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Ghost Leviathan posted:Just saying none of this is unique to China, a famous figure got singled out for something everyone does because she stepped out of line and didn't have the right friends The government being able to disappear a famous person and then make her publicly apologize for unpatriotic behavior is pretty unique for China.
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ungulateman posted:IMO the weird fandom episode they did for the 100th episode basically burnt out all desire to have the show actually be like that, and after that point the show stopped pressing those buttons and went back to being a good kids show instead, which was a very good decision. Except for the episode "Fame and Misfortune", you mean. (That one was dedicated to mocking common criticisms from adult fans, much of which would likely have gone over the heads of most anyone in their original intended demographic) As I understand, the lead writer wanted to tweak it to make it less hostile towards critics who arguably kinda had a point, but the execs were like "No, we want it this way". quote:With the fandom slowly petering out after the show ended and the next version of the show being basically Teen Titans Go, for better or worse, the fandom has gotten small enough that the same weird nasty angry people are loud enough to matter again. They still aren't a majority, but boy do they love posting about nazi pony/ies on every website that will let them, and at this point those sites are running out of other people who still care enough to do anything about it Pony Life (the Teen Titans Go thing) wasn't actually intended to be the next major series - just something thrown together to keep selling toys while G5 is in production (I think it's supposed to premiere sometime next year). As someone who enjoyed "Friendship is Magic" but never got meaningfully involved in the fandom, I'm looking forward to observing their reaction almost as much as the new show itself. Invalid Validation posted:Is Hazbin Hotel any good regardless of the animation? I personally prefer Helluva Boss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlahNrlcgS4
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Barudak posted:Its a surprisingly good movie even if narratively its slightly muddled because they clearly wanted to bring back Paul Newman's character but could not. Its extra weird since Cars 2 is loving horrible and has basically nothing to do with Cars 1 and 2 which are basically about the start and end of an athletes playing career. Yeah, I liked Cars 3 way more than I was expecting to - it might actually be my favorite of the three. It's a much more heartfelt look at aging and mentorship than a movie starring talking cars has any right to be! Another point in its favor is that Larry the Cable Guy is in it for probably all of three minutes.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Just saying none of this is unique to China, a famous figure got singled out for something everyone does because she stepped out of line and didn't have the right friends gently caress off with this whataboutism. Every criticism of China doesn't need to be paired with "yeah but the west is bad too". Unless the Chinese government is actively forcing you to post in which case continue on I guess.
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I hate Cars 3. Lightning McQueen is 45, and an actor named owen wilson. In cars 3 he is 78 and his back has an impacted disc. I also hate cars one because given infinite technology and resources and art and writers and all of this, it is a movie about a car dragging goo down a road. It may have been better, and cheaper, to make with live action cars and/or miniatures, with CGI eyes on top. They could have made something with an elf, or a strange island or something with a murder plot. How about a story about a magic piano who plays himself. Get it together, Pixar
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A Sometimes Food posted:gently caress off with this whataboutism. It's more the Orientalist undertones. Also, look up the history of whataboutism for some lols
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Yeah, I liked Cars 3 way more than I was expecting to - it might actually be my favorite of the three. It's a much more heartfelt look at aging and mentorship than a movie starring talking cars has any right to be! I think after Cars 2 was "Mater's big adventure starring also the cast of Cars" Im glad they reeled it right back in. The ending regarding buying teams and whatever is also weird because its an emotional payoff for the end of Cars 1 and requires remembering a decade older movie and also forgetting Cars 2 all over again
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Jul 26, 2020 09:42
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A Sometimes Food posted:gently caress off with this whataboutism. Reminds me of when people do basically the same thing with Islamic theocracies. Apparently, letting women expose their bellybuttons in public is on the same moral level as executing rape victims for adultery. Nikaer Drekin posted:Yeah, I liked Cars 3 way more than I was expecting to - it might actually be my favorite of the three. It's a much more heartfelt look at aging and mentorship than a movie starring talking cars has any right to be! Agreed - if Pixar ever got it in their heads to do Cars 4 (all I can see about their upcoming movies is a rumor that the next four after Soul will all be original), I'd be optimistic.
