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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
The chikage eats through the one reborn so fast but ebrietas not so much... I’m doin a lot worse this play through than I did with arcane build

Also the camera in this fight hhnnnnnnngg

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Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.
Ebrietas I was overlevelled, i went to the upper cathedral super late, I don't think i even know what the hell i did other than hug the side like you do with Sseath the Scaleless

We Got Us A Bread
Jul 23, 2007

After two days of trying: gently caress YOU SHARK GIANTS! gently caress YOU SO HARD! THE RAKUYO IS MINE!

I..may have remembered that the Shaman Bone Blade existed.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I had more trouble with the sharks and with the cursed Amygdala than with the Orphan.

Time_pants
Jun 25, 2012

Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

verbal enema posted:

my friend is playing bloodborne and her not dodging or sprinting and only using the strong charge attacks is just plain painful

Hunter Axe user, eh?

Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019

Wowporn posted:

The chikage eats through the one reborn so fast but ebrietas not so much... I’m doin a lot worse this play through than I did with arcane build

Also the camera in this fight hhnnnnnnngg

I’m pretty sure every Miyazaki game has at least one camera boss fight, even the Armored Core games he directed.

Veib
Dec 10, 2007


Wowporn posted:

The chikage eats through the one reborn so fast but ebrietas not so much... I’m doin a lot worse this play through than I did with arcane build

Also the camera in this fight hhnnnnnnngg

Use Bone Marrow Ash and shoot Ebrietas in the face, bloodtinge build was by far the easiest time I've ever had with that fight

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

📡scanning🛰️ for good game 🎮design🦔🦔🦔
Everyone itt so loving haughty like your first Souls experience wasn't some flavor of "R2 deal more damage? Oh God this one doesn't stagger! Unfair bullshit! Okay new tactic: JUMP ATTACK everything"

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT

Simply Simon posted:

Everyone itt so loving haughty like your first Souls experience wasn't some flavor of "R2 deal more damage? Oh God this one doesn't stagger! Unfair bullshit! Okay new tactic: JUMP ATTACK everything"

I didn't even know how to jump attack on command or even how to summon at all until I'd finished bloodborne twice

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

📡scanning🛰️ for good game 🎮design🦔🦔🦔
Different flavor of, then

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Simply Simon posted:

Everyone itt so loving haughty like your first Souls experience wasn't some flavor of "R2 deal more damage? Oh God this one doesn't stagger! Unfair bullshit! Okay new tactic: JUMP ATTACK everything"

my first souls experience was aggroing the chainmail guy at the firelink bonfire and having to learn about spacing and parrying very quickly

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

verbal enema posted:

my friend is playing bloodborne and her not dodging or sprinting and only using the strong charge attacks is just plain painful

Reeks of hunter's axe

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

📡scanning🛰️ for good game 🎮design🦔🦔🦔

scary ghost dog posted:

my first souls experience was aggroing the chainmail guy at the firelink bonfire and having to learn about spacing and parrying very quickly
That's fine but if you charge attack wrong I will slap the controller from your hands!

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

I started souls games spamming R1 and continued to do so

neurotech
Apr 22, 2004

Deep in my dreams and I still hear her callin'
If you're alone, I'll come home.

Does anyone have a invite link to the FROM Goons discord?

Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019
Amygdala down. I liked how bright Nightmare Frontier is and the visual design, but it’s not a very fun level. Amygdala wasn’t too hard with a bunch of bone ash, using the Evelyn, and targeting the head.

I wish all the bosses would at least drop a “boss cold blood” similar to boss Souls so we could at least get a bit of extra lore on some of the bosses.

Celestial Emissary also defeated and I tried a few times on Ebrietas (using the Chikage) but just couldn’t quite do it. Did try help a few people as well but we wiped each time. Is there a good, easy way to farm for echoes? I need to restock in vials, bullets, and other consumables.

Upper Cathedral Ward maybe one of my favorite areas (even if it is a bit small). It also answers a very straight forward lore question I had: where are most of the Choir employees? (Answer: they’ve been slaughter by, or turned into, wolves. The Orphanage is completely overrun).

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Pulcinella posted:

Amygdala down. I liked how bright Nightmare Frontier is and the visual design, but it’s not a very fun level. Amygdala wasn’t too hard with a bunch of bone ash, using the Evelyn, and targeting the head.

