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To be honest I'd join Cerberus. Humans first!
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IIRC the big difference from the books and the show is height, 'cause Naomi is supposed to be like 6'5" on account of growing up in space but there just aren't that many 6'5" actresses out there Bobbie's also supposed to be noticeably larger but Frankie Adams looks like she could beat the poo poo out of anyone so you barely notice
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Jul 16, 2020 18:50
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Yeah, I feel like a lot of the descriptions refer not necessarily to base skin tone but to sun exposure. You can be naturally dark skinned but still have it be "paler" based on sun exposure and such. So I always assumed someone with pale skin simply meant they lived inside with only artificial light. You can be dark skinned, but still pale, or paler. Same applies for redness, its much more prominent in white skinned people, but you can still see it in people with very dark skin.
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Jul 16, 2020 19:20
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Daniel Radcliffe confirmed as the new Alex! https://twitter.com/JamesSACorey/status/1283823006922375168?s=19
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Jul 16, 2020 19:22
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Daniel Radcliffe really does play an excellent weirdo so I am unironically on board.
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Jul 16, 2020 19:29
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Time to goonrush twitter to make them offer him a role?
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Jul 16, 2020 19:33
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Daniel Radcliffe had a wonderfully self-aware guest role on Bojack Horseman, second only to Jessica Biel ("B-list?" "No, Biel-ist. Like Jessica Biel!" "... I feel like we're saying the same thing."). It sucks that he's had his struggles with addiction during his time in the public eye, but it's great that he's at a point now where he only takes on passion projects. Can't say I really see how he'd fit into an Expanse role, but it'd be a welcome appearance.
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Haven't read any of the books and awful at reading english, so bear with me please. The books use 'white skin' exactly once, and it's describing Amos' neck specifically (so that reads like something they forgot to edit out.) In every other circumstance, a character is either 'pale-skinned' or 'dark-skinned.' Dark-skinned characters are often also equated to 'deep brown' which is the go-to phrase of the authors when describing darker skin tones. A lot of 'pale-skinned' characters have red or blonde hair. In English writing, it's generally seen as bad form to say 'white-skinned' or 'black-skinned' because it's inaccurate unless the character is, like, an albino or a Drow. The only descriptions we seem to get of Holden's physicality at all are in the first two books, where he's described by himself and Miller as 'pale-skinned' and Holden considers himself having the looks of a 'Montana farm boy' and otherwise being 'generic' in the face of someone like Naomi, who is mixed-race. He's never clearly described as white, and the only person who is is Amos - is Amos the only white guy in the future? And, for the most part, Amos is described as 'pale-skinned.' The tweet chain that one came from is interesting because the Corey boys say that people thought Amos was black. But Amos is clearly described as having red hair in the books, so, that's more a fault of people not paying attention. But you can see why people think that, given that, in the novels, ethnicity is often equated directly with location in a form of shorthand, and Baltimore - in 2020 - is predominantly black. Sometimes, the authors get around it by having Holden think something like 'Whenever Holden saw Alex, he was always surprised he didn't have a Punjabi accent' which is, uh... 3.6 roentgens. Not great but not terrible. In the books, we don't get much information on Holden's family at all. Just about all the information we get is: he grew up in Montana, he has eight parents and here are their names, he was a genetic mix of all eight of them. So, I think we can presume that he's a mix of them all equally. So, if Holden has eight parents - one African, one Hispanic - and the rest of them are white, then I'd wager Holden would be more 'pale' than 'dark.' That's not even mentioning that there's a wide-range of skin tones across African and Hispanic ethnicities - like, not all Africans are Sudanese dark and not all Hispanic people are swarthy. More to the point, I don't buy that Holden - if he grew up with such a cosmopolitan family - would be so weirded out by Naomi's African/Asian mixed features. In the first novel, he only starts considering her attractive when he's drunk! Otherwise, he thinks that she's weird looking (and it's not related to her Belter features, which he rarely - if ever - mentions.)
