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Late to the party but I checked out Extraction last night and liked it. Felt like a mixture of John Wick (for most of it) but that first main action scene to start the extraction felt like it was much more Raid-influenced. There was an interesting twist of sorts with the main physical villain that was pretty cool. I know there was a lot of talk about the "one shot" sequence but I kept skimming over it in this thread since I didn't want spoilers so I don't know what the consensus was. It didn't seem to be actually one shot but that never matters to me. There was one part that went through the rear car window that took me out of it and Hemsworth's driving seemed overly fake but overall I think they pulled off a really good sequence.
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Boco_T posted:Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) (2020) - 3/5 Now check out the Harley Quinn animated series. It starts off as a cartoon that says gently caress and has gratuitous gore and turns into a serious cartoon about relationships and overcoming your inner demons... that says gently caress and has gratuitous gore.
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About an hour until the latest Adkins Art of Action unlocks on youtube. He's only gone and got Gareth Evans! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLxB-lwN33Q
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Holy poo poo, here's Wesley Snipes giving an interview AS BLADE. it's open season on all suckheads
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So, it seems that Extraction was enough of a hit for Netflix for them to hand over $200m to the Russos to make some sort of contract killer movie starring Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans. https://deadline.com/2020/07/netflix-the-gray-man-ryan-gosling-chris-evans-joe-russo-anthony-russo-directing-1202987267/ quote:The action thriller is a deadly duel between killers as Gentry (Gosling) is hunted across the globe by Lloyd Hansen (Evans), a former cohort of Gentry’s at the CIA. The Gray Man turned into a bestselling book series, and the expectation is that Gosling will continue in multiple installments. The project was developed years back at New Regency as a Brad Pitt/James Gray vehicle, but it stalled. The Russos quietly have been developing it for years.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:About an hour until the latest Adkins Art of Action unlocks on youtube. He's only gone and got Gareth Evans! this one and the last one with Michael Jai White get into specifics about how and why hollywood gets action scenes wrong, and how hard it is to get them right. MJW gives a specific example i'm going to remember: the shot in Raiders where Indy, his back to the camera, shoots the swordsman in the background, and then turns around facing towards the camera to go about his business. in 95% of hollywood productions, that would have been three separate shots: indy shooting, a closeup of the swordsman getting shot and reacting, and a tight shot of indy turning around. turns out that editors want to edit, and if you give them a lot of footage and angles, they will edit the power out of an action scene, and it takes a clear vision and strong directorial hand to prevent this from happening before the scene is filmed to avoid it. Evans talks a lot about how he relies heavily on pre-viz to know exactly the shots he needs to shoot to have coverage before the shooting begins.
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dokmo posted:this one and the last one with Michael Jai White get into specifics about how and why hollywood gets action scenes wrong, and how hard it is to get them right. MJW gives a specific example i'm going to remember: the shot in Raiders where Indy, his back to the camera, shoots the swordsman in the background, and then turns around facing towards the camera to go about his business. in 95% of hollywood productions, that would have been three separate shots: indy shooting, a closeup of the swordsman getting shot and reacting, and a tight shot of indy turning around. turns out that editors want to edit, and if you give them a lot of footage and angles, they will edit the power out of an action scene, and it takes a clear vision and strong directorial hand to prevent this from happening before the scene is filmed to avoid it. Evans talks a lot about how he relies heavily on pre-viz to know exactly the shots he needs to shoot to have coverage before the shooting begins. I've been watching a few of these interviews with Scott Adkins and other martial arts stars recently. It feels like they have a better understanding of the mechanics of filming, editing, and camera work than many other actors. Is that just because they have to be knowledgeable about it in order to make their choreography and stunts look good?
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It is that and also a function of working on really tight budgets (and usually tight shooting schedules as well), so you really have to nail your scenes as fast as possible, in as few takes as possible.
