data is 10 years old, so bump it up a chunk and those massive population blobs are now on the verge of being old fucks. I don't doubt that China will do something barbaric to try and address the issue, though. Luckily, we live in a But, if you enjoy eugenics and want to address overpopulation quickly, one American is worth about 15 people from the DRC, so you could save buckets on sharpening the guillotine.
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Jul 15, 2020 16:10
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hemale in pain posted:it was trying to make it sound like a bad thing because there won't be enough young people to look after all the old people lmao What's contentious about this, it's aging demographics 101
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Jul 15, 2020 16:18
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im the male surplus
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Jul 15, 2020 16:19
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It'll change a bit if the Hindu nationalists decide they want to try and outbreed the rest of South Asia. They're pushing pretty hard on the "don't let the Muslims outnumber us" angle that has been popular in the west recently.
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Natalie Fartman posted:I'm honestly interested because having children/not having children has both negative and positive effects and I'd like to hear it from someone who's balanced and knows what they are talking about without it devolving into a promotion for eugenics. Any child brought into the world is going to have to address problems as adults that we can't even fathom to copy a previous post: - Soil degradation: much of the UK's soil can only support around another 60 harvests (we largely harvest twice a year) - Sea level rise: the current ice-loss rate in Antarctica is unpresidented and beyond sciences worst nightmare 10 years ago - Land change: globally an area about half of the UK is lost to desertifcation each year now, with worsening droughts and the stuff happening in Australia, we're losing land faster than ever. By 2050 the UN estimate there could be as many as a billion climate refugees. - Crops: Many crops only have a few degrees of variation before they fail, so with climate change that's hosed. Also systematically changing agricultural systems for new crops takes years. - Crops (again): We use very few varieties, so very vulnerable to disease - Biodiversity: We are in an extinction event, likely faster than any in history (including the K-T event), we need to quell this yesterday, we need to preserve and increase wild areas. A global ecological cascade will destroy systems we rely on, and many will perish. - And a hundred other things That said, these problems need to be addressed, and ultimately children will have the answer. If you want your own child; that's grand, if you want to adopt; great, if you want to find a child in a hotel room in portugal; fab! I'll never understand psuedo-smart childfree fucks snubbing someone for wanting to start a family. And if people think that only smart people can raise smart kids, then they can gently caress off too.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:im the male surplus tinder in china must be a blast
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Ratjaculation posted:tinder in china must be a blast Surely whatever grindr equivalent
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Jul 15, 2020 16:48
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If video games have taught me anything Boris Johnson just needs to link the fire again and begin the cycle anew.
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Jul 15, 2020 16:52
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Lay back and think of Brexit.
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arsenal gear was right
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Natalie Fartman posted:I'm honestly interested because having children/not having children has both negative and positive effects and I'd like to hear it from someone who's balanced and knows what they are talking about without it devolving into a promotion for eugenics. I love my child, he is the greatest thing I have ever done with my life, also I dislike my child he has ruined my life and is more work that you could possibly imagine. There you go!
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Ratjaculation posted:tinder in china must be a blast If they could only get some of the 20-40 male surplus to match with the 70-100 female surplus
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Horace posted:If they could only get some of the 20-40 male surplus to match with the 70-100 female surplus jose, you're in
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Jul 15, 2020 17:54
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My sister had the most beautiful girl 6 months ago and I would take a full mag of bullets for her but, by god, my sisters life right now (she is a sharer) is basically my nightmare. Thanks to coming my Tedtalk.
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Dravs posted:I love my child, he is the greatest thing I have ever done with my life, also I dislike my child he has ruined my life and is more work that you could possibly imagine. (pauses while trying to persuade a toddler to take even one bite of his dinner) It's true
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Jul 15, 2020 18:01
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Small children are basically a fungus.
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looking forward to a post itt referring to 'crotch spawn' unironically
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Jul 15, 2020 18:16
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Genuinely would love to hear the arguments about why not having kids is a bad thing, particularly when everyone I know with them constantly moans about them.