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Yeah, The Expanse is fairly diverse for a work of fiction written by a bunch of white guys, and the casting is deliberately made as diverse as can be filmed in Toronto (pretty good in fact!). Alot of modern sci fi trends towards these kinds of diverse casts of characters because it's a logical extrapolation of global trends. If anything, it's Hollywood that has serious issues with diversity. A good example in my mind is Interstellar: a story about grand sweeping themes of human endeavour, and it casts almost exclusively white, and it's obsessed with using imagery from the US heartland. There is like a single mention of India, a single mention of China, and that's pretty much it. Interstellar completely bucks modern sci fi trends, and not in a good way.
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Jul 17, 2020 11:50
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Well it was made by boomers and gen xers, what do you expect?
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Phobophilia posted:Yeah, The Expanse is fairly diverse for a work of fiction written by a bunch of white guys, and the casting is deliberately made as diverse as can be filmed in Toronto (pretty good in fact!). Alot of modern sci fi trends towards these kinds of diverse casts of characters because it's a logical extrapolation of global trends. If anything, it's Hollywood that has serious issues with diversity. Interstellar also decided to make up some bullshit pan-crop epidemic instead of focusing on the real existential threat of climate change (why does it matter if you get off of Earth if all of the crops have already been infected or gone extinct from this thing?)...not related but boy that was a dumb movie.
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Interstellar is a dumb movie that's that's trying really hard to pretend that it's clever.
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Interstellar was 100% banking on the combination of "oh my god Christopher Nolan!" and "the black hole effect is supposed to be the most realistic one ever!" and that made for a visually interesting but dramatically horrible film.
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Jul 18, 2020 02:22
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Don't forget the superb robot.
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Kazinsal posted:Interstellar was 100% banking on the combination of "oh my god Christopher Nolan!" and "the black hole effect is supposed to be the most realistic one ever!" and that made for a visually interesting but dramatically horrible film. Also insane space Matt Damon gets horribly killed.
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Jul 18, 2020 02:32
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It was pretty entertaining even if it was dumb. If you want to see both dumb and unentertaining sci-fi, watch Ad Astra.
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Yeah Interstellar had some really cool sequences but was also just incredibly dumb
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Love Zimmer's soundtrack for Interstellar though. The sequence of the spaceship docking with the spinning station was cool as hell. Giant tidal wave planet was very memorable too. Ice planet was less visually interesting as was desert planet. So, we're just missing the rpg jungle planet. But yeah the drama is... Less good than the actual space set pieces.
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Interstellar had an amazing soundtrack, this is one piece I end up listening to several times a year. But I would argue that Interstellar is one of those films that isn't as much trying to be sci-fi, but more uses sci-fi to tell a story. Like the original Star Trek series- it wasn't really about a bunch of people flying around in the 23rd century, it was using sci-fi as a platform to explore modern society (well the 1960's, which was modern at the time).
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Then it's annoying that they kept trotting out Neil Degrasse Tyson and Bill Nye and Kip Thorne all over the interview circuits pimping the movie. Nope, it all comes down to Anne Hathaway crying for her boyfriend.
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How was Matthew McConaughey's character supposed to find Anne Hathaway at the end of the movie, the wormhole appeared to be gone and with no means to get a fix on her position relative to Earth I'm not sure where the hell he thought he was going I mean I really like parts of the movie and the general idea is super cool don't get me wrong. Ad Astra was way worse.
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Tighclops posted:How was Matthew McConaughey's character supposed to find Anne Hathaway at the end of the movie, the wormhole appeared to be gone and with no means to get a fix on her position relative to Earth I'm not sure where the hell he thought he was going Well, they were in the system for a bit, and probably took a lot of readings of the main stars as well as the constellations visible from that point, so its a matter of a lot of math and computer stuff to compare them to readings we get on Earth.
