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Space Gopher posted:No. Apple is by far the best large mobile hardware manufacturer when it comes to supporting older hardware. I agree with the sentiment of the above post, and for security reasons you should always update the OS on things, but I do have to say that some of Apple's devices have fared better than others with newer versions of operating systems they've released. The iPAD 3 went in the shitter as soon as iOS 7 was released and only got worse from there. It was a bit underpowered to begin with but snappy on iOS 6, and it seemed that with each update it became a little pokier and now its primary use at my house is as a digital picture frame. Core functionality like MPEG-4 decoding and some optimized games still work okay, but man it's slow. The iPad Air 2 has three cores and a good chunk of RAM (for the time) and it was clearly the predecessor to the iPad Pro with its laminated screen. It was really good and has survived the OS upgrades a lot better than its contemporaries (the iPad Mini 3, which is dogshit slow)
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Hey thanks for all the feedback. Real nice. I was on 10.1, I think, and jailbroke. But I haven't found one thing interesting about the jailbreak so, I'll wipe it and update it. The battery is really good. Maybe if I ever get a network drive going from my desktop, I could ssh into it and have access to files from an ipad. Until then it'll probably go in a drawer again. Guess I'll head over to the home networking thread
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My kid still uses an Air 2 every single day for several hours a day and has no issues 
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Jul 28, 2020 16:22
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FCKGW posted:My kid still uses an Air 2 every single day for several hours a day and has no issues Cool, I don't like holding stuff. Probably could use a stand to at least sit it under desktop monitor. Like make it a 5th monitor just dedicated to youtube, or something.
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Jul 28, 2020 16:25
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excellent bird guy posted:Cool, I don't like holding stuff. Probably could use a stand to at least sit it under desktop monitor. Like make it a 5th monitor just dedicated to youtube, or something. Oh yeah, I'm just trying to say that iPad last a lot longer than most people assume. Really the only limiting factor is the battery losing it's charge.
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Space Gopher posted:The big scandal around "Apple is slowing down older devices" happened because they added a function to detect batteries that were so worn [...] People were saying this before that happened; by my recollection it was when iPhone/iOS was relatively young, the OS and apps rapidly increased in complexity but they still supported older phones. So your iPhone 4 that you bought with iOS 4.0, by the time it was on iOS 7 and running apps built for iOS 7 it was extremely slow and there was no way to downgrade, your phone was just permanently slower now. Combined with the aging battery and the heavier use of the limited resources, it felt like a much different device than when it was new. For people who saw them as phones+ rather than mobile computers, this was clearly a degradation in the product over time caused by software updates! The competition didn't have very many updates at all, so if your phone was slow, you could stop running some battery-hungry apps and reset to factory defaults or whatever and your performance would essentially be good as new, but the iPhone was stuck on the iOS you updated it to. I know, you know, we know it's not planned obsolescence but the same thing the PC market went through in the 80s and 90s where your computer couldn't run the latest by the time you got it home from the store, because of the pace of progress. But that was the perception, at least how I remember it.
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Jul 28, 2020 17:02
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I have my iPad Air 2 on the latest OS, it still works pretty well, although I hate that I can't long press to open a website in a new tab. I have to use two fingers and time it exactly right.
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Puppy Galaxy posted:I have my iPad Air 2 on the latest OS, it still works pretty well, although I hate that I can't long press to open a website in a new tab. I have to use two fingers and time it exactly right. ? You can long open in a new tab in iPadOS 13
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track day bro! posted:Yeah, the base one with 4 thunderbolt ports looks like the best bet. I mean I guess I could wait for an arm one or we but I'll be happy if a 2020 one lasts 3 years or so, I've had the 2015 one for 5 years which seems like a good run. If you don't have an immediate need, you might want to wait for ARM. You're going for a 13" laptop, and that's the rumored (*) first wave of ARM Macs released only about 6 months from now. * according to more than one semi-reliable media leak broker journo, not pure rando internet speculation, but take it for whatever you feel it's worth. That said, it makes a lot of sense for it to be a 13" laptop: these computers could easily share a chip design with iPads Pro, while bigger computers might require a different chip (for more performance). If shared, it gets to take advantage of the silicon bringup and production ramp schedule for the fall iPad refresh, meaning the hardware will likely be final and in pilot production a few months before the announced vague launch date. That gives them time to seed developers with real shipping ARM Mac hardware to replace the temporary A12Z based dev minis they've been handing out, and to finish their own work on ARM macOS using same.
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A laptop/entry level Macbook would *make sense* as a foray for ARMacs but I have no solid indication that will be the case. ARM devkits are shipping in MacMini cases ala the Intel devkits shipping in G5 chassis.
