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Goddamn that's egregious. Completely rotten from the top to the bottom, and the article suggests their recent layoffs are as much a response to the scandal as they are clearing out weak performers, since recent titles have been poorly received. They're filling the vacant positions with other friends and family who are probably just as vile.
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I do have to thank jim sterling with money for this one soon. This was hard to get through and I think his best stuff often is, but loving hell, the callousness they're trying to shrug this off with because IT GAME SEASON is egregious. gently caress everything related to Ubisoft forever, goddamn.
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Jul 21, 2020 14:31
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Might be time to put ubisoft on my blacklist with Blizzard/Activison. AC Valhalla isnt worth this.
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Jul 21, 2020 14:33
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As soon as the HR department was implicated I knew something was rotten in Montreal. just tear it all down. that is a bracing video. I think the games industry is ripe for a total meltdown because I refuse to believe this isn't the whole industry.
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Jul 21, 2020 14:37
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I’d be more shocked if Ubisoft’s poisonous culture wasn’t the norm at other big studios and publishers.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:01
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I said come in! posted:Might be time to put ubisoft on my blacklist with Blizzard/Activison. AC Valhalla isnt worth this.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:11
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It also tracks with my experiences dealing with large French companies. Their business culture has been due for a reckoning for a long, long time in terms of sexism. It's like shockingly blatant. The last time I had a French client what stood out most was the dinner where one manager started to loudly talk about how he wanted to have sex with certain subordinates (who were sitting right next to him). When a lot of people started to look real uncomfortable he then switched to "What? You North Americans are such prudes. There's no sexual harassment laws in France!" Which based on a cursory read I did at the time, thanks to some legal technicalities getting laws thrown out, when it happened he was technically correct.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:15
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So just from a theoretical point of view, how do you fix this except by firing everyone who has the smallest piece of authority or rank and restarting the company from scratch?
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Jul 21, 2020 15:18
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Skippy McPants posted:I’d be more shocked if Ubisoft’s poisonous culture wasn’t the norm at other big studios and publishers. At least we know nobody would dare try to pass out weed-cakes at any of the Japanese companies. That poo poo gets you unpersoned faster than anything else.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:20
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double nine posted:So just from a theoretical point of view, how do you fix this except by firing everyone who has the smallest piece of authority or rank and restarting the company from scratch?
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Jul 21, 2020 15:24
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double nine posted:So just from a theoretical point of view, how do you fix this except by firing everyone who has the smallest piece of authority or rank and restarting the company from scratch? Basically that. You need to have the leadership all piss off, replace them wherever possible with women and POC from the ranks, and then set requirements for future promotion and advancement that are based on performance metrics and reviews instead of just letting managers elevate their drinking buddies. Also never again let a husband/wife team act as management and HR, jesus loving christ why would you do that. What they'll actually do: fire a couple sacrificial pawns (check), shuffle a few other people around (check), make a big show of hiring an outside party to make "recommendations" that you swear will definitely be implemented sometime during the next fiscal year (in progress), hope that no one follows up to see if you actually did anything (fingers crossed!).
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Jul 21, 2020 15:26
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You know given what Ubisoft is like I'm pretty sure good performance in anything approaching a management position definitely indicates that you're also a monster, so elevating people from there would not help. Fire every single person who had authority over anyone else.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:41
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:When a lot of people started to look real uncomfortable he then switched to "What? You North Americans are such prudes. There's no sexual harassment laws in France!" e: Given that Ubisoft upper management are literally a band of brothers, there's no way to salvage it.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:50
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double nine posted:So just from a theoretical point of view, how do you fix this except by firing everyone who has the smallest piece of authority or rank and restarting the company from scratch? Liquidate the parent company, divest all the studios and BURN EVERYTHING TO THE gently caress GROUND! Seriously, fire the entire upper management and hire people who knows what "Ethics" mean.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:58
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Skippy McPants posted:I’d be more shocked if Ubisoft’s poisonous culture wasn’t the norm at other big studios and publishers. oh i am sure its somehow worse in other places.
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Mega Comrade posted:and carbon monoxide poisoning What the literal gently caress
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Jul 21, 2020 16:03
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to elaborate the talented developers leave and start their own company the leadership team and HR is blacklisted from the industry consumers live without AAA games from the Ubisoft name
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Jul 21, 2020 16:04
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Famethrowa posted:to elaborate IE, it's never, ever going to happen so just don't support the companies you don't like since that really is all you can do.
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Jul 21, 2020 16:25
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Arsenic Lupin posted:That's been the French line on sexual harassment since the '90s. "You Americans are such prudes, flirtation is the spice of life!" You hear the same poo poo from Americans, with the whole "You mean I can't tell a girl at work she's pretty?" Don't get me wrong the latter is also real bad but it takes a certain level of "I can do what I want and nothing is going to happen to me" to go on a gross tirade that starts with "The only person I want to have sex with in the office is <XYZ>" while she is sitting next to you and her boss is the next chair over. Incidentally we found out the next year that the woman in question decided to quit the field entirely and move to the opposite end of France. Gee, I wonder why?
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Jul 21, 2020 16:26
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https://twitter.com/mariejasmin_/status/1285565180097761281 Read the thread.
