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Lockback posted:I can tell you with certainty those Lenovo hinges have a very finite life to them. Bummer, I’ve heard good things about Lenovo. Do you have experience with this model?
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BIG HEADLINE posted:If you have access to an .edu email: https://techbargains.com/deals/asus-tuf-gaming-laptop This had me excited, then is saw its AMD. I want an Intel i7. What is your opinion of MSi?
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SamEyeAm posted:This had me excited, then is saw its AMD. I want an Intel i7. What is your opinion of MSi? The newer mobile Ryzen chips are actually pretty nice. Intel's still slightly faster in single-threaded tasks: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Every...h.466999.0.html The other thing that leaves out is that the Ryzen chips run a bit hotter. As for my opinions of MSI - their customer service can leave a bit to be desired, but their product quality is decent. Remember you have a 90 day window (double-check this, obviously) in which to buy a SquareTrade policy on a new computer. Notebook Check does a really decent job on their reviews, too - so maybe keep an eye on this page: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Reviews.55.0.html BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Look up Death Stranding videos to see exactly how good the new DLSS2.0 stuff is. At the lower res of laptop screens, with good DLSS support you’ll be able to put on raytracing in some capacity and then max out everything else easily. But you need an RTX card to do that, so the 2060 is the way to go. E:in games that support the new DLSS, that is.
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weren't worth it. Now, though? Yes, yes they are.
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Jul 30, 2020 13:58
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repiv posted:Kopite7kimi has a decent track record with leaks don't they? im gonna spend more on video cards in the next year than ive spent on most of my previous computers which, considering i dont really skimp out,
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Enos Cabell posted:Irresponsible? callback to jensen saying the gtx1080 had "irresponsible amounts of performance" at the pascal launch
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Jul 30, 2020 14:05
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No one gamer should have all that power
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repiv posted:callback to jensen saying the gtx1080 had "irresponsible amounts of performance" at the pascal launch Hah, well 4 years in on my 1080 now I'm thinking he wasn't far off.
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Enos Cabell posted:Irresponsible? You can't just beam your last generation over the head with a 3000 point delta. Think of the children. Time to start making sure I have the money put away for launch day I guess, though some of these rumors just seem so far-fetched.
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repiv posted:Kopite7kimi has a decent track record with leaks don't they? It's gonna cost almost $10000 dollars right
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SamEyeAm posted:Bummer, I’ve heard good things about Lenovo. Do you have experience with this model? I used this model that was....4 or 5 years older? But had the exact same hinge . They broke after like a year, I fixed them with some replacement parts (that was a huge PIA) and they broke again like 9 months later. While I don't abuse my laptop, I actually use them and open and close them one-handed, etc. It's a real bad design and I'd be surprised if they managed to fix the problem while keeping the same mechanics. Lenovo is OK. They cram a lot of horsepower into their chasis but they don't have great cooling and overall I probably would prefer to roll dice with something else or pay a bit more. I replaced it with a Prostar which I have really liked a lot for the "Pretty cheap, mediocre cooling, gaming laptop" category.
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mobby_6kl posted:It's gonna cost almost $10000 dollars right MSRP last time around was supposed to be $999 for the 2080Ti and $2500 for the Titan. I wouldn't be surprised to see those go up 20% each (especially since street price for the 2080Ti was more like $1200).
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DrDork posted:MSRP last time around was supposed to be $999 for the 2080Ti and $2500 for the Titan. I wouldn't be surprised to see those go up 20% each (especially since street price for the 2080Ti was more like $1200). This is supply and demand though. There's no need to put the RRP up. There was high demand close to launch and constrained supply because there always is for these products due to how complex they are to manufacture. It was absolutely possible to buy a RTX 2080 Ti at or near the RRP later on when supply caught up with demand. It doesn't make much sense to get mad because retailers aren't selling at RRP when supply is constrained.
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its gonna be real disappointing when i read about goons buying a 3080ti and pairing it with a 22x1080p because 'budget'
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3090 might just be the new Titan branding, with a 3080ti still existing. I posted before but I think NVidia purposefully to avoid statification taking shine away from the x70 and x80 levels.
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Riflen posted:This is supply and demand though. There's no need to put the RRP up. There was high demand close to launch and constrained supply because there always is for these products due to how complex they are to manufacture. But it showed NVidia that tons of people were absolutely willing to pay $1200 for a top-end card. So given that, and that we expect it to be supply constrained again, why let the retailers make the bonus profit when NVidia can up their prices directly and capture the money instead? It's capitalism, man--there's no need to make record profits, either, but if they can, they will. If they need to drop prices 6 months later if it's not selling as well as they want, they can always do that. But you basically can't raise MSRP once you've set it. That's why I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised to see a higher MSRP out the gate this time around.
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I’m totally gonna get a 3080ti and hook it up to a 1080p display for laughs and to see how many fps I can get in Death Stranding with that DLSS going.
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Statutory Ape posted:its gonna be real disappointing when i read about goons buying a 3080ti and pairing it with a 22x1080p because 'budget' that's ridiculous I'm still on 720p
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The (US) economy is also looking like it's about to eat poo poo, so who the hell knows how to price GPUs (and consoles) at this point in history. I don't envy the companies that have to take all the factors of 2020 into account.
