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KingColliwog posted:First, thanks for all the answers in the past few weeks. I did my first outdoor day where I was the one setting the top rope anchor and we didnt die and mostly felt safe aside from normal first time anxiety . I used a quad that I had pretied before. Generally speaking you should never run rope/cord/webbing directly through a bolt (technically through the hanger at the bolt). They have sharp-ish edges and are made to clip a carabiner into, not to tie directly to. It is possible that your girth hitched sling could get cut at the bolt. There are some fat hangers that are specifically designed so you can rap off them, but I've only encountered a few of them in my life. Now, if the bolt has chains attached, you could girth hitch the last link in the chain and do what you described, but really I would just pick up two more locking carabiners.
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Well that was fast. Thx to both of you. I wanted to buy two new biners for my lanyard anyway since using screwgates was tedious in some situations.
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The other thing to consider is you could double the reach of your cordallette by untying the quad and using a figure eight on a bight or something similar. Then you might not need the slings at all. See this page: https://www.vdiffclimbing.com/sport-top-rope/ Agreed with the above points about girth hitching bolts not being good practice.
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Jul 11, 2020 13:16
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Interesting video testing Amazon-grade climbing hardware. A good point is made that QC and minimizing defects are more important than small sample testing like this, but hypothetically if you’re climbing with a partner who has this type of hardware, or if you’re doing a ropes course in a third world country (😱), this stuff should be safe enough especially if you add redundancy. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQfKTx5T2WM
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Any recommendations for durable, breathable masks for indoor climbing? My "climbing center" is finally open (NJ categorizes them as indoor recreation, not actual gyms) but requires a mask at all times.
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Jul 15, 2020 18:41
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I really like those : https://apogee-sports.com/collections/masques But they are made in Quebec Canada so I don't know if it makes sense for you if you're american. For anyone in Canada I think they are really awesome. Nice fit and great quality synthetic material.
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KingColliwog posted:I really like those : https://apogee-sports.com/collections/masques Thanks - $40 shipping, unfortunately. That's what I'm looking for, though - a more fitted face and flat, adjustable ear straps.
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Jul 16, 2020 00:51
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PCJ-600 posted:Thanks - $40 shipping, unfortunately. That's what I'm looking for, though - a more fitted face and flat, adjustable ear straps. We have a few of these: https://www.electricstyles.com/collections/face-masks Pros: breath well, adjustable ear straps, filters, nose fitter so your dang glasses stop fogging up Cons: cost We also have these: https://stringking.com/ppe/face-masks/cloth-face-mask/ I ride my bike in them sometimes but mostly I just stuff some in the car, in my bike bag, etc. When I got these you could not get masks anywhere at the time. They have different sizes now though which is cool. I don't think these would be great to climb in honestly.
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Hey rock climbing goons. Some people over in what used to be Take A Hike The Take A Hike subforum is currently kind of dead so we’re doing what amounts to a relaunch. It was in DIY which is kind of bizarre. It’s basically getting turned back into an RSF for a bit and I’m going to do a bunch of drumming up attention for it. The basic idea behind the new forum is going to be outdoors stuff. Hiking, fishing, hunting, camping, all that kind of good stuff. Here's the moved forum, bumped to be top level for the time being like all RSFs are. I suspect it will find a new home besides DIY in the future, since it was always kind of a weird fit as a sub there. The new name of the forum is The Great Outdoors. Anyways forums live or die by having specialist, niche threads. A lot of other subs have outdoors-y threads that are general purpose subject chat things which is good and fine. We don’t need to fill the forum with ten different camping/chat threads with different crews. TFR can have a video game thread even though Games is a forum, for example, because a general chat thread for gun nerds to talk about what they're playing today can't replicate the dozens upon dozens of unique threads that delve much deeper into specific subjects that a dedicated Games forum has. So, we are going to need some threads on the sort of niche outdoorsy poo poo that an actually goony outdoors forum would talk about. So if any of you ever wanted to have an OP of a thread about what hiking boots are good or how to make your own fishing lures or UrbEx or what the gently caress ever here’s your chance. I've already started what amounts to a soft launch of the reinvigorated forum. It's now a top level forum and we'll see where it goes from there. We've press ganged a couple of current mods into keeping an eye on it and, in true RSF fashion, if it takes off again we'll pull some people as mods from within that community. As an aside, if this thread thinks that it would be a better fit over there I'm open to talking about that. I don't want to force moves on threads that are happy where they are, but I do think that some of the more specifically outdoors threads might be a better fit over there. Of course if this rebooted forum doesn't take off the threads will be moved back to their original homes before it's shuttered. Maybe this thread is needed for rock climbing in the "go to the gym" sense and there's a need for a rock climbing in the "insane people who free climb El Capitan" sense over there. I dunno, I'm pretty open to doing what you all want. Anyways go check it out.