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Last Chance posted:I agree with the sentiment of the above post, and for security reasons you should always update the OS on things, but I do have to say that some of Apple's devices have fared better than others with newer versions of operating systems they've released. This is because iPad 3 truly was just slow on the CPU side. A5/A5X was the last Apple iOS SoC to use an ARM Holdings designed CPU core, so it's only a dual core 1 GHz Cortex-A9. When new, the A9 was a big improvement over its predecessor, the A8, but it got absolutely dumpstered by Apple's in-house designed cores (>2x improvement in Geekbench CPU score from A5X to A6X). As Apple began ramping up iPhone and iPad performance, they stopped needing to make concessions to limited mobile performance in their software, so the A9 quickly became a liability. Those first generation Apple designed cores in A6/A6X also had a short useful lifespan, but this time because they were 32-bit only. A7/A7X is where I feel that iOS hardware started to have better longevity.
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BobHoward posted:This is because iPad 3 truly was just slow on the CPU side. A5/A5X was the last Apple iOS SoC to use an ARM Holdings designed CPU core, so it's only a dual core 1 GHz Cortex-A9. When new, the A9 was a big improvement over its predecessor, the A8, but it got absolutely dumpstered by Apple's in-house designed cores (>2x improvement in Geekbench CPU score from A5X to A6X). As Apple began ramping up iPhone and iPad performance, they stopped needing to make concessions to limited mobile performance in their software, so the A9 quickly became a liability. This is an interesting delineation, I was going to comment that my ipad mini 2 is still going strong for the basic watching videos and dicking around I use it for other than no longer supporting the latest iOS. I double checked and it is an A7 so uh point to you sir.
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TheBacon posted:This is an interesting delineation, I was going to comment that my ipad mini 2 is still going strong for the basic watching videos and dicking around I use it for other than no longer supporting the latest iOS. I double checked and it is an A7 so uh point to you sir. I have one of these and it can barely play music and run Discord or other apps at the same time without crashing. It was pretty sad that the iPad Mini 3 was just the iPad Mini 2 with a TouchID button bolted on.
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Last Chance posted:I have one of these and it can barely play music and run Discord or other apps at the same time without crashing. It was pretty sad that the iPad Mini 3 was just the iPad Mini 2 with a TouchID button bolted on. The OG Air/Mini 2 CPU is still decent enough for basic tablet stuff - it just suffers because it only has one gig of RAM. Mine's slow but usable when it does processor-heavy stuff. It gets ugly when it's trying to keep browser tabs open, handle large files, or swap between a few different apps. The Air 2 and Mini 4 have 2 gigs, which isn't all that much these days, but has done wonders for keeping them relevant as the iPad has moved towards more multitasking support and complex almost-desktop apps.
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Jul 28, 2020 21:38
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Last Chance posted:I have one of these and it can barely play music and run Discord or other apps at the same time without crashing. It was pretty sad that the iPad Mini 3 was just the iPad Mini 2 with a TouchID button bolted on. I guess I have a very narrow usage of mine, mostly for watching videos in bed or the toilet or occasionally reading the internet, but not really more than a tab or so at once. It's the only device I don't have the habit of a million tabs always open.
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Last Chance posted:? You can long open in a new tab in iPadOS 13 Hm, maybe I changed a setting somewhere, it’s definitely gone for me now 
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I still use the og mini for netflix and podcasts even Edit ^^^ it’s the open in background tab
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I'm thinking of selling my 2016 15" MPB and grabbing a Mac Mini. I don't have much need for a laptop these days but I don't want to work in Windows. Except where I have to. So how does a fairly kitted out* Mini handle Win10 VMs in Parallels? *: 3.2GHz 6‑core 8th‑generation Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 4.6GHz) 16GB 2666MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 512GB SSD storage I imagine the VRAM is going to be an issue with the integrated graphics but I was wondering if Parallels hadn't somehow solved that problem.
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Twerk from Home posted:My iPad 4 crashes if left open on most websites at this point. Yeah I have an iPad 3, and it’s legitimately unusable for web browsing. I was kind of amazed. I’ll have to try it out with YouTube and see if it’s any better. It was sitting in a closet for the last 5 years, and I was hoping I could use it for evening browsing 
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Toe Rag posted:Yeah I have an iPad 3, and it’s legitimately unusable for web browsing. I was kind of amazed. I’ll have to try it out with YouTube and see if it’s any better. It was sitting in a closet for the last 5 years, and I was hoping I could use it for evening browsing still good for facetime, netflix+ other streaming services, youtube via app probably. you'd probably have to limit browsing to low memory websites, though :V
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Puppy Galaxy posted:Hm, maybe I changed a setting somewhere, it’s definitely gone for me now “Open in New window” ???
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Space Gopher posted:No. Apple is by far the best large mobile hardware manufacturer when it comes to supporting older hardware. Apple major OS updates making old devices slower is nothing to do with batterygate. Most likely it is usually to do with less RAM on specific generations. If you have say an iPad2 in a desk drawer you can easily see this in action by restoring it to 6 and then 9 (or vice-versa.)
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iPad 3 was a turd. First Retina display iPad but didn’t have a GPU strong enough to drive it. Introduced in March and discontinued in October. Shortest lifespan of any iOS product. That’s how bad it was. Also last iPad with the 30pin dock connector.