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MrBling posted:So, it seems that Extraction was enough of a hit for Netflix for them to hand over $200m to the Russos to make some sort of contract killer movie starring Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans. I love that for the Russo's, "this is us moving into a real world setting" is two master assassins engaging in an ongoing assassin duel across the globe and one of them is Captain America. Grenrow posted:I've been watching a few of these interviews with Scott Adkins and other martial arts stars recently. It feels like they have a better understanding of the mechanics of filming, editing, and camera work than many other actors. Is that just because they have to be knowledgeable about it in order to make their choreography and stunts look good? Yea from what I've seen Adkins say about his productions, he's basically showing up on set as the star and the fight choreographer knowing that they've gotta get a good fight scene on film in like a single day, or maybe two days. So that responsibility and time pressure forces you to know your poo poo better than most others in the business. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jul 20, 2020 |
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Grenrow posted:I've been watching a few of these interviews with Scott Adkins and other martial arts stars recently. It feels like they have a better understanding of the mechanics of filming, editing, and camera work than many other actors. Is that just because they have to be knowledgeable about it in order to make their choreography and stunts look good? I think they get their knowledge because most of them have a history of shooting backyard shorts on cheap cameras for fun as well as being familiar with action movie history. On the episode with Adkins and Michael Jai White, they talk about how they have to protect their brand as action guys, they have a keen awareness of how they are being portrayed, and if their action scenes aren't being shot well or if the director doesn't know what he's doing, they will step in and take over. I don't think this kind of knowledge is limited to action actors.
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Basebf555 posted:I love that for the Russo's, "this is us moving into a real world setting" is two master assassins engaging in an ongoing assassin duel across the globe and one of them is Captain America.
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Payndz posted:I'm going to guess that a seriously large portion of that $200m is going on star wages and writer/producer/director fees, because otherwise it's pumping Avengers/Avatar/Pirates-level money into what's essentially a Bourne film. (The last Bourne had a $120m budget.) and gently caress knows where most of that went.
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This week's picks, including a true surprise. Debt Collectors (2020) - 3.5/5 Excellent sequel to an excellent movie. I don't blame Johnson going back to the well with French and Sue, they are very good characters with fantastic chemistry. Another straightforward plot, but with some added depth to it that builds on the events of the first movie. Top notch fights along with a little insane gun action. Bonus points because underneath it all, it's a boxing vs. MMA movie. Legacy of Lies (2020) - 3/5 Legacy of Lies is on the opposite end of the plot spectrum from Adkins films like The Debt Collector. Needlessly complex with shadow organizations betraying each other, though honestly not as convoluted as I was expecting going in. The action is excellently staged and shot, and there is a good amount of it in the film. The opening sequence is especially cool. Ukraine has a lot of really beautiful locations and they do a lot to enhance the look of the film. This is a low-budget movie, but it does end up looking quite good. Honor Kneafsey was a very good child actor that added a lot to the film in her role. Adrian Bol also managed to add to the film with the spooky "Adkins is haunted" images. Overall, there's a lot to like here and I don't think Adkins fans will be disappointed. Cagefighter: Worlds Collide (2020) - 3.5/5 Sometimes you look at the premise and cast of a movie and think "now this is a movie that's aimed at me." Then you watch it and realize that, yes, you are truly the target audience for the film. And Cagefighter is aimed squarely at me, the man who has voluntarily watched Never Back Down twice. All the seams of a low budget movie are visible here, but you can also see that director Jesse Quinones truly cares about and understands both MMA and wrestling. The story is very basic, the acting is mostly basic, but there are hints here and there that hit all the right notes for my interests. Jonathan "Jon Moxley" Good is off the charts great in this movie, and he's one of the best performers in the world right now. Gina Gershon also puts in a strong effort as a fight promoter. The rest of the acting was about what you'd expect for something at this level, but it never sticks out in a grating way. Montagnani was serviceable in the lead role. The main thing I think the movie was missing was that there was the opportunity for some deeper psychological/emotional depiction of the fighter's mind in the situations in the film, but the movie mostly stuck to a surface level view. It plays like a documentary of a fight story from beginning to end, and it that way it mostly works. I think you'll enjoy this if you like MMA or pro wrestling, or if you like more realistic action or sports movies. It's a low-budget MMA Rocky that is a nice time. Boco_T fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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I thought Greyhound was pretty solid. I went in knowing its basically just a 90min CGI WW2 Naval simulation and found myself thoroughly entertained. I love that subject of history so it was cool kind of getting a fly on the wall experience of just a big naval battle play by play. I thought the VFX were pretty good too? Not sure why that was a common complaint with critics.
