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RevolverDivider
Nov 12, 2016

This episode was so good and it retroactively makes Season 1 even better.

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AnoHito
May 8, 2014

This one hit way too close to home for me. The panic attacks, refusal to go outside, failure to live up to expectations, all of it basically felt like it was about my life almost exactly, and all of it was portrayed pretty much flawlessly.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Annointed posted:

gently caress just trying to do your best but you're slowly getting worse at everything, and then just giving up gets to me.

Was he really trying his best or did he only think he did? He wasn't used to putting in effort due to talent/getting wrestled by his dad and that simply wasn't enough once he entered middle school. Getting 30 points on a test imply not learning at all, though that might be already because of depression.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Not Keyser Soze posted:

I really enjoyed this episode but at the same time I find it amusing that the first phase of some mystical gauntlet everyone talks up as perilous is...remembering that your parents are cool and love you and that you're gonna be okay.

"Beware! Foolish adventurers. You have strayed into the Caverns of Catharsis!"

I think it was more like placing him in the worst part of his life, when he was in the midst of his depression, except all the experiences he's had since then allowed him to approach it differently than he did before. He was supposed to continue being "stuck" there just like he'd been stuck for the last 3 months. Which is why the witch was surprised he came so early: most people don't overcome that sort of thing so easily.

Edit: Leaving also requires him to choose to intentionally abandon his parents.

Clarste fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Jul 30, 2020

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism
Was it specified why Subaru's dad was so well thought of by people? It came across like he was a minor celebrity of some kind.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Starsnostars posted:

Was it specified why Subaru's dad was so well thought of by people? It came across like he was a minor celebrity of some kind.

I think he was just a popular dude.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
I figured he was some kinda athlete.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

"According to Wikipedia" there is a black hole that emits zionist hawking radiation where my brain should have been

I really should just shut the fuck up and stop posting forever
College Slice
Echidna is great, and I hope to finally get back to live watching anime with fellow goons after dropping off for a while!

paragon1 posted:

Pretty cold of Subaru to just start hanging out with another witch without properly responding to Satella's confession.

When was this :aaa:

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Now do you understand why I was so fanatical for this show?

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Grouchio posted:

Now do you understand why I was so fanatical for this show?

No. I require a 14+ paragraph effort post to explain it.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Raenir Salazar posted:

When was this :aaa:

She whispers "I love you" when he attempts the "I can Return By Death!" trick to lure the White Whale.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

"According to Wikipedia" there is a black hole that emits zionist hawking radiation where my brain should have been

I really should just shut the fuck up and stop posting forever
College Slice

Furnaceface posted:

No. I require a 14+ paragraph effort post to explain it.

:justpost:


Conspiratiorist posted:

She whispers "I love you" when he attempts the "I can Return By Death!" trick to lure the White Whale.

Now that I remember it I think you're right but wasn't it a "wordless" whisper? Or does the LN/WebNovel make it explicit?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Furnaceface posted:

No. I require a 14+ paragraph effort post to explain it.

What have you done

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
That episode did a lot to show why Subaru is the way he is and at times it hit way too close to home.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

"According to Wikipedia" there is a black hole that emits zionist hawking radiation where my brain should have been

I really should just shut the fuck up and stop posting forever
College Slice
Subaru was kind of a dick at first but as Re;Zero starts progressing more as a isekai reconstruction after departing the deconstruction train station the more I start to root for him as a relatable expy.

Seizon
Oct 10, 2011



drat he was pathetic as hell in real life, did he even get better before he got isekai'd? Or was getting his poo poo together just a part of the fantasy?

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day
You see that part where his mom tells him take care and he has a flashback where he didn't even turn back to look at her before leaving the house? That was the night he left for the convenience store, after which he found himself in a fantasy world.



That was the last time his parents ever saw him.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009

Seizon posted:

drat he was pathetic as hell in real life, did he even get better before he got isekai'd? Or was getting his poo poo together just a part of the fantasy?

He got his poo poo together when Rem gave him a pep talk. Him being aware of this is why her well-being is kind of important to him just a little bit.

Seizon
Oct 10, 2011



you hate to see it, his parents don't get to watch him turn poo poo around & worse probably think he's dead

Sazabi
Feb 15, 2014

A-MA-ZON!!
Maybe he'll find someone who has a witch factor that allows them to phone other world?

Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


drat. I miss my parents.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime
This episode was a gut punch. My dad passed a few years ago, before I ever got my poo poo together. I graduated, got married and he didn't get to see it.

Thanks for the feels re:zero

Tabletops fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Aug 4, 2020

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Episode 5:

Guess who's baaaaaaaaaack

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

"According to Wikipedia" there is a black hole that emits zionist hawking radiation where my brain should have been

I really should just shut the fuck up and stop posting forever
College Slice
So I've been wondering, does Echidna "know" Subaru isn't from this world? Are the Witches exempt from Satella's meddling in that regard? Or is it okay since Satella ate the other Witches a long time ago so they are probably already her?

Grouchio posted:

Episode 5:

Guess who's baaaaaaaaaack

It will be interesting finding out where the (this episode spoilers) reset point is. Depending on where it ends up it will ask a lot of questions and perhaps prompt some answers.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
My favourite character is back! :swoon:

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Who is this? I have no memory of who this is

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


Raenir Salazar posted:

So I've been wondering, does Echidna "know" Subaru isn't from this world?

