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i would guess that wine enthusiasts and wine investors aren't necessarily the same people, i would guess that enthusiasts would want to actually drink those rare expensive bottles rather than keep them in a safe for their whole life
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inferis posted:i would guess that wine enthusiasts and wine investors aren't necessarily the same people, i would guess that enthusiasts would want to actually drink those rare expensive bottles rather than keep them in a safe for their whole life If I was a wine investor I'd love him. "This bottle I'm holding, there's only 200 left in the world, what's that, Depp had some friends over for a quick drink, there's only 17 left in the world."
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Jul 26, 2020 06:24
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inferis posted:i would guess that wine enthusiasts and wine investors aren't necessarily the same people, i would guess that enthusiasts would want to actually drink those rare expensive bottles rather than keep them in a safe for their whole life Pretty much, the most expensive and collectible bottles tend to be from years where a normally expensive winery had a bad year. Bad weather or drought makes the wine worse, so fewer bottles get made and fewer people buy them to enjoy creating a scarcity of that years vintage.
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Jul 26, 2020 14:22
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Rhyno posted:Depp might be an irresponsible jerk but that doesn't make him a bad person. I think it's safe to say using the amount of money he has in the way he has does, actually, make him a bad person. Not "hit your spouse" flavour bad, but bad nonetheless.
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Jul 26, 2020 14:55
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I think it's safe to say using the amount of money he has in the way he has does, actually, make him a bad person. Not "hit your spouse" flavour bad, but bad nonetheless. I can agree with that. I think the take on Depp that most "wine snobs" have is that one of the vintages he bought up was incredibly rare and meant to be savored and he bought every bottle on the market and chugged it like Bud Light.
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Jul 26, 2020 15:07
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Rhyno posted:I can agree with that. I think the take on Depp that most "wine snobs" have is that one of the vintages he bought up was incredibly rare and meant to be savored and he bought every bottle on the market and chugged it like Bud Light. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure wine has an upper limit on how good it is when you drink that much and if not for the consumption of richass alcoholic celebrities, what the hell else is it for? Reminded that it's a bit of a plot point in Brewster's Millions that buying expensive wine and drinking it is one way Brewster can legitimately spend his money while fulfilling the terms of the challenge.
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Jul 26, 2020 15:31
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Ghost Leviathan posted:On the other hand, I'm pretty sure wine has an upper limit on how good it is when you drink that much and if not for the consumption of richass alcoholic celebrities, what the hell else is it for? Worth noting that before any of the abuse allegations dropped there were multiple stories about how Depp was spending more than he was taking in by a fair margin. Someone should tell him he's not starring in the Brewsters remake.
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Jul 26, 2020 15:34
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GrandpaPants posted:https://twitter.com/trappedinazorb/status/1287169227627982848 So thats Shane Carruth posting a picture that includes a restraining order filed against him by Amy Seimetz.
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Jul 26, 2020 15:36
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What's even the point of that? That's way too perfectly framed, not to mention the movie they worked together on, to be a mistake.
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Jul 26, 2020 15:41
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Everything that i've heard about him this year suggests he's a deranged rear end in a top hat on every level of life.
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Jul 26, 2020 16:20
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:Although, I admit I lost the thread on the Depp case awhile ago, but wasn't it as simple as his side mostly being crickets and Heard just taking the narrative. I didn't follow it at the start and it's hard to tell now, but as soon as the tape came out most people pretty much flipped around on it and it's been fairly consistent from there. So yeah, a case of NDAs and lawyers settling it in Heard favor due to Depp's problems and her snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, I guess. Actually, Depp had worse than crickets—J.K. Rowling was his most ardent and public defender. Not just in defending his casting in the Harry Potter movies, but actually contesting Heard's claims. And while Rowling hadn't come out as an out-and-out transphobe quite yet, she was very unpopular among extremely online people, and that was sort of the kiss of death for Depp on Twitter.
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Jul 26, 2020 16:57
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Rhyno posted:Worth noting that before any of the abuse allegations dropped there were multiple stories about how Depp was spending more than he was taking in by a fair margin. Someone should tell him he's not starring in the Brewsters remake. It strikes me as really, really lovely to doubt an abuse victim's story on the basis on making bad financial decisions.
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Jul 26, 2020 17:48
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In fact, that's kind of my point--people accepted Heard's account because they were annoyed with Depp, not because they cared about the abuse a woman suffered. Honestly, Heard was not especially credible from the get-go; she was already known to have beaten her exes in public, and claimed she was the one being subject to abuse (homophobia, on the part of the cop who stopped her from actively whaling on her then-girlfriend, who as it happens was an out lesbian).
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I think it's a little of Column A, a little of Column B. People were definitely tired of Depp, (and Rowling being his only supporter didn't help) but there's still a huge reluctance to admit that women can be abusers too. Case in point: is it just me or did the Asia Argento allegations just fizzle out?
