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Sab0921 posted:Just started rewatching the show and take in Jerusalem's essay's a few days after watching each episode - they are incredible - just want to say thank you for the time, effort, and dedication that you put into them for no financial reward - I honestly feel like I should Venmo Jerusalem some money - I'm basically reading a several hundred page, well researched, and well written book on the Sopranos. His recaps are great, agreed. Way better than that Soprano's Sessions book I read (speaking of books) and with fewer factual errors to boot. If you ever find yourself getting into The Wire (you should), he did a thread on that too that's around here somewhere. EDIT: God, what a lovely snipe. Let me throw a minor observation out there and say that I watched Mean Streets the other night and recognized the guy who played Ritchie Aprile, Manson Lamps and all. I'd love to see a "tree" of all the actors that were in other movies, if only for a moment. I know the Goodfellas and Godfather cross overs have been widely documented but then I also saw Aida Turturo in Sleepers and Michael Imperiolli in Tree's Lounge recently so gently caress me if I don't get a chuckle seeing these actors in other movies. What's the most "holy poo poo, that's 'so and so'" role for this cast I wonder? I even forgot that Dominic Chianese was in Godfather 2. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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BiggerBoat posted:What's the most "holy poo poo, that's 'so and so'" role for this cast I wonder? I even forgot that Dominic Chianese was in Godfather 2. Tony Sirico, too.
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Jul 28, 2020 23:02
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Dawgstar posted:Tony Sirico, too. No poo poo? Seen that movie probably 20 times and never noticed.
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Jul 28, 2020 23:11
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Pretty sure he's not in Godfather II, he is in Goodfellas though.
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Jul 28, 2020 23:22
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Sopranos Sessions is still a great book, to be fair, even if the mistakes are irritating at times. It just happens you can’t do a full scene-by-scene synopsis of each episode like Jerusalem does in a published book without it being approximately a couple thousand pages long, so it’ll naturally be less detailed than the kind of recap you can write online.
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Jul 29, 2020 07:10
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Escobarbarian posted:Sopranos Sessions is still a great book, to be fair, even if the mistakes are irritating at times. It just happens you can’t do a full scene-by-scene synopsis of each episode like Jerusalem does in a published book without it being approximately a couple thousand pages long, so it’ll naturally be less detailed than the kind of recap you can write online. I just found it kind of dry and lacking in any real insights or theories. On the few occasions that it looked for symbolism or any sort of deeper meaning to certain things, I usually found them to be a stretch. I actually found myself skimming large parts of it which I never did for the recaps here.
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Vichan posted:Pretty sure he's not in Godfather II, he is in Goodfellas though. Apparently I had bought into a long-running urban legend (one apparently Tony himself started, or so some folks say) that he was one of the guys in a blink and you'll miss it role who were sent to clip Frank Pentangeli in the bar. The only problem is nobody can show a screenshot of it and it's possible Sirico was in jail on gun charges during the filming of II.
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Sirico shows up as a cop at the end of Dead Presidents and even does the "raised eyebrows" thing when he realizes the suspect is dead. I had also completely forgotten how they wrote Edie Falco's character off of Oz once the Sopranos started, it seems like they were pissed she was leaving and chose an absurd reason because of it.
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Jul 29, 2020 12:46
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Jerusalem posted:Season 6, Episode 21 - The Final Scene i just finished rewatching sopranos as well. My view on final episode. Tony had a stroke/heart attack over stress in his life. HIs therapist had left him. His right hand man is in coma. His nephew successor is dead and there is no-one but paulie left to run the business, and he doesnt trust paulie because he talks too much. Carrodo doesnt even remember who he is. the cafe acted as trigger as well. There is plenty of valid concerns in the cafe the black men the mafia man. Its brand new restaurant for him as well so he doesnt know anyone in it. His family is late as well. Its interesting how wrong i remembered sopranos from first time. It feels like i watched some alternative reality sopranos, but i also skipped lots of episodes when it first aired. However the plot in my false memory is fairly interesting. in my memories olivia was in the family as way for other characters to pass some harder to talk points to tony. sil never went to coma but became head of family at end. paulie betray's tony and sides in johnny side leading to full scale war between families. melfy ends up dead because of tony's temper olivia goes into jail, at some point as well. carmine sides with johnny's crew as well.
