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Wokely waiting for a sale before giving ubisoft my money this time around.
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precision posted:It's not necessarily about producing change. The choice can be as simple as to not literally give money to them. but it's also easy to not buy games from a company because there are 8 billion games that get released on steam every day there's a twitter account just for 6 second trailers of new additions to steam and it updates like every 5 minutes
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Jul 24, 2020 03:25
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acksplode posted:The Consumer Activist Manifesto Oh gently caress off
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Jul 24, 2020 03:29
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"I don't feel like giving a scummy company money yet again" "Haha you poser" Are we really doing this, lol
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Jul 24, 2020 03:30
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the best way to not support publishers is to be poor imo
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Jul 24, 2020 03:41
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Unless it's rubbed in their faces directly and indisputably
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Jul 24, 2020 03:47
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game will be cracked quickly if you really want to play it
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Fried Watermelon posted:game will be cracked quickly if you really want to play it This is some weak conviction poo poo. Playing and telling all your friends about how fun it is, posting about it online, watching tips and tricks vids, etc all just feed into the games popularity. Even if you pirated it.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:This is some weak conviction poo poo. Playing and telling all your friends about how fun it is, posting about it online, watching tips and tricks vids, etc all just feed into the games popularity. Even if you pirated it. I mean, how many comments have you seen (not necessarily here, but in the general discourse of this discussion) where people go, "Oh I don't like Ubisoft games anyway," the implication of which is that if someone actually had to give something up that they desired, they wouldn't. Most people's convictions stop the second it impacts their convenience.
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Jul 24, 2020 04:19
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realistically the impact any consumer can have is incredibly low. like there's companies that literally killed babies in the 70s and 80s that still own small fiefdoms these days, and the power of the individual consumer has only gotten lower as time goes on. make whatever decision youre comfortable with, just dont act like its the most moral one, imo. and if you do make the decision to not play or support the game in anyway, that actually is the most moral one, but there's a difference between 'moral' and 'will actually change anything.'
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GrandpaPants posted:I mean, how many comments have you seen (not necessarily here, but in the general discourse of this discussion) where people go, "Oh I don't like Ubisoft games anyway," the implication of which is that if someone actually had to give something up that they desired, they wouldn't. Most people's convictions stop the second it impacts their convenience.
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GrandpaPants posted:I mean, how many comments have you seen (not necessarily here, but in the general discourse of this discussion) where people go, "Oh I don't like Ubisoft games anyway," the implication of which is that if someone actually had to give something up that they desired, they wouldn't. Most people's convictions stop the second it impacts their convenience. Oh yeah absolutely. I saw this all the time with the Blizzard hongkong stuff. People who never played any of the games or stopped a decade ago posturing crazily over not giving Blizzard money anymore.
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i mean the rayman games are dope but ubisoft isn't making them anymore except for garbage autorunners on mobile so i already had a beef. they should've spent less time choking employees and more time making rayman odyssey if we're talking something i enjoy(ed), touch the skyrim was a great video series and i haven't watched it since nick robinson imploded. and until mike nelson's apology and ditching of his shithole friends i was prepped to give up rifftrax and THQ publishes some good poo poo but i'm not buying any of it. sorry biomutant. i'm sure desperados 3 will be dope too but too bad The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Jul 24, 2020 |
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Jul 24, 2020 04:26
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everytime nick robinsons very successful youtube channel appears anywhere i enter "rage mode"
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Stux posted:everytime nick robinsons very successful youtube channel appears anywhere i enter "rage mode" man has the money to literally fly to japan for the sake of a single punchline in a single video, and no other reason
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im going to build him a pair of wax wings and tell him to fly into the sun
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Stux posted:everytime nick robinsons very successful youtube channel appears anywhere i enter "rage mode"  This is the most infuriating thing and the fact that no one ever acknowledges it except for the people (mainly women) who actively despaired seeing him walk around E3 and GDC like everything was hunky-dory, is one of the main reasons why I believe any handwringing about "cancel culture" is a laff
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Jul 24, 2020 04:51
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Cancel Culture is real it just only effects people without any power or status.
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I like the term outrage culture better, it's more descriptive of what actually fuels the discourse, it includes the chuds who 100% play into it when it benefits their side and outrage doesn't touch famous/well-connected people, it's too personal for that — but it does hurt regular nobodies that either gently caress up slightly or are misinterpreted. Outrage can be productive but it needs to be focused, otherwise it's just for catharsis.