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So I was bored and did the math as the films events occur in real time regarding their release. For an actual NASCAR driver Lightning McQueen is basically GOAT with 7 championships in 10 seasons, and being in the finals a minimum of 8/10. For comparison, that would tie him for most championship wins with a real NASCAR driver and they did that over 24(?) seasons. Arguably, he'd be one of the single most dominant athletes at their sports ever. Cars 3 being the end of his career is even weirder because he goes from rookie to retired in 10 years, where the average career for anybody with multiple championships in Nascar is basically 15 years minimum, and closer to 20. Also his first name is loving Montgomery, not Lightning, so the bit at the end of the film over being called "Fabulous" is a non-sequitor to tie back to Doc Hudson's character which also makes sense mostly only if you forget Cars 2 ever happened which, frankly, you should. Barudak fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Jul 26, 2020 |
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Barudak posted:Cars 3 being the end of his career is even weirder because he goes from rookie to retired in 10 years, where the average career for anybody with multiple championships in Nascar is basically 15 years minimum, and closer to 20. If NASCAR drivers had to run 500 miles on foot every week, I suspect their careers would be a lot shorter too. Ten years isn't an uncommon career length for athletes in many sports. You certainly don't see a lot of decade-old chassis running around in NASCAR's top divisions, either, outside of the odd start-and-parker or backmarker team with very limited budgets; the few that do last that long are definitely outliers.
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Lightning also has his body replaced by a younger, fitter body at the end of the movie, so who knows how hat factors into the equation
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I actually don't hate Cars 2, but I wish it had either A) removed the original Cars character entirely and done a spy movie or B) if you HAVE to keep Mater, only have Mater. Don't include anyone from the past movie, not even Lightning McQueen. The spy parts of the movie were legit very fun, and were dragged down by the other parts. Lightning McQueen felt like he didn't need to be in the movie at all
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I'd be interested in everyones top 5 Mine are Feherlofia, Dumbo, Rango, One of the Nightmare Before Christmas/Monkeybone/Coraline trilogy, and Happy Feet. I feel like a great cartoon feature is hard to pull off.
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A Sometimes Food posted:gently caress off with this whataboutism. It's funny how leftist white guilt is so strong that they accidentally become tankies.
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FunkyAl posted:I'd be interested in everyones top 5 If we’re talking global animation I think all my picks would be Satoshi Kon movies and Spirited Away.
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All the animation I've seen is either western or some limited anime so this is heavily filtered from my narrow viewing experience, but... Two Disney, I love a lot of others (eg: Zootopia, Moana, Princess and the Frog, Aladdin) but I think these two easily sit above the rest and make my top 5: - Beauty and the Beast - The Lion King Of all the anime I've seen these two stand out, but half a dozen other Ghibli ones would be fighting for spots in my top 10: - Spirited Away - Tokyo Godfathers For the fifth spot I don't know if I'd shove a Pixar in there (in which case it would be Inside Out as my #1 of theirs, although not including Ratatouille would make me feel sad)... or a foreign one I love like Ernest et Celestine, or one by another American studio (Rango and Into the Spider-Verse being the absolute pinnacle ones I can think of, I don't think there's a single Dreamworks film that deserves to be in my top 5 although there's a lot of them I love as guilty pleasures, and HTTYD1 would probably be close to top 10) It's too hard :| Also the above isn't in any order Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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Jul 27, 2020 03:47
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FunkyAl posted:I'd be interested in everyones top 5 Top 5 personal favorites or top 5 best? Favorites: Beauty and the Beast, My Neighbor Totoro, The Last Unicorn, Brave Little Toaster, Rango Best 5: Beauty and the Beast, Spider-Verse, Lilo & Stitch, My Neighbor Totoro, Spirited Away Pick fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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Personal favorite 5: End of Evangelion, Perfect Blue, Lilo & Stitch, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, Spider-Verse
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Paprika, The Last Unicorn, Spider-Verse, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Lego Batman Movie
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Top fives are tough and fun to think about. I'd go with Tangled, Kaguya, Spiderverse, Only Yesterday, and Paprika. I actually saw Only Yesterday for the first time, but it really knocked me out. The ending credits scene landed so powerfully.
