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Bogus Adventure posted:It does have a single-player campaign where you switch between the New Republic and the Empire. It also has a lot of the energy management from X-Wing/TIE Fighter. It adds a lot of customization on ship loadout, too. The description I read made it sound like it was just a multiplayer arena game. That actually looks good and is what I want.
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Xenocides posted:The description I read made it sound like it was just a multiplayer arena game. That actually looks good and is what I want. It looks beautiful, and I see so many X-Wing/TIE Fighter features in it that it gives me hope. It looks like it's going to first be released as a smaller game (four ships for each side, only 6 maps for multiplayer), but I'm hoping they build on it. There are hints that the B-Wing might be added, and it would be sweet to see the TIE Advanced or an Assault Gunboat get added.
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Aug 1, 2020 06:33
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Pretty much the impression I get is that Star Citizen can't even function as a presentable game because their base engine is absolutely hosed even for its intended use case. It's a house built on sand.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pretty much the impression I get is that Star Citizen can't even function as a presentable game because their base engine is absolutely hosed even for its intended use case. It's a house built on sand. It's pretty much this, it can never be made stable enough for release because the underpinnings are so fundamentally broken. They'd have to start over fresh like Duke Nukem Forever but they were committed to the sunk cost fairly early on and so the point of no return is a long time past, but only because at no point did they have the courage to sack up and start over.
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Aug 1, 2020 18:30
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Reminded of when Nintendo outright went 'Metroid Prime 4 wasn't shaping up well at all so we're starting over from scratch', though maybe a rare case given they announced very early for them probably because Metroid fans are used to assuming the franchise is being abandoned.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Reminded of when Nintendo outright went 'Metroid Prime 4 wasn't shaping up well at all so we're starting over from scratch', though maybe a rare case given they announced very early for them probably because Metroid fans are used to assuming the franchise is being abandoned. Also to be fair the backers of MP4 weren't beholden to the sunk cost fallacy because, you know, Nintendo is a legit company and didn't bilk their entire userbase for $300 million
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Aug 1, 2020 19:56
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As genre-defining and industry-disrupting as that space bartender is, shouldn't a space exploration/combat/trading video game implement such mechanics as space exploration, combat and trading by now?
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Aug 1, 2020 20:02
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Reminded of when Nintendo outright went 'Metroid Prime 4 wasn't shaping up well at all so we're starting over from scratch', though maybe a rare case given they announced very early for them probably because Metroid fans are used to assuming the franchise is being abandoned. Regular-rear end Metroid has been basically abandoned.
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Aug 1, 2020 20:21
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Bronze Fonz posted:As genre-defining and industry-disrupting as that space bartender is, Hold on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwdQNOVhDPw Why is there a cut before they even get to the bar? Why does it take the bartender a full fifteen seconds to acknowledge the customer? Why does the menu sway with the bartender? Why is there ANOTHER cut after the customer orders? The sometimes-fluid mocapped movements of the bartender are at total odds with the janky paths his pre-recorded movements are shoehorned into. Those liquid-in-glass mechanics are shite and they made so much noise about them once upon a time about how they had to be "just right". Love how he YANKS the glass off the table like a fuckin Merry Melodies guy downing a shot at the saloon Not to worry though, I'm sure they'll have a working 1:1 model of the universe modelled in no time at all
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Aug 1, 2020 20:23
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Why is there a cut before they even get to the bar? Please don't spread FUD.
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Aug 1, 2020 20:29
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Wow, Mass Effect 2's graphical fidelity joins Mass Effect Andromeda's AI and character animation to produce a truly unique experience.
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Aug 1, 2020 20:47
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Hold on. https://twitter.com/CloudImperium/status/1289267189183180801
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Aug 1, 2020 21:02
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Haha the pretend bar is empty and the bartenders are assholes who take forever and the drinks look like poo poo. Why would anyone waste their time with this? Go make a real drink for yourself. Is there anything fun in this game at all?
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steinrokkan posted:Wow, Mass Effect 2's graphical fidelity joins Mass Effect Andromeda's AI and character animation to produce a truly unique experience. Exactly, everything the SC PTU tries to offer can be found in other games, commercially released games. Since years. With the difference that it works in the other, real, released games. Shattered Horizon from 2009 offers fluid and smooth Space Combat Mechanics that absolutely shits on Star Citizen‘t. But hey, 2800 early days after the Kickstarter is not enough to meet standard gaming development best practice that even small indie dev studios can deliver, with less than 1% of the funding.
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Aug 1, 2020 21:47
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Bogus Adventure posted:It does have a single-player campaign where you switch between the New Republic and the Empire. It also has a lot of the energy management from X-Wing/TIE Fighter. It adds a lot of customization on ship loadout, too.  Why would anyone choose a TIE fighter when they can choose an Interceptor? The X-Wing vs. the A-Wing is a choice, sure. X-Wing's beefier and has more firepower. It's a good all-around fighter. A-Wing is faster and more agile. But the Interceptor is just plain better. And it should be better. They better not come up with some ol' bullshit to change this just for the sake of balance.
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Aug 1, 2020 22:31
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Kickstarter gamedev proves that the worst thing you can do to a self-declared genius is give them everything they ask for.