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baka kaba posted:amazing Sounds like a bit from The Office. Of course those people exist in real life. Zongerian posted:The name 5 good French games challenge Superman 64 Fort Boyard: Le Jeu Urban Runner Robinson's Requiem Timecop ErrEff fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Jul 24, 2020 |
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Jul 24, 2020 11:16
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:
Did I miss more coming out about him? Because from what I recall he “only” creepily hit on women through DMs, there was never any sexual abuse or grooming like most of the creeps in this thread. EDIT: Ok yeah it was worse than I thought, what I read about the allegations must’ve downplayed it hard. https://www.dailydot.com/irl/nick-robinson-matt-conn-sexual-harassment-abuse/ RatHat fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Jul 24, 2020 |
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Jul 24, 2020 11:18
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Oh yeah absolutely. I saw this all the time with the Blizzard hongkong stuff. People who never played any of the games or stopped a decade ago posturing crazily over not giving Blizzard money anymore. These discussions are always stupid whenever they come up because they reframe something that I think pretty much everyone would agree with (abusers should be fired from their positions and their organization should not protect them) into some morality play that places the burden of their abuse onto thousands or potentially millions of endpoint consumers, who are most of the time totally oblivious to the situation or working with incomplete information. It also implies by omission that there is a “correct” way to consume under capitalism, and that if we just all made the right purchasing decisions, the exploitation by these multinational corporations would cease to be an issue. It diminishes the thought pattern everyone should be seeing in all this — our system of globalized capitalism promotes the mass exploitation of NEARLY EVERYBODY by its very existence — into feeling better about yourself because you support the Good Corporations and they don’t. It’s such a misdirected waste of ire and energy.
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I also can't help but think that if this poo poo is systemic, every major company is complicit withand/or probably has abusers in their leadership circle. You're just giving money to the ones smart enough to hide it well, or lucky enough that people didn't speak up yet. But if you fall into that line of thinking you ain't doing anything ever in your life again, so... Boycotting is good and it's probably the correct decision when a company gets exposed for lovely practices but grandstanding doesn't lead to anything and it fosters inaction and conflict between people that are on the same side, IMHO. I'm reminded of the weird period in the speedrunning thread where people where preemptively apologizing for sharing content because what if this guy turns out to be a shithead? What if I didn't know this guy was a shithead and shared his content?
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Ibram Gaunt posted:This is some weak conviction poo poo. Playing and telling all your friends about how fun it is, posting about it online, watching tips and tricks vids, etc all just feed into the games popularity. Even if you pirated it. So don't do any of that and just steal it
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God, what a bunch of navel gazing horse poo poo. Lmao. "Why do anything, why not just make long posts instead" Y'all have fun. I'm deleting the awful app for good this time. Sick of assholes like stux and the new "chat thread clique" (aka the stux fan club) who apparently delight in making me, a mentally ill person, feel like total poo poo just for trying to post and be chill. I guess it's proof of how woke they are, they'll even bully a depressed nonbinary person that just wants to be their friend Lol
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precision posted:God, what a bunch of navel gazing horse poo poo. Lmao. "Why do anything, why not just make long posts instead" what
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precision posted:God, what a bunch of navel gazing horse poo poo. Lmao. "Why do anything, why not just make long posts instead" I've met paranoid old southern ladies with less developed persecution complexes than this.
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Jul 24, 2020 15:07
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Trying to engage with Stux is your first mistake
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Jul 24, 2020 15:09
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stux's fan club has one member
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Jul 24, 2020 15:12
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The 7th Guest posted:stux's fan club has one member who is it
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Andrast posted:who is it
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please don't slander stux like that
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precision posted:God, what a bunch of navel gazing horse poo poo. Lmao. "Why do anything, why not just make long posts instead" here I am stux in the middle with you
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Jul 24, 2020 16:54
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precision posted:God, what a bunch of navel gazing horse poo poo. Lmao. "Why do anything, why not just make long posts instead" i dont understand, i like you youre a posting friend. im sorry
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Jul 24, 2020 17:02
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Lets all just be nice here, we are all effectively on the same page about how what is going on in the game industry is extremely bad.
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I said come in! posted:Lets all just be nice here, we are all effectively on the same page about how what is going on in the game industry is extremely bad. yeah. my guess is all the companies are some level of poo poo outside like 1 or 2 indie places/folks.
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Less Fat Luke posted:It's really not hard as other posters are listing them, you can also include Divinity 2, definitely the last two AC games despite Ubisoft trying to be terrible, and if you look at the Infogrames list there's a ton more. Divinity 2 is made by a Belgian studio, not a french one.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/ubisoft-faces-new-allegations-of-sexual-harassment-and-toxic-culture-2020-7?r=US&IR=T no one new i believe but more hosed up details.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Wokely waiting for a sale before giving ubisoft my money this time around. You okay
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