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit is truly exceptional, yes.
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I think I watched Only Yesterday at a time when I couldn't appreciate it, because I was just bored out of my mind when I watched when I was 21.
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I think I'm going to give my Honorable Mention to Moana. In fact, I might replace Lego Batman with Moana, or maybe make it a tie? It's a real toss up between those two. I think Moana is a better story as it's own thing, but I also grew up loving batman and watching batman stuff and so Lego Batman hits me in a more personal way. Anyway, I love both Moana and Lego Batman.
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I'm not sure what my full top 5 would be but I'll never turn down an opportunity to say The Iron Giant fuckin' rules.
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E: ^the iron giant is a real choice. I would have to say my top 5 are: the End of Evangelion, Perfect Blue, Lupin III the Castle of Cagliostro, Ghost in the Shell, and Into the Spiderverse PenguinKnight fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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Barudak posted:So I was bored and did the math as the films events occur in real time regarding their release. For an actual NASCAR driver Lightning McQueen is basically GOAT with 7 championships in 10 seasons, and being in the finals a minimum of 8/10. For comparison, that would tie him for most championship wins with a real NASCAR driver and they did that over 24(?) seasons. Arguably, he'd be one of the single most dominant athletes at their sports ever. Cars 3 being the end of his career is even weirder because he goes from rookie to retired in 10 years, where the average career for anybody with multiple championships in Nascar is basically 15 years minimum, and closer to 20. He's actually pretty close to irl NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson, who managed 7 championships from 2006-2016, including five in a row.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:He's actually pretty close to irl NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson, who managed 7 championships from 2006-2016, including five in a row. And Jimmie Johnson is still racing and the highest paid driver in the sport (iirc). Its a completely doofy personal thing but the time frame for Lightning feels too tight for the aging out thing they're going for and they don't really explore what lightning being the same number of wins as The King from the first film means. Its also because again, Cars 2 is a really bad movie that should not have Lightning McQueen in it and makes his career/legacy more muddled. I think you could do a decent middle film about him losing a cup at his peak due to not giving it his all and then have that have been a throughline in the 3rd film where he realizes, no, this time he can't train past this.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's more the Orientalist undertones. Also, look up the history of whataboutism for some lols I have read Orientalism by Edward Sahid and I am pretty drat sure you're misunderstanding what Orientalism means. I'm not saying China is a mysterious place with bizarre laws with possibly mystic undertones, so mysterious oooh, unlike us normal westerners, I'm saying that it has a culture that is different from the western one, about as hosed up. E: sorry for going off topic, but I was a bit bothered paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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FunkyAl posted:I'd be interested in everyones top 5 Lion King Ghost in the Shell A Nightmare Before Christmas Princess Mononoke Persepolis
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Spirited Away Aladdin Spider-Verse Triplets of Belleville Ratatouille
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Beauty & The Beast A Goofy Movie Finding Nemo Treasure Planet Who Framed Roger Rabbit
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1) The first flip book animation you make 2) Everything else
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Barudak posted:1) The first flip book animation you make
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Princess Mononoke Kung Fu Panda 2 The Secret of Nimh The Lion King Ghost in the Shell
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Hm, hard to pick... In no order: Paprika, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Princess Mononoke, The Great Mouse Detective, and Begonia and Big Fish
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*remembers Bee Movie* argghhghhggg
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