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Personally I would just move the hiking thread (please change the title to "Hiking: The long walk to nowhere") to YLLS. That is where all the other outdoor threads are. Climbing, mountain biking, ski/snowboard, etc. So unless you then want to move all of those threads around to the new outdoors forum it seems like a much simpler solution to me. E: If you are going to stick the the outdoor forum though (since it already exists) seems like a number of threads would belong over there.
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My city just installed a rock climbing boulder made of real rock that was slightly "sculpted" to make actual problems4 mins walk away from me. The company that made it hasn't published the problems yet, but if it's like the ones in Montreal there'll be like 10-15 problems in the v2 to v10 range. I hope this becomes a thing everywhere. It's so cool.
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Jul 18, 2020 20:25
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KingColliwog posted:My city just installed a rock climbing boulder made of real rock that was slightly "sculpted" to make actual problems4 mins walk away from me. The company that made it hasn't published the problems yet, but if it's like the ones in Montreal there'll be like 10-15 problems in the v2 to v10 range. I hope this becomes a thing everywhere. It's so cool. Sounds cool. Pics?
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Jul 18, 2020 21:58
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Yeah pics ASAP please
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Jul 18, 2020 23:21
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Please also link the company, I would be interested in specifying their work on some projects.
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Jul 19, 2020 03:32
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Hi rock climbing thread! I'm one of the temporary mods of The Great Outdoors. Before we rebranded take a hike to its current form there was a bunch of discussion about how best to keep up activity in the forum. One of the things that was brought up is that there is a ton of interest in outdoors activity, but its scattered across multiple forums. A/T had its own fishing thread, AI had threads on boats, sailboat racing and offroading, TFR had its hunting thread and YLLS of course has a number of threads on biking, skiing, backpacking, hiking and rockclimbing. All activities and threads that would be a wonderful fit with a new outdoors forum. The problem that we felt we had would be getting posters from those old established threads interested in posting in the new forum. Of course, just moving the thread would do the trick, but some posters don't want the thread outside of the culture of the forum it was started in which we understand. This is why I've been going around to different threads and asking them how they feel on it. The A/T fishing thread got moved to TGO and merged with the fishing thread that had been made when take a hike was still opened as an RSF after the fishing goons agreed that the discussion belonged in TGO. The AI threads have elected to stay in AI, but the boat and sailboat threads agreed that a thread for general boating adventures in TGO would be a good idea with the AI threads being more of a "Lets fix what broke on our boating adventure" thread for the boat thread and the sailboat racing thread staying as it is closer to racing cars that outdoor adventures. The TFR hunting thread decided that a TGO thread focusing on the actual hunting and outdoors aspect of hunting running alongside the existing TFR thread for gun recommendations and setup was the way to go. DIY has been having discussions with its gardening and plant threads about where they want to be. This is all fine and cool too! If you feel your thread is better suited to staying in YLLS because it has more of an exercise vibe than an outdoors activity vibe, then I'm cool with it staying in YLLS. In the end its entirely up to the posters of each thread where they feel they would be most at home. I should mention that this isn't just the normal RSF deal of "Hey, lets just make the forum and see what happens". Rather this is a go of making it an actual home on the forums for outdoors activities. I want to make it an easy source for information and discussion on these topics where any goon feels comfortable coming in and posting about it. Before they had to fiddle with a broken search system or hop from forum to forum trying to find where the op of a thread felt they were most comfortable starting the thread. I think we can all agree that wasn't the most ideal way to do it. As for the culture of the forum, well that's still developing. My hope and what I'd like to see is something close to what AI has where if AI is a bunch of goons in a garage bullshitting, TGO is a bunch of goons around a campfire bullshitting. Just a relaxed place to go for information and chat with your new posting friends about a subject you enjoy. I have seen some concerns about what happens if the forum fails to drum up activity and it was already decided that we would be moving threads to wherever most suits them. Threads that already came from a certain forum would go back to that forum. My belief is that if we can get the big long running threads from various forums into TGO or at least have parallel threads, it stands an extremely good shot of working and can even have new posters come to those threads that may not have known about them before! I mean, if we can have an active subforum about fast food, I figure we can manage a halfway active forum about going outdoors, right?  If you got this far, I wanna thank you for reading through my long winded  and look forward to seeing how you feel about this subject. Hopefully we get to hang out in the great outdoors together.  tldr: lemme know how you feel about hanging out with us in an awesome new forum. PS - Ya'll are nuts in a way I can very much appreciate. 