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Dark Off posted:the cafe acted as trigger as well. There is plenty of valid concerns in the cafe the black men the mafia man. Its brand new restaurant for him as well so he doesnt know anyone in it. His family is late as well. The big essay on how Tony gets shot in the cafe points out that all the anxiety of the scene is the audience projecting onto Tony. Tony himself spends most of the scene looking over the menu and jukebox and doesn't actually seem very concerned with the goings-on. You are tense because you know it's the last scene of the show.
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PostNouveau posted:The big essay on how Tony gets shot in the cafe points out that all the anxiety of the scene is the audience projecting onto Tony. Tony himself spends most of the scene looking over the menu and jukebox and doesn't actually seem very concerned with the goings-on. You are tense because you know it's the last scene of the show.
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Dark Off posted:to me he looks depressed. And has tony ever looked concerned/scared in the show? 
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Most of Isabella (an amazing episode) features Tony in a complete funk until he learns this one weird trick (Melfis hate him!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1aPic4rQVA Hmmm.... feel like I kinda wanna rewatch the entire series again after watching this. God, Tony was so "thin" in season 1. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jul 31, 2020 |
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Jerusalem posted:Most of Isabella (an amazing episode) features Tony in a complete funk until he learns this one weird trick (Melfis hate him!) God, how on point was The Sopranos when it came to music?
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The University ending was the zenith of this. I've thought about making up a cast tribute scored to Living on a Thin Line but I'm not very effective at such things And ofc obligatory mention of chicken town
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Jul 30, 2020 14:15
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"I'm Not Like Everybody Else" by the Kinks as Tony triumphantly walks out of the Baccalieri house after provoking Janice to physically attack him in front of the kids.
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Jerusalem posted:Most of Isabella (an amazing episode) features Tony in a complete funk until he learns this one weird trick (Melfis hate him!) oh MAN what a great scene. The way the music drops out as he "snaps" into fight/flight mode is perfect. I have seen this scene many times and its still exciting every time.
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I forgot they BOTH get close enough for Tony to grab the gun. One dude watches the other guy make this mistake and then does it himself. The killings often go sideways now that I think about it. Even the really seasoned criminals gently caress those up, like Tony B getting his foot run over or the Italians shooting a civilian instead of their target. PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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PostNouveau posted:I forgot they BOTH get close enough for Tony to grab the gun. One dude watches the other guy make this mistake and then does it himself. Walden Belfiore is the best hitman in the series
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PostNouveau posted:I forgot they BOTH get close enough for Tony to grab the gun. One dude watches the other guy make this mistake and then does it himself. It does underline the collective delusion these people live under - they're all untrained, undisciplined fuckups with zero foresight, yet to a man they consider and call themselves "soldiers."
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Pattonesque posted:Walden Belfiore is the best hitman in the series Walden, what kinda name is that for an Italian?
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Michael Imperioli and Steve Schirripa did Greg Fitzsimmons' (he's a comedian and knows Steve from his time in Vegas when he was in charge of entertainment at one of the casnos) podcast the other day. https://gregfitz.libsyn.com/michael-imperioli-steve-schirripa-episode-869 It's not really earth shattering, they just sort of talk about comedy stuff and some random Sopranos small talk like shooting locations and behind the scenes things. You can skip the first 25 minutes or so if you don't feel like hearing a guy from Boston ramble on about things.
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PostNouveau posted:I forgot they BOTH get close enough for Tony to grab the gun. One dude watches the other guy make this mistake and then does it himself. This is one of the more true to life things mob-related. Even pro mob hits are these weird, messy things in most cases. You wouldn't be shocked to learn how many usually feature the phrase "hail of gunfire" or have weird twists like the St. Valentine's Day Massacre going down because somebody thought one of Bugs Moran's guys was Moran himself (who decided to sleep in that day and wasn't even there).