I wish all the bosses would at least drop a “boss cold blood” similar to boss Souls so we could at least get a bit of extra lore on some of the bosses.

Celestial Emissary also defeated and I tried a few times on Ebrietas (using the Chikage) but just couldn’t quite do it. Did try help a few people as well but we wiped each time. Is there a good, easy way to farm for echoes? I need to restock in vials, bullets, and other consumables.

Upper Cathedral Ward maybe one of my favorite areas (even if it is a bit small). It also answers a very straight forward lore question I had: where are most of the Choir employees? (Answer: they’ve been slaughter by, or turned into, wolves. The Orphanage is completely overrun).

The Lecture Hall is your best bet at the point in the game where you're at, just go slay all the scholars on each floor and you can get quite a bit of blood echoes each time

Time_pants
Jun 25, 2012

Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

Does anyone have a Chalice Dungeon they'd be willing to share that is especially good for earning Blood Chunks/Rocks and Insight? Edited or unedited. It makes no difference to me as long as it's as quick and as painless as possible.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Pulcinella posted:

Amygdala down. I liked how bright Nightmare Frontier is and the visual design, but it’s not a very fun level. Amygdala wasn’t too hard with a bunch of bone ash, using the Evelyn, and targeting the head.

I wish all the bosses would at least drop a “boss cold blood” similar to boss Souls so we could at least get a bit of extra lore on some of the bosses.

Celestial Emissary also defeated and I tried a few times on Ebrietas (using the Chikage) but just couldn’t quite do it. Did try help a few people as well but we wiped each time. Is there a good, easy way to farm for echoes? I need to restock in vials, bullets, and other consumables.

Upper Cathedral Ward maybe one of my favorite areas (even if it is a bit small). It also answers a very straight forward lore question I had: where are most of the Choir employees? (Answer: they’ve been slaughter by, or turned into, wolves. The Orphanage is completely overrun).

I actually think the Choir became the Emmisary and it's blue man group myself, but yes the Upper Cathedral Ward is a mess and the Choir are all gone.

UnbearablyBlight
Nov 4, 2009

hello i am your heart how nice to meet you

Sakurazuka posted:

I started souls games spamming R1 and continued to do so

If R1 is good enough for the sky and the cosmos it’s good enough for me.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

neurotech posted:

Does anyone have a invite link to the FROM Goons discord?


https://discord.gg/xF6nQg

J.A.B.C.
Jul 2, 2007

There's no need to rush to be an adult.


Every Souls Game: R1 spam! Do it you fool!

Sekiro: Hahah! My weak points are reversed! You'll never defeat me!

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

J.A.B.C. posted:

Every Souls Game: R1 spam! Do it you fool!

Sekiro: Hahah! My weak points are reversed! You'll never defeat me!

but r1 spam works better than ever in sekiro. u just r1 spam until they deflect u, then u deflect them and go back to spamming

Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019

drrockso20 posted:

The Lecture Hall is your best bet at the point in the game where you're at, just go slay all the scholars on each floor and you can get quite a bit of blood echoes each time

Just an update that this was a great a great spot. They also frequently drop 3 bullets so I was generally getting ~12 bullets per run, which meant I could dump all my blood cash into vials and bone ash.

Upped my arcane just enough to just at 15 arc items. Old Hunters Bone is a little disappointing with how short it lasts. From is pretty stingy with how long buffs last. It’s the same in Sekiro where the candies give you a pretty small stat buff that only lasts 30 seconds (and I think at launch the spirit falls lasted even less).


Also defeated Ebrietas. It’s funny that Evrietas’ A Call Beyond is less dangerous (easier to dodge) than Yurie’s is and Yurie spams it way, way more than Ebrietas. The run where I won Ebrietas used it twice and every time I’ve helped someone Ebrietas never used it.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Pulcinella posted:

Just an update that this was a great a great spot. They also frequently drop 3 bullets so I was generally getting ~12 bullets per run, which meant I could dump all my blood cash into vials and bone ash.

Upped my arcane just enough to just at 15 arc items. Old Hunters Bone is a little disappointing with how short it lasts. From is pretty stingy with how long buffs last. It’s the same in Sekiro where the candies give you a pretty small stat buff that only lasts 30 seconds (and I think at launch the spirit falls lasted even less).