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Jul 21, 2020 16:42
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Lol when AssCreed Unity was announced with four player co-op, all guys, and people asked 'why no playable women' their response was 'uhhh animations too hard'
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Jul 21, 2020 16:45
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Acerbatus posted:IE, it's never, ever going to happen so just don't support the companies you don't like since that really is all you can do. p much. other then a personal boycott, the only other materially effective options I can think of are 1. believe victims and 2. donate to legal funds of victims if and when they take these fuckers to court.
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I remember that. The developers for Shadow of Mordor hot patched in a freeplay mode that literally just body swaps the male main character with a female character who wasn’t going to be playable as a response. It just used the main character’s animation. That game (and the AAA company it came from) has its own issues, but I will always remember that quick slap at Ubisoft they put out.
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Famethrowa posted:p much. other then a personal boycott, the only other materially effective options I can think of are 1. believe victims and 2. donate to legal funds of victims if and when they take these fuckers to court. Also might I add that one other helpful thing is to ✨support unionisation✨ in the games industry, because strong unions can hold corporate feet to the fire over issues like this and also support victims of workplace harassment.
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Jul 21, 2020 17:02
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Sakurazuka posted:Lol when AssCreed Unity was announced with four player co-op, all guys, and people asked 'why no playable women' their response was 'uhhh animations too hard' Oh gently caress, the cunts from Escape from Tarkov said the same thing when some asked about it. So loving sad. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games
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Jul 21, 2020 17:13
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Sakurazuka posted:Lol when AssCreed Unity was announced with four player co-op, all guys, and people asked 'why no playable women' their response was 'uhhh animations too hard' loving lmao I remember this, and then players pointed out that playable women characters in multiplayer in past AC games was a thing, as were countless women NPCs. To top it all off, it was discovered that both male and women models used the exact same animation skeleton, so UBISoft was straight up lying.
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Jul 21, 2020 17:17
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Sakurazuka posted:Lol when AssCreed Unity was announced with four player co-op, all guys, and people asked 'why no playable women' their response was 'uhhh animations too hard' apparently the dude who said that was one of the sex monsters.
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RagnarokZ posted:Oh gently caress, the cunts from Escape from Tarkov said the same thing when some asked about it. They also gave some weird "but realism!" excuse as well.
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Not that Beyond Good and Evil 2 will ever come out, or that there would even be much hype for the game in the future but it sure puts a damper on the current incarnation knowing that it's a "You create your own character!" deal instead of it just being a game where you getting to play as Jade again because the lesson they took from the sales reception to the first BG&E was that she can't headline games. And not the fact that they released the game in not only an extremely busy holiday season in 2003, but they released the game within a week or so as their OTHER big marquee title at the time. Sands of Time.
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Viewtiful Jew posted:Not that Beyond Good and Evil 2 will ever come out, or that there would even be much hype for the game in the future but it sure puts a damper on the current incarnation knowing that it's a "You create your own character!" deal instead of it just being a game where you getting to play as Jade again because the lesson they took from the sales reception to the first BG&E was that she can't headline games. that seems to be the ubisoft model right now. vahallah is doing it and probably next AC game. legion legit lets you play as anyone and beyond good and evile seems to be Monster maker dream game. choosable protag seems to be the current trend in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGBrGqXILgM&t
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Was Ubisoft also the company that didn't want to add women as playable characters because adding different animations was an insurmountable task no human could achieve e: Already answered lol
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Sakurazuka posted:Lol when AssCreed Unity was announced with four player co-op, all guys, and people asked 'why no playable women' their response was 'uhhh animations too hard' What's extra weird about this is that, in Unity's multiplayer, you're always Arno, the main character from the story mode. You see other players as other Assassins, but they always see themselves as Arno and see you as another Assassin. They could've just said "the multiplayer stories are written for the player to be Arno, so we don't have any character customization beyond what's in the main game" and it would've at least been a more understandable answer. Though recent revelations make it pretty clear that even if it wasn't set up that you're Arno anyway they still wouldn't have let you play as a woman because you have to be a (to quote another tweet from an Ubisoft writer) "straight white alpha male."
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Harrow posted:What's extra weird about this is that, in Unity's multiplayer, you're always Arno, the main character from the story mode. You see other players as other Assassins, but they always see themselves as Arno and see you as another Assassin. They could've just said "the multiplayer stories are written for the player to be Arno, so we don't have any character customization beyond what's in the main game" and it would've at least been a more understandable answer. its because he was a dumb rear end in a top hat and unity was a giant loving mess.
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"Straight white alpha male", Jesus Christ Stamping his foot like a lil baby threatened by difference
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Jul 21, 2020 18:06
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VideoGames update my gang tag except the dude faces are all Ubi execs.
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Jul 21, 2020 18:08
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Ubisoft is a waste lol
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Thinking Kassandra wouldn’t be good to sell but Aiden Pierce and his iconic hat was is some weird thinking.
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The most bizarre thing about that statement is how it's wrong in multiple angles. Let alone the obvious diversity angle and the like, do these idiots at Ubisoft realize how many dumbass horny nerds will buy a game if it has a hot female protagonist? Disregarding all the actual obvious issues, they're also just straight up bad at understanding what sells and what doesn't, which is kind of incredible.
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Skippy McPants posted:I’d be more shocked if Ubisoft’s poisonous culture wasn’t the norm at other big studios and publishers. Pretty much. This is at least every AAA publisher and developer. Even the beloved ones like CD Projekt likely have this problem given the stuff their heads have said in interviews.
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Mokinokaro posted:Pretty much. This is at least every AAA publisher and developer. https://twitter.com/heartimecia/status/1281749400751091712
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