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Jul 26, 2020 17:59
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It strikes me as really, really lovely to doubt an abuse victim's story on the basis on making bad financial decisions. I don't know if it influenced my opinions of him to be honest. I do still think he's being a fool with his money. https://www.businessinsider.com/johnny-depp-money-spending-habits-2017-5#:~:text=Inside%20Johnny%20Depp's%20'extravagant%20and,him%20%242%20million%20a%20month&text=It%20also%20revealed%20that%20Depp,of%20extras%20waiting%20for%20hours.
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Jul 26, 2020 18:16
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AceOfFlames posted:I think it's a little of Column A, a little of Column B. People were definitely tired of Depp, (and Rowling being his only supporter didn't help) but there's still a huge reluctance to admit that women can be abusers too. Case in point: is it just me or did the Asia Argento allegations just fizzle out? At the time no one was accusing heard of beating Depp. Women being abusers had nothing to do with the fact that we all jumped on board the blame train. Any time on other forums and probably? This one people posted about Depp in a good light or said he shouldnt lose his role in Harry Potter people would trot out the believe women line.
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Jul 26, 2020 22:25
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"Women can be abusers" gets drumbeaten so hard by online misogynists that it calls into question what team someone is playing for when they bring it up.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:"Women can be abusers" gets drumbeaten so hard by online misogynists that it calls into question what team someone is playing for when they bring it up. And it doesn’t help that any time that I’ve tried googling the story to find out what the hell is even going on now, the side defending Depp gets drowned out online by MRA assholes using it as the perfect example of how every accusation against men needs to be called into question. Not that Depp deserves to suffer as a result, but it’s made it next to impossible for me to see any story accusing Heard without me mentally saying, “Well gently caress this,” and closing the tab. I’m not kidding. Searching online for this story tends to get me a lot of forum posts saying things like, “loving bitch getting what she deserves,” and, “What a shocker, the woman made the whole thing up,” and I mentally tune out any more arguments. This one has been hard to follow, to the point where I’ve felt predisposed to not believe Depp, even if I know for a fact that that’s not fair. If anyone can break it down a bit easier for me, I’d honestly appreciate it.
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Gorn Myson posted:https://twitter.com/UpstreamColor/status/1281691019692486657?s=20 Christ how do you self own this badly Sonic porn would have been better
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thrawn527 posted:And it doesn’t help that any time that I’ve tried googling the story to find out what the hell is even going on now, the side defending Depp gets drowned out online by MRA assholes using it as the perfect example of how every accusation against men needs to be called into question. Not that Depp deserves to suffer as a result, but it’s made it next to impossible for me to see any story accusing Heard without me mentally saying, “Well gently caress this,” and closing the tab. I might have some details and the timeline a little messed up but basically 1) Johnny Depp became a drunken, drug addled mess in public. One time even cutting himself on a broken bottle while wasted and almost dying of MRSA in the hospital when he got stitches. 2) Amber Heard and Depp start divorce proceedings, Heard alleged abuse, Depp denies it but doesn't accuse her of anything. 3) Depp's friend comedian Doug Stanhope publishes an essay saying he knows it's bullshit because Heard was the abusive one and threatened Depp saying if they ever got a divorce she would tell everyone he beat her. Everyone assumes Doug Stanhope is being a misogynistic rear end because, well, it's Doug Stanhope. 4) Divorce is finalized, Depp and Heard are both under NDAs, Heard donates her $7 million settlement to RAINN, there's some minor outcry about Depp being in the Harry Potter spinoff, but nothing comes of it because JK Rowling doesn't actually give a gently caress about women. 5) #metoo is getting bigger, Heard publishes an op-ed in the Washington Post about backlash she received for speaking out about her abuse, doesn't name Depp in the piece, but we aren't loving idiots. 6) Depp's lawyers sue her and a British tabloid for libel. Audio recordings of couples therapy sessions get leaked to the press (probably by Depp's lawyers or publicist) showing that at the very least Heard was the physically abusive one. That story in number 1 about him cutting his finger because he was blackout drunk, he probably wasn't sober but the finger got cut when Heard threw a glass bottle at him. 7) Most recent leak is video evidence that Heard physically attacked her sister on a night when Heard and her sister testified it was the first time she struck Depp and only because Depp had attacked the both of them.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:What's even the point of that? That's way too perfectly framed, not to mention the movie they worked together on, to be a mistake. Yeah it really does look like it was done on purpose (because why else would you have a restraining order just randomly laying around like that), but why would he do it in purpose? There was nothing he could have possibly gained from this, it's just bizarre.
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It could genuinely be a dumb error. It could also be a galaxy brain way to cause her harm without breaking the order. By 'outing' her he's removing her agency about whether to keep that private or not, and forcing her into dealing with it.