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I've started Baahubali 2 on the recommendation and honestly, a lot more movies should start with songs about how awesome the main character is while he picks flowers for his mum.
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Snowman_McK posted:I've started Baahubali 2 on the recommendation and honestly, a lot more movies should start with songs about how awesome the main character is while he picks flowers for his mum. Baahubali 2 is so loving good. It’s a little less action, but Eega is another film from the same director that I loved and it’s equally fun and creative.
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Snowman_McK posted:and gently caress knows where most of that went.
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Payndz posted:Matt Damon reportedly got $26 million to do Jason Bourne, which someone noted worked out as over $1m per line of dialogue. Paul Greengrass probably got several million to co-write and direct (Damon said he wouldn't do another Bourne without him, so he had Universal over a barrel), and then there were nine other producers and executive producers (plus a whole bunch of co- and associate producers) as well as Damon and Greengrass. I wouldn't be surprised if the above the line costs were $40m on day one of shooting. This is a very dumb question but do producers get paid big bucks? I was kinda under the impression that many producers are the people who put up the money in return for a credit and "a cut of future profits lol", not the people whose names take up a large portion of the budget. (I'm a dumb baby who knows little about Hollywood I just enjoy my punch punch kick kick blam blam shows  )
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jojoinnit posted:This is a very dumb question but do producers get paid big bucks? I was kinda under the impression that many producers are the people who put up the money in return for a credit and "a cut of future profits lol", not the people whose names take up a large portion of the budget. (I'm a dumb baby who knows little about Hollywood I just enjoy my punch punch kick kick blam blam shows The short version is that the fee structure and the duties can vary wildly. Sometimes, the "produced by" title is merely a formality and someone has little to no involvement in the actual film (e.g., Spielberg having an executive producer title on the Transformers sequels is largely a branding exercise). For another example, Star Treks II - V were produced by Harve Bennett, and he was in charge of the creative direction, while other people like Bob Sallin handled the money and budgeting side of things. The long version is ... well, paging therattle, as he is an actual producer and can speak with much more authenticity and correct information than I. Timby fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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quote:Payscale reports that the median annual salary for a producer in TV and films is just $66,121. However, the typical Hollywood film producer earns $750,000 to $1 million per movie, though first-time producers might make only $250,000. Producers behind monster box office hits can pull in tens of millions. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/how-much-everyone-on-a-movie-set-gets-paid-2017-10%3famp Don't know how that breaks down between agreed salary/upfront payments and points, though. FWIW, Frank Marshall, the production head honcho on the Bourne films, is estimated to earn $24m a year.
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FancyMike posted:Baahubali 2 is so loving good. Right ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Fpm-T1sUM There's no way that scene should work as shot; most directors couldn't shoot it as written. And yet there it is, the platonic ideal of the action scene, at least in the "two romantic leads fight side by side" category.
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Anyone checked out MONEY PLANE yet?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aETz_dRDEys "Bulletproof Casino In The Sky" - I'm in.
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midge posted:Anyone checked out MONEY PLANE yet?! With a name and premise like Money Plane it's obviously supposed to have some amount of camp to it to make up for the lack of budget, but none of the humor in the movie is remotely funny. There's also almost no action and the stuff that's in there looks really bad, both in editing and direction. There's about five minutes of over-the-top Kelsey Grammer insanity that saves this movie from the dreaded One Half Star rating but do not waste your time on this.
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Boco_T posted:This movie is 82 minutes long and it feels like triple that. Unwatchable in almost every way. I get that people want to make low budget movies, but the look and quality of the things in the film is so bad that it's very difficult to get into it. Edge is a charisma void, the script is horrible. There is another odd-couple/ buddy cop movie starring Edge and Jamie Kennedy where Edge shows a bit of charisma, but the movie is as boring as Money Plane sounds. The most entertaining thing about it is the contrast between it's title, Breaking the Rules, and Edge's actions, which involve only the softest and most pleasant rule-breaking.