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"oh hey guys this is going to be a super realistic scifi" *takes off on a random saturn v rocket* *lands on a planet with a gravitational pull so hard it warps space time .. takes back off with no fuel issues*
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Mu Zeta posted:Then it's annoying that they kept trotting out Neil Degrasse Tyson and Bill Nye and Kip Thorne all over the interview circuits pimping the movie. Nope, it all comes down to Anne Hathaway crying for her boyfriend. At least it isn't as bad as Ad Astra. Guy kills a whole crew so he can tell his dad that they are both pieces of poo poo and then more people die or something. That movie sucked rear end way more than Interstellar.
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WilWheaton posted:"oh hey guys this is going to be a super realistic scifi" Eh, that wasn't from the planet's gravity, but rather their proximity to the black hole. What got me was the whole "transmitting all of the data about the inside of a black hole through morse code" thing at the end. Like, come on.
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Interstellar had an amazing soundtrack, this is one piece I end up listening to several times a year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCSH_ZdnEUM Mu Zeta posted:To be honest I'd join Cerberus. Humans first! Part of being of recruiting for a evil organization is making sure to have sexy space uniforms. etalian fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Jul 18, 2020 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Eh, that wasn't from the planet's gravity, but rather their proximity to the black hole. Was that was happening? I thought he was just getting a quick message across so should would realize he was there. From there it sparked the inspiration for the work she did about black holes.
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etalian posted:Part of being of recruiting for a evil organization is making sure to have sexy space uniforms. If you're some desk jockey and getting flabby do you still have to wear the skintight bodysuit?
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Cojawfee posted:At least it isn't as bad as Ad Astra. Guy kills a whole crew so he can tell his dad that they are both pieces of poo poo and then more people die or something. That movie sucked rear end way more than Interstellar. Ad Astra had a Space Monkey. so better.
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this is the worst offseason
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Phi230 posted:this is the worst offseason At least everybody's done fantasizing how best to kill Alex off...
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Still waiting on the replacement tourney bracket.
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If we need more suggestions to fill it out: Thor from Stargate That robot head thing from Lexx Ascendant Traveller Wesley Crusher
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Organic Lube User posted:Ascendant Traveller Wesley Crusher Every time he showed up in Dark Matter I wanted to punch him in the face. He's got a knack for playing that kind of character.
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Saul tigh Colonel McQueen from space above and beyond
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Kazinsal posted:Every time he showed up in Dark Matter I wanted to punch him in the face. I just was beginning an attempt at watching Dark Matter but didn't realize he was in it. Gonna save me a lot of time, thanks.
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Interstellar tried to trick everyone into thinking it was a spiritual successor to Kubrick's 2001, but it just ended up being a nonsensical facsimile. It did make a fun meme, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6CuNsHK7D4 Cojawfee posted:At least it isn't as bad as Ad Astra. Guy kills a whole crew so he can tell his dad that they are both pieces of poo poo and then more people die or something. That movie sucked rear end way more than Interstellar. I really wanted to like this movie, but all I can remember about it now is Brad Pitt floating through space, narrating "what is the point? When will this all end" or something like that and I burst out laughing because that's what I was thinking about the movie. Organic Lube User posted:I just was beginning an attempt at watching Dark Matter but didn't realize he was in it. Gonna save me a lot of time, thanks. Dark Matter is a good, fun show. 
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Organic Lube User posted:I just was beginning an attempt at watching Dark Matter but didn't realize he was in it. Gonna save me a lot of time, thanks. He only shows up a couple of times. You should still watch Dark Matter.
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I was gonna watch Ad Astra then i saw a trailer where they had space pirates on the moon...in like...the fuckin rover buggies..and i decided to do something more productive with my time.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Was that was happening? I thought he was just getting a quick message across so should would realize he was there. From there it sparked the inspiration for the work she did about black holes. Yeah the whole thing was that if they had the data, they'd be able to solve the Grand Unified Theory and be able to do wormhole travel on a mass scale, or something like that. Which would mean that they'd be able to save people on Earth instead of leaving them to die and seeding other planets. It's a good enough movie as long as you don't think about it very much.
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