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brains posted:yeah that's cool and all, except the agency behind it won't admit anything, ignores subpoenas, blanket-banned FOIA requests, has had the highest court in the land basically shrug off constitutional violations, and generally has made itself untouchable by even the DOJ. Yeah. Who would you send to arrest them? How would you even identify suspects?
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Jul 21, 2020 19:49
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Stultus Maximus posted:A violent left wing "revolution" wouldn't get off its feet before, well GIP's left wing can't even agree that removing Trump from office is worthwhile.
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Jul 21, 2020 19:50
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Hmm I think we mostly disagree with the manner of removal.
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Jul 21, 2020 19:54
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D&D had a multi-page derail over whether or not it’s okay to feel bad for Trump if one of his kids dies so I’ll tell you that GiP is doing okay in comparison
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Jul 21, 2020 20:01
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I think something like cancelling elections or refusing to accept the results would become a first-hand affront and mobilize a much larger group. So we could end-up with piecemeal fuckery where some states (or even individual counties) cancel elections, or suddenly the evidence of voting machine fraud gets taken seriously, or the legitimacy of absentee ballots during a pandemic is questioned, which makes "cancelled" a matter of degrees and blurs the line of "the result is invalid." The uncertainty will be bad for business, so a cabal of CEOs will have to step-in to pick the winners and get the bankers aligned with that decision. Detroit's OCP Corporation will branch out to other cities, first as a private security force for businesses, then as a lowball bidder for municipal police replacements. The rest, &c.
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Jul 21, 2020 20:11
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ASAPI posted:I keep hearing "just wait", but I don't see it. Unless there is a mass underground command structure, I don't see it ever happening. For a violent revolution to actually work, people need to know who to "get" first. Listening to the last few seasons of the Revolutions podcast, the overall theme is very much that a structure isn’t needed to spark an uprising. But also plenty of people have tried to initiate revolt themselves only to fizzle despite having completely valid grievances. A plant is a great analogy. If an individual incident doesn’t have fertile soil and the right conditions to grow, nothing will come of it. But if it’s the right kind of seed in the right situation in the right environment and tended in the right way, it can grow tremendously quickly and fully.
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Jul 21, 2020 20:15
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Fallom posted:D&D had a multi-page derail over whether or not it’s okay to feel bad for Trump if one of his kids dies so I’ll tell you that GiP is doing okay in comparison If Tiffany died I'd feel bad for her because nobody else cared.
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Jul 21, 2020 20:18
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Doc Hawkins posted:Yeah. Who would you send to arrest them? How would you even identify suspects? the real answer is that if the governors truly objected, they would have their national guard out in force arresting unidentified minivan cosplayers.
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Jul 21, 2020 20:26
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Trump started making tear gas btw
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Jul 21, 2020 20:27
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LingcodKilla posted:If Tiffany died I'd feel bad for her because nobody else cared. Tiffany is the Fred Jr. of the current Trump generation.
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Jul 21, 2020 20:39
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Thwomp posted:Listening to the last few seasons of the Revolutions podcast, the overall theme is very much that a structure isn’t needed to spark an uprising. But also plenty of people have tried to initiate revolt themselves only to fizzle despite having completely valid grievances. Another touched on this point as well about my "command and control" statement. While I agree that the "spark" doesn't need any form of unifying command and control, the actual revolution would need some form of structure to continue and achieve their goals. I have a hard time believing that a plucky group of demonstrators are capable of quickly forming a command and control system to coordinate attacks against the American gov't. We can all see the (to use your plant analogy) seed taking and starting to sprout. I just don't see the plant growing much more than what it is, at least in a violent manner. If we look at statements in this very forum we know it to be true. There are some who feel (arguably, rightly) that they are disenfranchised in the political system with the choices before them. None of those people openly call for open rebellion, only for a continuation of the civil unrest we see know and a healthy dose of "we are doomed" talk in regards to the current political system. Maybe I am wrong and just look in the wrong places. I just don't see the "trigger" for further escalation. I wish I could talk with those who might be in that realm, it's a topic I find deeply interesting and would love to hear that side.
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Jul 21, 2020 20:41
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LingcodKilla posted:If Tiffany died I'd feel bad for her because nobody else cared. She campaigned for him so she can eat poo poo too.
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Jul 21, 2020 20:44
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What about all the people who are on the verge of being evicted/foreclosed on from not being able to pay for their housing anymore? I would think if people by the tens of thousands get put out into the street, it could certainly move things toward the tipping point as far as rebellion (or whatever we'd call it)
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Jul 21, 2020 21:40
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MrMojok posted:What about all the people who are on the verge of being evicted/foreclosed on from not being able to pay for their housing anymore? I would think if people by the tens of thousands get put out into the street, it could certainly move things toward the tipping point as far as rebellion (or whatever we'd call it) Temporarily displaced future millionaires.
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Jul 21, 2020 21:44
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MrMojok posted:What about all the people who are on the verge of being evicted/foreclosed on from not being able to pay for their housing anymore? I would think if people by the tens of thousands get put out into the street, it could certainly move things toward the tipping point as far as rebellion (or whatever we'd call it) Idk we already have 22% of the world's prison population. Let's funnel more money to campaigns from private prison owners.