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Aug 1, 2020 22:33
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holy gently caress that bartender video is bad lol
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Aug 1, 2020 22:35
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Tricky Ed posted:Kickstarter gamedev proves that the worst thing you can do to a self-declared genius is give them everything they ask for. I remember the original campaign where Squadron 42 was the whole game and the MMO was a stretch goal. I wonder if we would have a game if Roberts had gotten less?
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Aug 1, 2020 22:42
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You too can make NPCs stand on furniture. IN SPACE!
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Blurry Gray Thing posted:
They made up some bullshit for balance. I can see why. It is meant as a multiplayer arena game and no one will fly a TIE fighter in a game like that. Looking at it the Fighter has more armor than the interceptor and the interceptor's weapons are better against fighters but less good against capital ships. The weird change is the support craft which repair and reload allies. Blech. Oh well, I am unlikely to play much, if any, multiplayer. If I have my decent length story campaign I will be content.
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tyrelhill posted:holy gently caress that bartender video is bad lol Why is there such epic diegetic music for just walking to the bar Why is there no sound at the bar but the howling wind
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Aug 1, 2020 23:07
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Now now, Chris gave them a full hour to fake a working demo.
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Aug 1, 2020 23:18
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Why is there such epic diegetic music for just walking to the bar The Super Space Party Megacorp that owns the bar wants to awe and dazzle you. But the bartenders hate you and want you to leave. They can't just up and say so (Super Space Party Megacorp is recording them), so they do their job with malicious compliance. That's why they'll keep asking what you want, even if they can see you're still trying to drink the last thing you ordered. What do you want? You're still here, so you must want something. Just take your little drink and go. Keep the glass for all I care, just piss off. The sound reflects this mood.
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Xenocides posted:I remember the original campaign where Squadron 42 was the whole game and the MMO was a stretch goal. I wonder if we would have a game if Roberts had gotten less? Experience suggests not: he got booted off a project he mismanaged by Microsoft (I think, I forget the details), confessed openly that one reason the Wing Commander movie sucked balls was because he was congenitally unable to keep things to a manageable or achievable schedule, and lost a court case to Kevin Costner for breaking a contract. But sure, 300 mill should definitely be given to him with zero oversight.
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He started pissing away money from the start. With the first $10 million he opened a mocap studio, and opened like FOUR mocap studios around the world. So he and Sandi could personally show the trained mocap actors how to forward roll properly.
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I hope the bartender gets finished and is used as the basis for every other npc because you know it'd be a copy and paste job. I really want to see the bugs that come from every npc needing to find a bar to tend
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tyrelhill posted:holy gently caress that bartender video is bad lol What gets me is that just visually it looks like absolute poo poo. I thought that was supposed to be the one strong suit of the game. They have an army of artists. The one thing they manage to churn out is art assets. How do they even gently caress that up?
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I like the constant squishing noises the bartender makes with every movement. Is he wearing full saddle leather? The lack of other sound is hilarious.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Hold on. Gotta love how sloshed that bartender is, lmfao
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Sankis posted:I hope the bartender gets finished and is used as the basis for every other npc because you know it'd be a copy and paste job. I really want to see the bugs that come from every npc needing to find a bar to tend "What do you want?" asks the stranger I pass on the street. "What do you want, whiskey, beer, or whiskey?" asks the space-bus driver. "What do you want?" asks a person I cannot see. I suspect he is inside the ground. I try to find him and clip through the world and fall into infinity. "Good choice."
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Aug 2, 2020 03:54
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I can't get over how citizens fool themselves that SC is some graphical masterpiece yet it looks like a PS3 game in some places. The fact the the performance is so bad is the real icing on the cake.
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Is that bar meant to be so aggressively 80s-themed? Did they do that on purpose? I mean, what year does the glorious Stimpire take place in?
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Wolfechu posted:I mean, what year does the glorious Stimpire take place in? The Lore of the Fourth Stimpire posted:The concept of time has been abolished in the Fourth Stimpire as the Stimpire is seen as eternal by the rulers. Citizens are prohibited from owning clocks calendars and diaries and other devices used to mark the passage of time. Citizens breaking these laws are subjected to eternal punishments of the worst kind. Keepers of diaries are compressed in huge printing presses for a long time while their families are drowned in ink. People possessing clocks are grounded up in huge clockwork devices designed to inflict the maximum amount of pain possible before death occurs. This is all done on live video broadcasts watched by the entire population of the Fourth Stimpire n.b this marks the spot where my phone added the word ‘Stimpire’ to my predictive text.
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Torquemada posted:n.b this marks the spot where my phone added the word ‘Stimpire’ to my predictive text. Eternal punishments of the worst kind. Eternal punishments.... this game
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Star Citizen really is the gift of lols that keeps on giving.
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Aug 2, 2020 19:07
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Are they ground up in the worst kind of clockwork?
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Nowher posted:I can't get over how citizens fool themselves that SC is some graphical masterpiece yet it looks like a PS3 game in some places. Actually, the whole weird interaction sort of feels like something you might find in Shenmue, but with worse animations. (Like holding a "full" glass at such a crazy angle, or the NPC glitching and skipping frames during its routine.)
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Aug 2, 2020 23:56
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