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Jul 27, 2020 02:22
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Yeah it really does look like it was done on purpose (because why else would you have a restraining order just randomly laying around like that), but why would he do it in purpose? There was nothing he could have possibly gained from this, it's just bizarre. It's what appears to be two pieces of mail next to each other, that part doesn't seem weird. It is a little bizarre how we can see just enough info to figure out what it is.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:It could genuinely be a dumb error. It could also be a galaxy brain way to cause her harm without breaking the order. By 'outing' her he's removing her agency about whether to keep that private or not, and forcing her into dealing with it. Bingo bingo bingo As has been pointed out in GenChat when this got posted, Amy has a movie coming out, and he might just be trying to ram personal issues into what’s supposed to be a bright moment for her, perhaps even potentially forcing her to have to recall the trauma since it only takes one rear end in a top hat on a Zoom call to go “so you have a restraining order against your former boyfriend, director Shane Carruth...” It’s an abuser’s way to try to get a little bit more pain out of someone without, y’know, doing something that gets them arrested
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Jul 27, 2020 03:46
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He put it in an unrelated reply to someone else's cordial correspondence. That would be like 5D Diabolical and there's better ways to burn not just bridges, but the whole island. If he had nothing to lose he would do a huge meltdown callout post
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Alan Smithee posted:He put it in an unrelated reply to someone else's cordial correspondence. That would be like 5D Diabolical and there's better ways to burn not just bridges, but the whole island. If he had nothing to lose he would do a huge meltdown callout post https://twitter.com/mattzollerseitz/status/1287285182760980480
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That makes all of this make a LOT more sense. Anyway, Amy Seimetz's upcoming movie is called She Dies Tomorrow and it looks great. Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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Jul 27, 2020 05:16
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Yeesh, what a mess all around
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Jul 27, 2020 06:18
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As someone else found on Twitter, Caruth rents a place for 6k a month, so maybe if he dialed back on that a little he might have found more money to make his movies. And as another user pointed out, Caruth started talking a lot about his old projects all of a sudden (and his leaving the industry) pretty much the day after that order was filed against him.
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Jul 27, 2020 11:16
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The best thing about this is that Carruth actually posted that picture on July 10th. I bet he was kind of disappointed no one bothered to check his twitter for two weeks.
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I would say especially since that's apparently the initial Temporary Restraining Order (to protect victims, it can be issued without having to prove anything in it) I can imagine he's seeing it as a power move since it's not 'official' yet. He can show it off like he doesn't care, especially if he intends to contest it. Although maybe he's been through this before with others, and I'm not saying that's definitely what he's doing.
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https://variety.com/2020/film/news/shane-carruth-accused-abusing-amy-seimetz-1234717339/quote:In a May 15 message, which is attached to her request, Carruth allegedly said “You are Shiva, the goddess of death. I see you. I will know when it’s time for you to be done… You should be scared. You don’t know what I’m going to do… You should be scared.” 
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Hey, anyone interested in a career in effects work with Weta Workshops? Hope you're interested in getting creeped on too! https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12342642 Peter Jackson can go eat a gently caress, that piece of poo poo Tory.
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Has anything come from Ray Parks being a huge creep? I've not seen any coverage or discussion of it.
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Vagabundo posted:Hey, anyone interested in a career in effects work with Weta Workshops? Hope you're interested in getting creeped on too! https://twitter.com/1NewsNZ/status/1288007735024316416?s=20 one with video interviews though identities concealed
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PriorMarcus posted:Has anything come from Ray Parks being a huge creep? I've not seen any coverage or discussion of it. the running theory is still gossip but facts as far as I can tell are: Ray's insta posts video of someone receiving oral from a woman. Speculation is it's his wife and this is revenge porn but nobody has confirmed. Ray posted stuff on Daniel Logan's (child Boba Fett in the prequels) insta calling him a bad friend so people put two and two and assume he had something to do with this. Again speculation. Someone posts as their kids claiming to be abused Ray's wife does damage control and anyone who asks if it's real is told the posts from their "kids" is completely fake. She does not confirm anything else Ray was posting weird stuff over some time and raging at people in the comments (think he had said vaguely hostile stuff to his wife before the meltdown even as far as months ago). Everyone is in various states of lockdown now. Ray's insta has commenting turned off. Wife is in private mode. Daniel's is still open though he hasn't said anything and people are shitposting in his replies. It didn't help that his second to last post was a pic of the wife talking about working out together It's all weird and nothing is really concrete about what who is involved to what extent. I did meet Ray and Daniel once and they were buddy buddy at the time making this even weirder. Someone else told me Daniel was a scummy dude for what that's worth
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Alan Smithee posted:Layna is a friend, looks like she took down her twitter but all the stuff she posted is still on fb. Why does their sign literally look like that of a setting of a Friday the 13th ripoff
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Alan Smithee posted:now that I look at it, it totally looks like a babbie's first metalshop class project, made from the scrap pile "I propositioned my first female employee under this sign."
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GrandpaPants posted:https://variety.com/2020/film/news/shane-carruth-accused-abusing-amy-seimetz-1234717339/ Shiva is a god, what a dumbass.
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