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Jul 15, 2020 18:16
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They grow rapidly and are frequently found in damp locations with piles of dung.
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Jul 15, 2020 18:18
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My sister had a friend who would refer to children as 'gently caress trophies' They are no longer friends
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Jul 15, 2020 18:25
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Sudden Javelin posted:My sister had a friend who would refer to children as 'gently caress trophies' Sounds like your sister has no sense of humour.  
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Jul 15, 2020 18:35
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Genuinely would love to hear the arguments about why not having kids is a bad thing, particularly when everyone I know with them constantly moans about them. People moan about their kids because that is slightly more acceptable than saying how amazing they are all the time. However, people who only talk about their kids in any context are obnoxious and the worst. my daughter read the word "happy" completely unprompted this morning and it is not possible to describe the amazing feeling that gave my neanderthal brain
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Jul 15, 2020 18:37
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have kids if you want dont have kids if you dont want you do not need to belittle the people who chose the other thing to make your choice stronger
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Jul 15, 2020 18:40
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ratty speak to me more of our dying world 
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Genuinely would love to hear the arguments about why not having kids is a bad thing, particularly when everyone I know with them constantly moans about them. On a personal level? It isn't a bad thing. If you don't want kids you absolutely should not have them because they're expensive, time consuming and frequently very frustrating On a societal level an aging population is difficult to deal with so it's not a bad idea to have at least some people having kids. I guarantee that for every horror story your friends with kids have there's multiple heartwarming ones, it's just that "he poo poo on my arm at 3am" is more easily expressed than "he gets excited about the coffee grinder and does a special dance when I use it".
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We decided to solve global hunger by overclocking the soil and now our water cooling system is leaky, the power keeps surging and the capacitors are letting out too much magic smoke.
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Jul 15, 2020 18:49
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bring more life into the hellish maelstrom. yes. yes!!
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Butterfly Valley posted:What's contentious about this, it's aging demographics 101 nothing. i just gonna go out and say that less people is very good even if it means old people (us and our children) are gonna be a burden. and i don't mean that in a huuugely lame emo i hate everyone way but in a i'm geniunely worried about the future of humanity/ the environment/the world if we carry on like we were. i dunno if i'll live to see it but it'll also be very funny seeing the uk begging for more immigrants to come here
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I read that article and the global population rapidly declining after 2100 seems like a good thing to me?  A worry I have with Covid is that things aren't ever going to go back to 'normal': we're going to get hit with one drat thing after another and life is just going to spiral downwards relentlessly from now on.
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Another part of me is resolutely hoping I'll be back in the pub soon, reminiscing about: "that Covid business" and carefully ignoring any climate-related stories in the papers.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I read that article and the global population rapidly declining after 2100 seems like a good thing to me? ohh after 2100? so our children's children
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Yes! Now we're talking. technically there's no reason I can't wear a La Parka mask to tescos
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I have a La Parka mask, there's mouth and nose cutouts so sadly not suitable.
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hemale in pain posted:ohh after 2100? so our children's children And us. In our bathchairs out on the artificial lawn under the shade of parosols to keep us from getting any more cancers, as the carebots try and encourage us to have a little sing along with some classical grime music or enjoy a rerun of Lovejoy.
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Jul 15, 2020 19:23
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i want ratty to effort post all over me
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ladyrat and myself are quite happy with no children for now, not to say it won't change in the future but we're def not financially in a place to have a child at the moment. Maybe i'll adopt thread poster no_one in a few years its the same with pets, i want a dog but can't get one if i want to move across the world this makes me sad e: also i now want to buy a yacht and try and remember how to sail Looke posted:i want ratty to effort post all over me don't compare the volume of my effort post to those people post in the ukmt because it probably couldn't produce kids anyway 
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Jul 15, 2020 19:31
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i want to get a boat as well lets run away together and explore the seven seas
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Looke posted:i want to get a boat as well yes! more boat talk! something like this for me (if i had £13,000 and a way to get it from the states) https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1970/morgan-34-3205765/ whats your flavour for our fleet?
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