If she didn't know before, she does now. I mean, she chose to wear that uniform.

Rudoku fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Aug 5, 2020

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Nitrousoxide posted:

Who is this? I have no memory of who this is

Elsa the villain of the first arc.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

"According to Wikipedia" there is a black hole that emits zionist hawking radiation where my brain should have been

I really should just shut the fuck up and stop posting forever
College Slice

Rudoku posted:

If she didn't know before, she does now. I mean, she chose to wear that uniform.

I wonder how much of this though is her not "knowing" and is just how the illusion works, i.e she is not truly conscious and is just responding automatically given the inputs like a really advanced robot; or she is in fact conscious and self-aware and aware of her surroundings and if the latter it's interesting that Satella doesn't react to Echidna knowing but did whenever Subaru tried to spill the beans to anyone else including Emilia.

Rewatching the Director's cut in preparation for the new season, I notice some people in this thread and reddit talk about Satella, are we as anime only watchers supposed to "know" that it's Satella squeezing Subaru's heart? I feel like it's been very strongly hinted at and is pretty obvious but I don't think they explicitly did so; I know Subaru taunted Betelgeuse a bit about it but not in a super explicit way.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Raenir Salazar posted:

I feel like it's been very strongly hinted at and is pretty obvious but I don't think they explicitly did so; I know Subaru taunted Betelgeuse a bit about it but not in a super explicit way.

I mean.... in the anime Betelgeuse possesses Subaru... Subaru taunts him and says the witch likes him better. Then he summons the witches punishment by attempting to break the rules. The witch comes to squeeze Subaru and pushes out Betelgeuse. Betelgeuse cries because the witch that he loved so much scorned him, and he was unloved.

Presumably Betelgeuse would know better if that was actually the witch's spirit or whatever, even if Subaru, and everyone who says Subaru smells like the witch of envy is wrong.

That coupled with the fact that the scent of the witch is something tied to specifically Satella, witch of envy's cult. Not any other mysterious witches. All the other witches are long gone by this point, and it's also heavily implied that the world is skewed to view everything witch like through the lens of Satella's attempt to destroy the world as a witch.

It's seems reasonably sure that the scent of the witch is the direct result of Satella magic, Satella cult, or Satella relics and not other witches. Because of it's close ties to the cult in this world.

Sazabi
Feb 15, 2014

A-MA-ZON!!

Raenir Salazar posted:

I wonder how much of this though is her not "knowing" and is just how the illusion works, i.e she is not truly conscious and is just responding automatically given the inputs like a really advanced robot; or she is in fact conscious and self-aware and aware of her surroundings and if the latter it's interesting that Satella doesn't react to Echidna knowing but did whenever Subaru tried to spill the beans to anyone else including Emilia.

Rewatching the Director's cut in preparation for the new season, I notice some people in this thread and reddit talk about Satella, are we as anime only watchers supposed to "know" that it's Satella squeezing Subaru's heart? I feel like it's been very strongly hinted at and is pretty obvious but I don't think they explicitly did so; I know Subaru taunted Betelgeuse a bit about it but not in a super explicit way.

We have several lines about Subaru smelling of the witch and when Betelgeuse sees the hands that have been squeezing Subarus heart he's all "my love! I've waited so long for your embrace". If it's actually Satella's literal hand or semi magic one is more up in the air. However yes we get enough info to at least convince me it's Satella stroking Subaru's heart when he ties to spoil the plot to other characters.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day
It's just the natural assumption to make after first learning about the Witch of Envy, and putting various other elements together like the Emilia/Satella connection (whose specifics are unknown, but clearly narratively significant), how RbD wraps Subaru in Witch's Miasma, and that until this arc we had never heard about any other witches.

Novel reader's confirmation was technically spoilers but like, everyone going in blind already tended to assume it was the Witch of Envy who transported Subaru and gave him RbD, or at the very least had special interest in him.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



MonsterEnvy posted:

Elsa the villain of the first arc.

The tavern girl?

Man she really didn't leave an impact on me at all unlike Beetlejuice. I looked her up in the wiki and I still don't remember her.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
I remember guts lady but I thought she was dead.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I think the fact that Subaru suffers some of the most hosed-up deaths at her hands on the first season makes her fairly memorable.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Can someone photoshop PTSD Emilia next to PTSD Subaru in bed?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Grouchio posted:

Can someone photoshop PTSD Emilia next to PTSD Subaru in bed?

Lol...

I was actually really happy Emilia is relying on him now...

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
This loving show.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Grouchio posted:

Can someone photoshop PTSD Emilia next to PTSD Subaru in bed?

It is pretty hosed up that he keeps shoving her back into the gauntlet over and over when she clearly can't handle it.

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Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Nitrousoxide posted:

The tavern girl?

Man she really didn't leave an impact on me at all unlike Beetlejuice. I looked her up in the wiki and I still don't remember her.

I'm the opposite. I felt like the tavern arc was like a quarter of the first season, but looking it up on wiki it was only three episodes.

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