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Alaois posted:grown adult men writing themselves into their own fiction to mack on the teenage girls they created is creepy Yeah no that's definitely creepy. But he did the same goon-style handwringing over the basic concept of shipping which is silly.
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Alaois posted:grown adult men writing themselves into their own fiction to mack on the teenage girls they created is creepy yeah this to me is different from teen girls who write themselves dating their favorite cute anime boy. one is an outlet for a young person to explore romantic and sexual feelings in a safe and controlled environment, the other is, not,
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if they were keeping it to themsevles itd be whatever its mostly roping animators and other VAs and stuff into it thats weird. like if a teen girl conned a bunch of people into animating her making out with a character from gundam wing without telling them that was what they were signing up for thatd also be bad, even if more forgivable since, teen girl
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Jul 28, 2020 19:57
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Which gundam wing character though
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Yeah no that's definitely creepy. But he did the same goon-style handwringing over the basic concept of shipping which is silly. Pretty much, if he had just phrased it as "yo it's pretty hosed up that these grown rear end men created underaged waifus for their self inserts to have romantic relationships with" that'd be fine, but he came off as fully anti-shipping and also freaked out at any sexualization of underaged character which - okay sure that's a whole other discussion about media - but that's a problem that is not by any stretch unique to RWBY and feels a lot more like an artifact of "anime fans with a bad grasp of writing try to write an anime" than anything nefarious. littleorv posted:Which gundam wing character though General Septum
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littleorv posted:Which gundam wing character though
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Jul 28, 2020 20:02
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Tantacrul made a video about his musical collaboration with Hbomberguy on Hbomb's RWBY review, including a closer look at the music of RWBY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O83ir7z2EfM
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Jul 28, 2020 20:02
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Sydin posted:General Septum A magnificent performance. A shame he had to leave the stage so soon.
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Jul 28, 2020 20:12
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littleorv posted:Which gundam wing character though The gundam itself
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Jul 28, 2020 20:13
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The worst thing about shipping is that it lead to almost every good cartoon in the mid-2010s getting dragged down by one of the main characters having an arc about being a mopey lame-o over some unrequited crush. Adventure Time, Korra, Regular Show, Gravity Falls, TMNT, and Voltron are just a few I thought of.
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Jul 28, 2020 20:16
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Shipping, by definition, is something fans do. If it's in the show it's just ... text? Yeah.
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Jul 28, 2020 20:18
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Dr Christmas posted:The worst thing about shipping is that it lead to almost every good cartoon in the mid-2010s getting dragged down by one of the main characters having an arc about being a mopey lame-o over some unrequited crush. Adventure Time, Korra, Regular Show, Gravity Falls, TMNT, and Voltron are just a few I thought of. yeah uhh i dont think 'weak romance arcs' is a problem born by milennial internet shipping culture considering this is also a problem afflicting several classical chinese novels
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Jul 28, 2020 20:19
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Lu Bu and Dong Zhou were definitely banging though
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Jul 28, 2020 20:22
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Leal posted:Lu Bu and Dong Zhou were definitely banging though
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Jul 28, 2020 20:22
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Sydin posted:General Septum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtI0Aal3C6w&hd=1
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Endorph posted:lu bu was his adopted son, im cancelling you for incest shipping drat there goes my 3 subs. Super nep rpg is cancelled
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Jul 28, 2020 20:27
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Gan Ning and Ling Tong were absolutely getting it on, though
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Sydin posted:Like Hbomb acts skeeved out that the principle writers created waifus and then wrote in self-insert characters they voice who their waifus are into, but honestly that's just standard fare for bad fanfiction. All that differentiates RWBY from some really bad AU AtLA story is that it had a ton of production behind it and, for a couple seasons, Oum and his friends constantly flexing with great fight scenes. Sydin posted:Pretty much, if he had just phrased it as "yo it's pretty hosed up that these grown rear end men created underaged waifus for their self inserts to have romantic relationships with" that'd be fine, but he came off as fully anti-shipping and also freaked out at any sexualization of underaged character which - okay sure that's a whole other discussion about media - but that's a problem that is not by any stretch unique to RWBY and feels a lot more like an artifact of "anime fans with a bad grasp of writing try to write an anime" than anything nefarious. Kaiser Mazoku posted:Yeah no that's definitely creepy. But he did the same goon-style handwringing over the basic concept of shipping which is silly. I dunno, I took it as 'It's kinda hypocritical to chastise people about shipping your characters because she's 15 and then- oh hey look, here's both of you making OCs to ship with the 17 year old! That's much more wholesome!'
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Leal posted:Lu Bu and Dong Zhou were definitely banging though Alaois posted:Gan Ning and Ling Tong were absolutely getting it on, though PYF Dynasty Warriors ships. Mine is Zhuge Liang/Sima Yi.
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Jul 28, 2020 20:39
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Supersonic Shine posted:PYF Dynasty Warriors ships. Mine is Zhuge Liang/Sima Yi.
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Jul 28, 2020 20:43
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Dr Christmas posted:The worst thing about shipping is that it lead to almost every good cartoon in the mid-2010s getting dragged down by one of the main characters having an arc about being a mopey lame-o over some unrequited crush. Adventure Time, Korra, Regular Show, Gravity Falls, TMNT, and Voltron are just a few I thought of. i think that's because they're shows for teenagers, many of whom are in the mopey lame-o over unrequited crushes stage of life
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RareAcumen posted:I dunno, I took it as 'It's kinda hypocritical to chastise people about shipping your characters because she's 15 and then- oh hey look, here's both of you making OCs to ship with the 17 year old! That's much more wholesome!' When did they scold their viewers for shipping? Hell, Oum used ship names from the fandom for the group's tag-team attacks in one fight as a shoutout.