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Pattonesque posted:Walden Belfiore is the best hitman in the series Bacala Senior probably has the longest track record of successful hits. His last hit goes sideways since the roommate interrupts him just as he's about to blow Mustang Sally away and it turns into a fight instead but based on how he sticks through it and "wins" that encounter even while being barely able to breathe demonstrates how lethal he probably was in his younger days.
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Dark Off posted:i just finished rewatching sopranos as well. wait. what? I thought they established that the Soprano family had been there several times before?
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Ginette Reno posted:Bacala Senior probably has the longest track record of successful hits. His last hit goes sideways since the roommate interrupts him just as he's about to blow Mustang Sally away and it turns into a fight instead but based on how he sticks through it and "wins" that encounter even while being barely able to breathe demonstrates how lethal he probably was in his younger days. Sadly we never get to see Lou Dimaggio and the Atwell Avenue Boys do their thing, but they had to be good at it since it was apparently their main source of income.
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Dawgstar posted:Sadly we never get to see Lou Dimaggio and the Atwell Avenue Boys do their thing, but they had to be good at it since it was apparently their main source of income. Crusty old guys being good enforcers seems comical but I thought I remember reading somewhere that some mob guy said it was actually realistic because you have to be pretty good at it to kill that many people and make it to that age without successful reprisals. Wish I could remember who said that but I know I remember reading it
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Ginette Reno posted:Crusty old guys being good enforcers seems comical but I thought I remember reading somewhere that some mob guy said it was actually realistic because you have to be pretty good at it to kill that many people and make it to that age without successful reprisals. There's also trust built up with older guys who have been around a long time. I can only assume when you're tasking someone with committing the ultimate crime, the first priority is that they're someone you trust 100%.
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BiggerBoat posted:What's the most "holy poo poo, that's 'so and so'" role for this cast I wonder? I even forgot that Dominic Chianese was in Godfather 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmaCDZJjS8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOCBpMs-9hY
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I just finished my first viewing of The Sopranos with my wife, and I honestly wasn't too impressed until seasons 5 and 6. Good show. Shame about Silvio. Small question about the final scene- is the viewer supposed to accept that "Don't Stop Believin" is the song that Tony plays from the jukebox? I am having such a hard time sequencing that scene, because we have the song playing in real time, Meadow attempting to parallel park in real time, and conversation from the family happening in real time, but there are, simultaneous to that, time jumps. Carmella says that AJ is "on his way" but he immediately enters the diner. Meadow will be a little late, but she is parking in the time that it takes Members Only to order a cup of coffee. Tony says that he ordered onion rings for the table, but we don't see it. Is this an intentional thing? Presenting a scene in real time or skipping the mundane aspects of life are both normal things for a show to do, but the fact that both seemed to be happening at the same time made the whole thing feel really dreamy and weird. a new study bible! fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Aug 1, 2020 |
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a new study bible! posted:
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a new study bible! posted:Small question about the final scene I have some thoughts *links to 10,000-word essay I've been updating every six months since 2008
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PostNouveau posted:I have some thoughts *links to 10,000-word essay I've been updating every six months since 2008 *arms crossed, impatiently tapping foot Well? You gonna post it or not?
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if you paid attention, tony actually put in enough money to load up don't stop believing for forty five minutes the members only guy had actually walked out of the diner in rage, then returned shortly after meadow
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The latest episode of Talkin' Sopranos (covering Big Girls Don't Cry) features a must-listen story from Terence Winter about conning his way into a writing career. I always recommend that podcast but I particularly recommend this one.
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Here's what Meadow's been up to since the show ended: https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1289734769618456577
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how come nobody wears a seatbelt in this show? it's stressing me out
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Sinteres posted:Here's what Meadow's been up to since the show ended: So the Sopranos was completely on the money when they lampooned Italian Americans' persecution complex.
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Vichan posted:So the Sopranos was completely on the money when they lampooned Italian Americans' persecution complex. It was just last year that the Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo dropped an N-bomb on the radio trying to prove a point about anti-Italian American language, and his brother Chris Cuomo of CNN insisted that being called Fredo is just as bad as being called the N-word. So yeah, no self-awareness but plenty of irony.
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I enjoyed that my first time watching Sopranos occurred alongside the legitimate tearing down of Columbus statues.
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