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It's gonna be more expensive and the people who can't pay can go join the protests -nvda exec
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please spend your rations on buying nvidia stock to accrue money to realize your consumerist desires citizen
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If you had bought their stock a year ago you'd be able to sell it and afford the new cards!
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DrDork posted:Ever since my girlfriend decided to hook up her Apple TV to the TV in our bedroom because she lost the remote for the TV, I too now have passionate opinions about remotes. And it is this: The hardbutton remotes for gen 3 Apple TV’s work perfectly for gen 4 and 5
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I just wish we knew what the 3090 is. The 90 moniker, if you'll recall, was previously used for a board with TWO chips on it. The 790, I believe it was. So there's always that outside chance. Though frankly that seems unlikely. It could also just be that they're retiring the Ti label and going with the (much easier to understand) 3060,3070,3080,3090 lineup. It's also possible that this part is the titan, but that's not really the direction any of the leaks have been pointing... for what it's worth.
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gradenko_2000 posted:that's ridiculous grandpa still buying $1200 computer components because its what he remembers from the 80s and 90s
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I really doubt Nvidia is going to do a dual-chip part. My two best guesses are they're either introducing the 3090 as some insanely high priced halo part like the Titan V or they're finally doing something sane and sticking to one name for the initial release and either Ti or Super for the refresh cadence.
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That would be ideal (for our pocketbooks) if it was just the 3080 Ti except renamed to, you know, make sense in the lineup. Everyone gets that the 3090 is better than the 3080, I don't know why they ever complicated it in the first place.
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Because then they confuse all the people who associate x90 with sli on a single pcb!
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SamEyeAm posted:Bummer, I’ve heard good things about Lenovo. Do you have experience with this model? I've been using a T480 for a few years and just upgraded to a T14. I think the lenovo T-line laptops are very good, run linux without an issue and are solid well constructed laptops. Sadly I don't know much of anything about their other brands
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It's also possible that Nvidia wants to create space in their lineup. Typically x50 has been as low as it goes and really not a serious gaming part, and yet the 2060/Super are not exactly budget cards and if Ampere is the big step forward that's expected the 3060 would be a monster. So maybe they're bumping everything up by 10 to create space at the low end, so the 1650/1660 successors have somewhere to slot in.
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ILikeVoltron posted:I've been using a T480 for a few years and just upgraded to a T14. I think the lenovo T-line laptops are very good, run linux without an issue and are solid well constructed laptops. Sadly I don't know much of anything about their other brands The T-series (and W- and X-) might as well be made by a completely different company from the IdeaPads, S-series, E-Series, Legion, and whatever the gently caress else they've got out there now. ThinkPad T's are still excellent, while the others are no better than any of the other cheap plastic "disposable" laptops you'd see from Acer et al in their relative price points.
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K8.0 posted:It's also possible that Nvidia wants to create space in their lineup. Typically x50 has been as low as it goes and really not a serious gaming part, and yet the 2060/Super are not exactly budget cards and if Ampere is the big step forward that's expected the 3060 would be a monster. So maybe they're bumping everything up by 10 to create space at the low end, so the 1650/1660 successors have somewhere to slot in. Yeah that's an interesting perspective, I could see that. VorpalFish posted:Because then they confuse all the people who associate x90 with sli on a single pcb!  All 9 of those people are going to be ravaged if true ^_^
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man the ponte vecchio delay is really bad. We desperately need multi-chiplet GPUs to cut the intrinsic cost of large GPUs. Nvidia knows they can sell every GPU they make and I bet they'd rather sell 2 $600 gpus than 1 $1k GPU, so the fact that die sizes are increasing is not great. Costs increase exponentially with die size as yield drops, so cutting a chip into 2 chiplets is a superlinear gain. With coherent memory i don't think devs would even notice.
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For laptop GeForce cards, where is the best value currently? The least powerful I’m willing to go is 1660Ti. Is the performance increase of the 2060 worth the extra cost? Or the 2070 compared to the 2060? Don’t think I’ll be forking out for anything with a 2080.
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SamEyeAm posted:For laptop GeForce cards, where is the best value currently? The least powerful I’m willing to go is 1660Ti. Is the performance increase of the 2060 worth the extra cost? Or the 2070 compared to the 2060? Don’t think I’ll be forking out for anything with a 2080. This depends heavily on what games you're planning on playing and the rest of the system. I wouldn't waste a 2070 on a 60Hz screen, for example. The 2060 is looking like a much better long-term card (as much as a laptop can be a "long term" gaming platform, anyhow) than the 1660Ti because the 2060 supports DLSS 2.0 and the 16xx series don't. A 2070 is about 20% faster than a 2060 in most cases, so you can use that to determine if the extra price is worth it.
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To make it more complex there is 2070 & 2060 and 2070 & 2060 Max-Q, where MQ have reduced clock speeds for power savings. Which one is "better" depends on thermals and how often you'll be gaming without a power cord. If you're going to be doing AAA gaming the 2060 is probably worth the extra cost over the 1660ti due to the DLSS, if not I don't think it is (unless a lot more Indie or lower-tier games get DLSS). So basically clear as mud.
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DrDork posted:This depends heavily on what games you're planning on playing and the rest of the system. I wouldn't waste a 2070 on a 60Hz screen, for example. Yes, all other things being equal, trying to get an idea of value. Thanks for the info on the cards. I think I’ll look at the 2060 as my baseline option. I want my laptop to be as “future ready” as possible.
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