Also defeated Ebrietas. It’s funny that Evrietas’ A Call Beyond is less dangerous (easier to dodge) than Yurie’s is and Yurie spams it way, way more than Ebrietas. The run where I won Ebrietas used it twice and every time I’ve helped someone Ebrietas never used it.

The Augur of Ebrietas is the real winner of the low ARC items

We Got Us A Bread
Jul 23, 2007

drrockso20 posted:

The Augur of Ebrietas is the real winner of the low ARC items

100% this. It can stun, it can backstab/visceral, and all for a low bullet cost.

Johnny Landmine
Aug 2, 2004

PURE FUCKING AINOGEDDON
Something about Augur's animation and timing also makes it one of the most satisfying weapons to use in any game I've played in any genre.

Scandalous
Jul 16, 2009
Edit wrong threaad

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Ok I think after Ghost of Tsushima I need a palate cleanser game so I am gonna start a pure 99 arcane dude HERE WE GO!

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Bust Rodd posted:

Ok I think after Ghost of Tsushima I need a palate cleanser game so I am gonna start a pure 99 arcane dude HERE WE GO!

It’s by far my favorite build in Bloodborne out of everything I played. It destroys everything.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

It’s by far my favorite build in Bloodborne out of everything I played. It destroys everything.

Counterpoint: Logarius

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
The thing with Logarius is that he sucks and is kinda hard whether you are perfectly geared and specced for him or not. Because of his resistances nothing really “works” on him better than anything else besides parrying. If the one boss you’re weak to is the boss that isn’t really weak to anything, that feels ok, and Arcane apparently dumpsters everything else.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Bust Rodd posted:

The thing with Logarius is that he sucks and is kinda hard whether you are perfectly geared and specced for him or not. Because of his resistances nothing really “works” on him better than anything else besides parrying. If the one boss you’re weak to is the boss that isn’t really weak to anything, that feels ok, and Arcane apparently dumpsters everything else.

Oh I've done 2 99 Arcane runs. Logarius was the only stumbling block for both. I can parry well, but it still takes forever, even doing it that way.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Just swallow your pride and summon a co-operator for build bottlenecks like that, imo

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
The only time I didn’t have a problem with Logarius was my Cursed Chikage hacked dungeon run because the Chikage itself apparently pantses him, or perhaps 55 BLT for Logarius is high.

WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.
Logarius is weak to +8 weapon in the face.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Logarious has never been a serious roadblock for me even on arcane characters and I don’t exactly understand the reputation, he’s only scaled for the first half of the main game and doesn’t expect you to have 40 points in a damage stat by then so you can just use a physical weapon against him even on an arcane character and it won’t be a nightmare; he also doesn’t block anything important for an all arcane build so you can just out-stat him later with more health

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Gay Rat Wedding posted:

Logarious has never been a serious roadblock for me even on arcane characters and I don’t exactly understand the reputation, he’s only scaled for the first half of the main game and doesn’t expect you to have 40 points in a damage stat by then so you can just use a physical weapon against him even on an arcane character and it won’t be a nightmare; he also doesn’t block anything important for an all arcane build so you can just out-stat him later with more health

For me, i've struggled with his parry timing forever, and its easy to get stuck in a bad pattern of eating his arcane attacks as you make space to heal after whiffing a parry. Also the run back to his arena is among the worst in souls games which means frustration grows very fast as you stew on the way back, and eat a tiny bit of dmg every time as a little needle so you either start at lower health, or eat a vial.

concurrently, a STR or STR/ARC build with Burial Blade utterly annihilates him as you can get into a pattern with the special dodge attack BB has and just drain his health, toss in some parries and you are set.

imhotep
Nov 16, 2009

REDBAR INTENSIFIES
I haven’t had a problem with Logarius since my like.. idk, 3rd playthrough, if I’m doing a STR/quality build, but yeah otherwise he’s hard.

I’m trying a bloodtinge build for the first time, idk how I’ve never done one, and I rushed and got Simon’s Bow Blade, but I think I’d rather use a melee weapon as a main weapon, and keep the bow as the secondary weapon. What’s the quickest one to get? I think ironically the Chikage is locked behind Logarius so I haven’t got it yet, but I just remembered that it’s in one of those hacked save chalices. There’s only like, what, 4 or so BLT weapons? Besides guns I mean, so it’s gonna be easy to choose. Also gonna get the Bloodletter as I’ve never used it.

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Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

Logarius? More like Nofairius

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