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Anyone see The Old Guard on Netflix, about a bunch of immortal mercenaries? Now that TV is going to die with the pandemic I’m watching a movie a night. It’s pretty good, but that might be because Charlize Theron is the lead. There’s a few good fight sequences and she carries around a battle ax.
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Pillowpants posted:Anyone see The Old Guard on Netflix, about a bunch of immortal mercenaries?
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midge posted:Anyone checked out MONEY PLANE yet?! They couldn't get Snipes and Harrelson back for this one?
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Oops I watched a movie every day this week, the 2020 train rolls on. Also I made a major score this week as I was at Wal-Mart and I paid $5 for a set with Sniper 1-6 in it, so I can grind through those soon to catch myself up to Sniper 8. Becky (2020) - 1.5/5 Kevin James looks exactly like The Big Show. Interesting to see that three writers and two directors gets you... whatever this is. While it does win a few points for cartoon-ish Home Alone-style traps, the premise and the script are awful. The child actor lead is not very good and is actively written to be extremely annoying in the first half. Also, there is a lot of unnecessary violence against dogs in this movie. Which is not needed to make the characters evil, they're already loving Nazis. The Silencing (2020) - 1.5/5 A decent effort, but in the end The Silencing just doesn't stick out as doing anything particularly well. It's hamstrung by a plot that's on the level of a weekly procedural TV episode, completely with a ridiculous number of red herring twists considering there are only like 8 actors with speaking parts in the film. Coster-Waldau and Wallis are pretty good, as is McClarnon. The whole movie is very dark and muddy, and that includes the limited action sequences. The premise of the atlatl spear thrower being an important part of the movie is interesting in theory but nothing about the way it's shot adds to the movie. It's rare for me to see a movie that isn't necessarily awful in any way, but is just so thoroughly forgettable. Blood and Money (2020) - 2.5/5 It's 2020 and we have received TWO movies about 70-year-old Tom Berenger firing a sniper rifle. What a fantastic world to live in. Blood and Money is a perfectly serviceable and entertaining entry in the low-budget wilderness action genre. Berenger does a good job as an aging and haunted old man, and the beautiful snowy Maine wilds get a lot of value out of the movie's modest budget. The first half hour is a slow character build that perhaps does not get completely paid off in the last hour's action focus. The premise in general is a bit of a stretch but it works enough to keep things moving. Overall the movie isn't excellent in any area except Berenger's performance, but it also doesn't have any glaring flaws. I haven't seen Sniper: Assassin's End yet, but I'm interested to see how the two stack up with each other. The Old Guard (2020) - 2/5, Netflix Premise is bad, plot is bad, script is bad, and every action scene with Charlize is the rawest most awesome poo poo ever
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Three more. I also watched The Lovebirds and gave it 3/5 but despite the action tag it's not an action movie so I'm not officially listing it here. Sniper (1993) - 2.5/5, DVD My IMDb history indicates to me that I originally saw this movie in March 2003, when I was 17 and still in high school. I rated it 3 stars out of 5. Running it back 17 years later, when I'm trying to watch all the Sniper movies on my way to 2020's Assassin's End, I think I fall slightly below where I did the first time. Berenger definitely rules in this, as he usually does in everything. But the main things I was down on was the plot and Billy Zane's character. I don't think at this point I can really get very into a "US imperialist covert assassination of a foreign national to sway an election plot" in the same way that I would have barely cared about that as a teen. For Billy Zane's Miller, it's much more straightforward. They've made the character so eminently hate-able throughout most of the movie that it's almost impossible to have any sympathy for the admittedly interesting PTSD plot that they try to build later on. How can you care when he's such an rear end in a top hat? Sniper's still a pretty good movie, though with weird pacing. The sniping parts rule, and the tension they deliver is strong. I think there's enough of a skeleton here to build a franchise on, though I worry that they will be hurt by a low budget since this one was presumably a "real movie" and was quite sparse. We shall see. Sniper 2 (2002) - 3/5, DVD Sniper 2 is a better film than Sniper. Bokeem Woodbine is such an upgrade from Billy Zane and by filming in Hungary, Baxley gets the movie's modest budget to go a long way. The plot's a bit better as far as the scale of "disgusting me with American political assassinations" goes, and Berenger is tremendous as always. Baxley also seems to recognize the limits of the "sniper action" and reduces its appearance to key moments while mixing in a lot of other cool gun action parts. It seems strange to compliment a movie named Sniper for not having too many sniper parts, but how many times can you really go to the well with scope shots? Tribal: Get Out Alive (2020) - 1.5/5 First time feature directing effort from Routledge, who did stunts on Accident Man, Avengement, and I Am Vengeance: Retaliation. It shows, the stunts and fights in this movie are the strong point. It's clear that the person cutting the trailer knew this as well, because the fights depicted in the trailer were what convinced me to watch the film. Unfortunately, they are but a small portion of the movie's runtime, the rest of which is occupied by a sub-par zombie horror plot. I am absolutely not a horror guy, but even to me it seemed like this part of it was poorly realized on the budget they were constrained to. Phythian and O'Hennessy, the two leads, do a good job in their performance and their action sequences. The fights are shot well and not overcut. I could honestly recommend checking out the combat and fast-forwarding through the rest.