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Jul 28, 2020 20:46
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Self-inserts are incredibly lame no matter who is doing it, the one exception being my digital self who is friends with piccolo and goku
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Endorph posted:that one is funny as hell because historically zhuge liang was trying to goad sima yi to attack him so he sent a letter calling him gay and then zhuge liang died of a heart attack, his last action on earth being calling sima yi gay The Chad Jihad posted:Self-inserts are incredibly lame no matter who is doing it, the one exception being my digital self who is friends with piccolo and goku
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Supersonic Shine posted:PYF Dynasty Warriors ships. Mine is Zhuge Liang/Sima Yi. I don't really know anything about any of the characters in Dynasty Warriors because my knowledge of Chinese history is absolutely mediocre but uh, Gracia and Da Ji.
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The Chad Jihad posted:Self-inserts are incredibly lame no matter who is doing it, the one exception being my digital self who is friends with piccolo and goku The OC creator for Sonic Forces unironically owns.
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Endorph posted:that one is funny as hell because historically zhuge liang was trying to goad sima yi to attack him so he sent a letter calling him gay and then zhuge liang died of a heart attack, his last action on earth being calling sima yi gay
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Yeah no that's definitely creepy. But he did the same goon-style handwringing over the basic concept of shipping which is silly. I didn't get that impression. He cracked a couple joke at its expense, but he didn't seem bother by it or anything. littleorv posted:Which gundam wing character though lets say Treize Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:The OC creator for Sonic Forces unironically owns. But yeah big franchises making games built around OC character creators is 100% cool and good.
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Sydin posted:When did they scold their viewers for shipping? Hell, Oum used ship names from the fandom for the group's tag-team attacks in one fight as a shoutout. The part where they're fighting the giant robot and Ruby's giving them all orders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81fdKWOHrdE&t=3386s And then the lead from him saying it goes right to Miles saying it so I didn't really think it was Mr. Bomberguy's opinion on it so much as just him setting them up to be a punchline? Does that make sense? I'm not sure how to word this better. Also I was watching something long on Youtube and the video was all segmented into parts, why isn't this one like that?
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The Chad Jihad posted:Self-inserts are incredibly lame no matter who is doing it, the one exception being my digital self who is friends with piccolo and goku I like the self-deprecating self-inserts that get made fun of or are otherwise one-note background characters.
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RareAcumen posted:The part where they're fighting the giant robot and Ruby's giving them all orders I'd need to see the actual full interview clip in context to know if the "she's a 15 year old girl" comment is in response to somebody talking about shipping, or something else. I get what you're saying though. As for the video segments that's something the creator themselves has to do. Considering the abject hell that Hbomb went through to get the video out my guess is he didn't feel like also going through and segmenting it.
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Supersonic Shine posted:Oh poo poo, yeah, this is technically real person shipping. The three of us are now cancelled, I guess. if gan ning and ling tong have a problem with it they can let me know
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Alaois posted:if gan ning and ling tong have a problem with it they can let me know im gan ning
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I liked the video for the most part, but I can’t say I agreed with the stuff towards the end regarding the villains. Granted, I haven’t watched far enough into the series for it to really start talking about the faunus stuff, but the way HBomb describes them seem like a perfectly valid way to portray your antagonists (at least in terms of the broad strokes of the plot). There’s an old bit of writing advice that goes something like “everyone is the hero in their own story”, so it makes sense to give a villain a motivation that’s in some way relatable even if that character is still undeniably evil. There’s a tragedy to it, like this person could have been a force for good but they went too far and became the very thing they hate. That’s not to say you have to make the villains relatable. Sometimes they can just be monsters who need killing; neither approach is inherently invalid. However if you do have simple villains you need to make the other characters doubly interesting to make up for that, which sounds like it’d be an even bigger challenge for the RWBY writers.
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Shipping is fun. Embrace the ridiculousness of it and go wild.
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Shipping is alright in my book, but there are definitely a handful of shows that completely fell off the deep end in the process of trying to cater to people who love shipping. Agents of SHIELD is the main example I can think of. Season 3 or 4 (can't remember which) collapsed in on itself trying to give each of the most popular ships an episode of their own. It was really bad.
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Sydin posted:When did they scold their viewers for shipping? Hell, Oum used ship names from the fandom for the group's tag-team attacks in one fight as a shoutout. That was kinda cute and neat. It helps that those names actually work in that context, since apparently RWBY fans are inexplicably smarter than every other fandom ever. Managed to avoid just taking half of one character's name and then half of another's and mash them together leaving to something that's the bad kind of dumb mess at worst and incoherent gibberish on average.
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Bakeneko posted:I liked the video for the most part, but I can’t say I agreed with the stuff towards the end regarding the villains. I think the main issue is that the plight of the faunus is more talked about than it's shown (the most we see is that guy tugging on the rabbit girl's ear), which can make the faunus villains seem more disproportionately "evil" than they should, rather than just desperate and fed up with their oppression.
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As long as you are shipping the Romance depictions of the characters it's fine. It's when you arent mentioning Guan Yu's red face or Liu Bei's huge lobes that it becomes problematic. This is also why John Malkovich is allowed to be your boyfriend in certain contexts
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