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Jul 21, 2020 21:45
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Johnny English was a documentary
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Jul 21, 2020 21:55
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I would think that actual revolution or whatever doesn't come from "plucky groups of protestors", it happens when a significant portion of the population decides to tell the govt to get hosed. The various groups and leadership emerge out of that clusterfuck, I don't think, at least initially, that there's any need for any huge command & control, it's more organic than that. PS. I'm completely pulling this outta my rear end from my vague memories of the arab spring and uhhh playing rear end Creed french revolution.
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Jul 21, 2020 22:17
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Fuckface in Chief giving press conference on Coronavirus. It's full of as much bullshit, falsehoods, unneeded words, ramblings, and outright lies as you'd expect.
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Jul 21, 2020 22:19
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the US isn't going to have a revolution anytime soon, right or left.
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Jul 21, 2020 22:22
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Bored As gently caress posted:Fuckface in Chief giving press conference on Coronavirus. It's full of as much bullshit, falsehoods, unneeded words, ramblings, and outright lies as you'd expect. Apparently he's just reading poo poo, so it's a NEW TONE!!!! Note: this is before any Q&A so lol Edit: WAT https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/1285689059831099392?s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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Jul 21, 2020 22:26
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BigDave posted:I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the US isn't going to have a revolution anytime soon, right or left. One could argue that the senate GOP's push to block the last executives scotus picks, their direct or indirect support of the current executives actions and their lack of concern over the DoJ to drop cases against Flynn etc are a good example of an authoritarian revolution underway for a while now. Whether it succeeds or fails we will know for sure by early January.
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Jul 21, 2020 22:27
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That Works posted:One could argue that the senate GOP's push to block the last executives scotus picks, their direct or indirect support of the current executives actions and their lack of concern over the DoJ to drop cases against Flynn etc are a good example of an authoritarian revolution underway for a while now. Whether it succeeds or fails we will know for sure by early January. this is more indicative of a failed state than a revolution though
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Jul 21, 2020 22:32
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brains posted:this is more indicative of a failed state than a revolution though Possibly. Bit of semantics and grey areas (imo) but either way the result is regime change?
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Jul 21, 2020 22:34
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All I know is what I heard a historian say which is "if your plan for a revolution includes '... and then the people will rise up' it's definitely gonna fail."
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Jul 21, 2020 22:38
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Bored As gently caress posted:Fuckface in Chief giving press conference on Coronavirus. It's full of as much bullshit, falsehoods, unneeded words, ramblings, and outright lies as you'd expect. And we have our headline out of the coronavirus briefing. https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1285689928484093960 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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Jul 21, 2020 22:40
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There's a lot going on in that clip.
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Jul 21, 2020 22:45
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I'm researching smilies as part of the labeling effort to make them more searchable and found a current event from 11 years ago, we have a photo of our very own McNally in a post from 17 July 2009:
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Jul 21, 2020 22:49
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https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/sta...ingawful.com%2F
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Jul 21, 2020 22:51
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Midjack posted:I'm researching smilies as part of the labeling effort to make them more searchable and found a current event from 11 years ago, we have a photo of our very own McNally in a post from 17 July 2009: ehhh could we maybe not dig up personal pictures and details people posted 11 years ago in the july 2020 current events thread? i realize it's all out there but still, feels kinda gross.
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Jul 21, 2020 22:54
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facialimpediment posted:And we have our headline out of the coronavirus briefing. It was so amazing. It's as if he's admitting he was close friends. With sex traffickers. Of kids. With his name and number in Epstein's black book. He definitely raped kids with Epstein and Clinton.
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Jul 21, 2020 22:57
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Hmm, thinking 36 hours tops.
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Jul 21, 2020 22:58
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bird food bathtub posted:Hmm, thinking 36 hours tops. more like 3-6 hours
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Jul 21, 2020 22:59
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ABC is just sucking trump's dick so that they can maybe get out of the "fake news" bubble.
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Jul 21, 2020 23:00
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brains posted:ehhh could we maybe not dig up personal pictures and details people posted 11 years ago in the july 2020 current events thread? i realize it's all out there but still, feels kinda gross. Sure, done.
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Jul 21, 2020 23:02
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here's some current events that should have been from years ago:Business Insider posted:The US military is starting to get concerned about law enforcement dressing up in Army uniforms
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Jul 21, 2020 23:10
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This happened the other day off of Aruba. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/07/20/dutch-military-helicopter-crashes-near-aruba-killing-2-crew.html They don't know why the helio went down, other than it being a helio, but they were able to recover the black box.
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Jul 21, 2020 23:14
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When we get to 500k dead he'll start talking in complete sentences.
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Jul 21, 2020 23:28
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facialimpediment posted:Apparently he's just reading poo poo, so it's a NEW TONE!!!! "DONT RAT ME OUT"
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Jul 21, 2020 23:54
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facialimpediment posted:Apparently he's just reading poo poo, so it's a NEW TONE!!!! Shout out to Maxwell was something he definitely needed to include. 
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brains posted:here's some current events that should have been from years ago: In retrospect the marines trademarking their MARPAT doesn’t seem that weird now
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