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Nemesis 2 is the sequel to Albert Puyn's strangely dope and influental 1992 cyberpunk action movie Nemesis. It trades genderfluid cyborg gunplay with being bizarrely horny for an extremely muscular white East African tribal bikini babe and a weak predator knockoff sent back in time by the machines to kill her. It could have been way worse for such a disastrously sounding pastiche of many better movies, but I was entertained throughout.
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married but discreet posted:Nemesis 2 is the sequel to Albert Puyn's strangely dope and influental 1992 cyberpunk action movie Nemesis... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrvBE3jsCEY
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So like Predator, but hornier? The Walrus has been roused from his stupor. I'm giving this a pro-watch tomorrow.
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TheOmegaWalrus posted:So like Predator, but hornier? HARDly possible.
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married but discreet posted:Nemesis 2 is the sequel to Albert Puyn's strangely dope and influental 1992 cyberpunk action movie Nemesis. It trades genderfluid cyborg gunplay with being bizarrely horny for an extremely muscular white East African tribal bikini babe and a weak predator knockoff sent back in time by the machines to kill her. It could have been way worse for such a disastrously sounding pastiche of many better movies, but I was entertained throughout. I quite enjoyed nemesis and so watched the sequel. It has like three movies worth of material buried in the opening narration.
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I've only seen two Albert Pyun movies (Cyborg and Mean Guns) and both of them also felt like they were crammed full of ideas.
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dokmo posted:I've only seen two Albert Pyun movies (Cyborg and Mean Guns) and both of them also felt like they were crammed full of ideas. Pyun is what happens when a guy has a bajillion ideas but not nearly enough money and only some of the talent to pull them off. the first nemesis slaps, though.
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married but discreet posted:Nemesis 2 is the sequel to Albert Puyn's strangely dope and influental 1992 cyberpunk action movie Nemesis. It trades genderfluid cyborg gunplay with being bizarrely horny for an extremely muscular white East African tribal bikini babe and a weak predator knockoff sent back in time by the machines to kill her. It could have been way worse for such a disastrously sounding pastiche of many better movies, but I was entertained throughout. There is 5 Nemesis movies. FIVE.
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married but discreet posted:Nemesis 2 is the sequel to Albert Puyn's strangely dope and influental 1992 cyberpunk action movie Nemesis. It trades genderfluid cyborg gunplay with being bizarrely horny for an extremely muscular white East African tribal bikini babe and a weak predator knockoff sent back in time by the machines to kill her. It could have been way worse for such a disastrously sounding pastiche of many better movies, but I was entertained throughout. Also the predator knockoff was played by John Wick's Chad Stahelski who walked off set so the bad guy just sort of disappears for awhile before becoming an obviously different person wearing the suit. midge posted:There is 5 Nemesis movies. The third one is a clip show of the first two movies. I've seen 14 of Albert Pyun's movies and someday I will get to see all of them. duz fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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duz posted:I've seen 14 of Albert Pyun's movies and someday I will get to see all of them. How can you say this and not provide a Top 5?!
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midge posted:How can you say this and not provide a Top 5?! I second this request, rank all Pyuns
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