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I don't have pictures yet, I'll try to go snap some in the next few days. It's two HUGE blocs of granite They are just starting to put the info for the problems on mountain project (there should be 23 problems from what I see) so there's just that picture of a V4 for the moment: https://imgur.com/z40sIKG Montain project link : https://www.mountainproject.com/area/119225469/place-jean-beliveau-onsite-urban-boulder Here's an example from what they did in Montréal to give you an idea. The blocs we got here are much much bigger so there's not as many compression boulders like there seem to be in the video https://vimeo.com/362437973 The company is OnSite climbing. You can find info about them here : https://www.theonsite.com/pleinair I'm so excited. Can't believe I have that thing I can literally walk to anytime in less than 5 minutes. -------- THE GREAT OUTDOORS I don't know how much of an opinion I have. When I began climbing a year and a half ago I didn't think of climbing as an outdoor thing. I was looking for a new cool sport to do since I was getting too injured for Judo. If it wasn't for COVID I probably still wouldn't be climbing outdoors. I think most new climbers probably get into it more for the "sport" aspect and probably all begin indoor and I wouldn't be surprised if most think of it as an indoor activity and see outdoor climbers as adventurous psychos. In the end I don't think I really care if we're moved or stay in YLLS, but I don't want the thread to get splitted. I don't think a more "outdoor" version of this thread there and a "indoor/sport" version here makes sense since there's not THAT much activity in this thread as it stands. KingColliwog fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Jul 19, 2020 |
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KingColliwog posted:THE GREAT OUTDOORS Agree with every part of this, for me climbing was just a fun way to get into shape that doesn't require anything other than some relatively cheap equipment and preferably a friend. I don't think of climbing as particularly outdoorsy in and of itself though it does seem like there's a big overlap between climbers and people who do a lot of outdoors activity. In spite of that climbing is more of a fitness / sport activity IMO but it could be considered either. This attitude is probably based on how easily you have access to good rock, if I could go climb outdoors without having to dedicate at least a whole weekend to it I'd definitely do it more often.
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Since TGO exists you might as well move this thread over there. As long as my bookmark works it is all good with me.
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Got some pictures of the boulder : Oh and they posted some (or all) of the problems : https://www.mountainproject.com/area/119225489/fleur-de-lys-onsite    
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Yeah moving this thread is fine, just don't split it or start another climbing thread, it's slow enough already.
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KingColliwog posted:I think most new climbers probably get into it more for the "sport" aspect and probably all begin indoor and I wouldn't be surprised if most think of it as an indoor activity and see outdoor climbers as adventurous psychos. I enjoyed this perspective a lot. Those boulders look lush though.
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Endjinneer posted:I enjoyed this perspective a lot. Those boulders look lush though. I don't care what people do honestly, climb inside only if you want. but..... climbing is for the wild world of real rock and mountains.
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KingColliwog posted:I don't have pictures yet, I'll try to go snap some in the next few days. It's two HUGE blocs of granite I definitely know plenty of indoor gym rats who never go outside, and don't know anyone to go outside with–I was one of them for 4 years as well. The main benefit to the outdoor rock will be barely needing maintenance. Hanging up wood requires safety inspections and has the risk of rotting (especially with Canadian winters). Also something with holds requires people to constantly set and maintain the routes with also a risk of theft. Rock has a place. Would be nicer if it were larger so people could do traverses/laps though. KingColliwog posted:I'm so excited. Can't believe I have that thing I can literally walk to anytime in less than 5 minutes. Suicide Watch fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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From an aesthetic perspective, I kind of like it. From a bouldering perspective though, it seems like a more expensive, less functional installation than just putting up a small bouldering wall. I mean it's neat either way, but the whole concept strikes me as missing the functional mark in favor of the artistic one.