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Made a great performance crucible for apps that wanted to scroll fast, though.
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excellent bird guy posted:Cool, I don't like holding stuff. Probably could use a stand to at least sit it under desktop monitor. Like make it a 5th monitor just dedicated to youtube, or something. Puppy Galaxy posted:Hm, maybe I changed a setting somewhere, it’s definitely gone for me now mediaphage posted:Edit ^^^ it’s the open in background tab
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japtor posted:I should just do this with my Mini 4 as a second display for videos/music while working on my main screen...been doing it with my 5th gen lately. If only the 4 supported Sidecar to do more stuff with it. hmm, i've certainly never touched the setting - my ipad pro has by default always been 'open in background' and my ipad air 2 has always been 'open in new tab'. i assumed they'd decided to go with the ipp philosophy.
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japtor posted:I should just do this with my Mini 4 as a second display for videos/music while working on my main screen...been doing it with my 5th gen lately. If only the 4 supported Sidecar to do more stuff with it. I have a big monitor, a wacom 16", and two laptops to keep on my desk. With an Ipad to add, my computing is going over the top. What kind of ipad stand does this thread recommend
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Maybe try asking the iPad thread? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3552944
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FCKGW posted:Maybe try asking the iPad thread? 
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I mean, yeah technically Axx ARM chips are gonna be in Macs but not until the end of the year, so iPad/iPhone specific stuff should go into their respective threads in IYG.
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I rolled the dice on this not-thread-consensus dock and its done everything I've asked of it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0838WTFD1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 1x 4k 27", 2x 1080p's, and keeps the Retina display hot. I suppose the only annoyance is that you have to install drivers and those make the OS think its screen sharing so watch-unlock doesn't work, but touchID still does. Charges with plenty of power. e: 2018 MBP i7 15" Radeon 555x, Catalina 10.15.5
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I cannot figure this one out. What adapter do I need to connect a 2019 iMac (Thunderbolt 3/USB-C) to an Apple LED Cinema Display (Mini Displayport)? I cannot seem to find an adapter that will work with the 2019 iMac Specifically. Apple does not sell an adapter to do it.
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Astro7x posted:I cannot figure this one out.  https://www.startech.com/AV/display-and-video-adapters/usb-c-video-adapters/usb-c-mini-displayport-adapter~CDP2MDP Also maybe this? 
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I've got newer model wireless Magic Keyboard - the flatter one with a built in battery - and as of yesterday it stopped working wirelessly. Caps lock isn't giving me that sweet sweet green light and it just doesn't connect. Plugged in with a lightning cable and it's functioning fine. Has anyone experienced this? Any tips to get it back to wireless mode?
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Try a factory reset? https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/350725/how-to-reset-magic-keyboard
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So I bought a 2014 Mac Mini, but it’s broken in interesting ways. The guy I got it from us going to take it back, but I’m wondering if it’s something that can be easily fixed? 1. The Thunderbolt 2 ports don’t seem to work. Tried a couple of cables and connecting a LaCie D2 and my 2011 iMac. 2. The power/activity light doesn’t come on. 3. The fan will spin up to 100% sometimes when it’s restarted, but fan control apps read it as 0 rpm. 4. I installed an M.2 ssd with a SinTech adapter, and works fine when it’s first turned on, but if you restart it doesn’t see the ssd as connected. Shutting down and turning it back on works though. I’ve reset the SMC and NVRAM a couple times, but it didn’t help. Any ideas, or is the logic board just dead?
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On the topic of used Mac minis I am considering getting an older Mac mini to have a dedicated music stuff computer but I really can’t justify spending a lot of money on it so I’ve been looking for used models from like 2012-2014 in the $300ish range. Is there any general advice about model years, processors, etc I should keep in mind? I figure I could get one of the lower specced ones and upgrade the ram and SSD if it feels it needs it. Are some easier to replace stuff on than others?
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Yes, get a 2012 and not a 2014 if you want to do some (easy) upgrades.
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Wowporn posted:On the topic of used Mac minis I am considering getting an older Mac mini to have a dedicated music stuff computer but I really can’t justify spending a lot of money on it so I’ve been looking for used models from like 2012-2014 in the $300ish range. Is there any general advice about model years, processors, etc I should keep in mind? I figure I could get one of the lower specced ones and upgrade the ram and SSD if it feels it needs it. Are some easier to replace stuff on than others? Get a 2012, i7 if you can find one (though an i5 would probably be more than enough). 2012 was the last year you could fully upgrade RAM and HDD/SSD, the 2014 was generally seen as a step backwards in processing power, and RAM/storage are soldered you the motherboard.
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smax posted:Get a 2012, i7 if you can find one (though an i5 would probably be more than enough). 2012 was the last year you could fully upgrade RAM and HDD/SSD, the 2014 was generally seen as a step backwards in processing power, and RAM/storage are soldered you the motherboard. What’s wrong with the 2020s? It sounds like you can upgrade the ram.
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