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Yeah it's hard to tell without close ups of that rock, but the one side literally looks like a campus board. What a waste of a rock, you can hang up wood for pennies compared to chiseling out a rock for that??
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That "campus board" effect is just how they split large stone. A series of drilled holes forming a line to then fracture it along. It looks like they then flipped it sideways so those marks could potentially be climbing features.
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armorer posted:From an aesthetic perspective, I kind of like it. From a bouldering perspective though, it seems like a more expensive, less functional installation than just putting up a small bouldering wall. There's 6 months of winter here. You can't have wood/resin outdoors and expect it to survive. Ubiquitus posted:Yeah it's hard to tell without close ups of that rock, but the one side literally looks like a campus board. The marks you're talking about would be the worst campus board ever. They are terrible slopers at best. They do make for good footholds (very negative and polished ones though). The sides with those marks are the "easy" sides with the V3s. The big faces is crimpy granite/arete stuff. I spent an hour or so on it and it's really fun and I'll use it a lot when I don't have time to drive 30 minutes +approach and don't want to go to the gym. Also the day after a big downpour since it dries super fast being so exposed.
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spwrozek posted:I don't care what people do honestly, climb inside only if you want. but..... climbing is for the wild world of real rock and mountains. gyms are cool
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I'm at the halfway mark of a climbing week here in Bohuslän in south Sweden. Feels great to jam my way up moderate, well protected cracks. Kept picking the wrong size cams and nuts the first day (sure sign that I'm a bit rusty!). Ticking a bunch of the classic grade N7 (5.11 range) climbs. Gonna try to psych myself up to do something hardish tomorrow and take a few gear falls.
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Verviticus posted:gyms are cool Sure sure. I went to the gym a lot after work pre covid but climbing outside is just that much better.
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Having a solid lead head outside is way harder.
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A local gym just shared this article; https://www.climbingbusinessjournal.com/chalk-significantly-reduces-coronavirus/quote:A model coronavirus for SARS-CoV-2, human coronavirus OC43, was used in the experimentation, which entailed analyzing the presence of that virus for one hour on plastic that was dusted with chalk—and comparing results against a control group of plastic without chalk. “The results indicated that the amount of infectious virus was reduced by around 99 percent immediately upon contact with the chalky surfaces,” 
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Sab669 posted:A local gym just shared this article; https://www.climbingbusinessjournal.com/chalk-significantly-reduces-coronavirus/ So that is what Chem, I mean Con, trails really are... powdered coronavirus killing chalk.
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Sab669 posted:A local gym just shared this article; https://www.climbingbusinessjournal.com/chalk-significantly-reduces-coronavirus/ So what you’re saying is we should inject chalk directly into our bodies, right? 
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Last route of the day, jamming my way up a mossed up crack when suddenly WASPS everywhere! Have to downclimb cause my last piece is too far below me and I'm over a ledge. Got stung like 4 times but thabkfully only on the arms and chest. Had to climb back up to reverse the route and retrieve my gear. Almost put my hand on a viper on another route today aswell. I love nature but it doesn't seem to love me back...
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spwrozek posted:Sure sure. I went to the gym a lot after work pre covid but climbing outside is just that much better. I agree with you, but still think it's for adventurous psychos! Sigmund Fraud posted:Last route of the day, jamming my way up a mossed up crack when suddenly WASPS everywhere! Have to downclimb cause my last piece is too far below me and I'm over a ledge. Got stung like 4 times but thabkfully only on the arms and chest. Had to climb back up to reverse the route and retrieve my gear. That must suck. Almost stepped on a nest when setting up a top rope last week. Can't imagine the same situation but way above a piece.
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i’ve stepped on a wasp nest twice. it’s fine just 20 or so stings
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I love climbing but I'm really not an outdoorsy or adventure type. It'll probably be a long time before I set foot in a climbing gym again
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Heya, any objection to me moving this to The Great Outdoors? I know climbing is often done inside (that's been 99% of my climbing for the past decade) but at a glance I think this thread is better suited to that forum. Thoughts?
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