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repiv
Aug 13, 2009

steam is back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (wolf Howl)

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Stokes
Jun 13, 2003

Maybe Kris can come in, and we can throw M-80s at his asshole.
My Grim Dawn tips are: Pick 2 damage types and stick with them. A third is fine but make it a DOT. Go to grimtools and reverse engineer your constellation set up for max efficiency. This means you're gonna have to use math, I'm sorry. P.S. Always get Giant's Blood or equivalent on any character. Avoid the DLC area with the ground covered in Aether. It sucks. If you insist, keep in mind Aether resist doesn't work on it but damage resist does. The Crucible is very good at letting you know just how good your character is.

I have like 1300 hours in the game which means I'm done playing it, but I hear they're still updating the game so good for them.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
One thing a lot of new people don't realize early on is that a bunch of early components (items that enhance armor/ weapons) also come with active and passive skills. It's a great way to flush out a build and fill in gaps to make the game play more active.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Yeah, it's real tempting to only run two or three active skills in Grim Dawn, and you can do it if you like, but throw in one or two more from your components and modifiers from your constellations and you still have a decent amount of activity.

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003
I wish Grim Dawn was turn-based. And made by Larian.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Det_no posted:

I wish Grim Dawn was turn-based. And made by Larian.

I'm still bummed that the X-com style Divinity gaming using Divinity: Original Sin 2 engine never happened.

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Anonymous Robot posted:

Remember how gross all that stuff in Tomb Raider 2016 or whatever was? drat that sucked

luxury handset posted:

im not generally a 3d action game player but i have no intention of playing the modern tomb raider games because the realistic, painful death sequences just disturb me more than they darkly entertain me. i get that it's not really sadism but rather trying to add some weight and consequence to failure but i just personally don't want to see that kind of content

This was weird because they get SO hyped up (and they are a little too serious) but the worst of them are almost completely concentrated in the early hours of the first game. By the sequels it's not much of a thing anymore at all. Their presence feels like something they wanted to focus on in the beginning, in time to put their E3 demos together or whatever, but then backed off on after getting negative feedback while still not wanting to go back and redo parts of the game

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003
At least Baldur's Gate 3 is looking nice. Speaking of X-com like games though, the Necromunda game is coming out soon and it looks A LOT like X-Com mixed with a bunch of other games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiN-pa0zG2E

Hopefully it'll be good cause Mordheim kind of wasn't.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


goferchan posted:

This was weird because they get SO hyped up (and they are a little too serious) but the worst of them are almost completely concentrated in the early hours of the first game. By the sequels it's not much of a thing anymore at all. Their presence feels like something they wanted to focus on in the beginning, in time to put their E3 demos together or whatever, but then backed off on after getting negative feedback while still not wanting to go back and redo parts of the game

The early concepts for TR2013 were as a survival horror game where Lara wandered around a remote island and rode a horse. Most of this was later scrapped but the brutal opening segment remained intact.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

BexGu posted:

I'm still bummed that the X-com style Divinity gaming using Divinity: Original Sin 2 engine never happened.

that got canceled?

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

exquisite tea posted:

The early concepts for TR2013 were as a survival horror game where Lara wandered around a remote island and rode a horse. Most of this was later scrapped but the brutal opening segment remained intact.

That's pretty unfortunate. This is probably a case of creators not wanting to kill their darlings, which in this case is the early work they'd already done.

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

Gay Rat Wedding posted:

that got canceled?

"indefinite hold" but yeah

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



exquisite tea posted:

The early concepts for TR2013 were as a survival horror game where Lara wandered around a remote island and rode a horse. Most of this was later scrapped but the brutal opening segment remained intact.


I think like in the first E3 promos for the game the PR people were saying creepy poo poo like "we imagine the player will be protective of lara and want to take care of her" and that contributed to them walking back the torture porn aspects of the game too

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

i just wish they'd stop changing her face every drat game it's weird as hell. And they really should have brought back the roguelite mode for shadow

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


BexGu posted:

I'm still bummed that the X-com style Divinity gaming using Divinity: Original Sin 2 engine never happened.

I have faith it will still see release a while after BG3 is out once they have the manpower to smooth out the rough ends that Logic Artists left in the project, at least if LA didn't deliver a steaming turd for Larian to try and fix.

But yeah, I was looking more forward to it than BG3.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Xander77 posted:

Maybe Irfranview or something, though that's glitchy as well...
Right - Irfranview and FRAPS outright fail to capture the damned game. That has got to be some issue in the game \ steam \ monitor settings that can be fixed. I'm not exactly going to LP the game by hitting the print screen key and pasting, one screen at a time.

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

Phlegmish posted:

That's an interesting question, no matter what anyone says. I actually tolerate sexual content more than I do violence, personally.

However, in both cases, the level of detail, context, and level of player involvement are what determine what I find unacceptable. And it's arbitrary, even hypocritical, but human beings aren't rational. For example, in a game like Doom or Serious Sam, I have no problems blowing up thousands of (especially non-human) creatures so that they explode in ludicrous gibs. They're your enemies, they're grotesque, they don't really talk, they had it coming. I don't think twice about it. And in a game like Vermintide 2, or hell, basically any Western RPG of the past two decades, I don't really pay attention to the mounds and mounds of gruesomely mutilated corpses and skulls that surround you.

But when my character is the one inflicting the damage, or I'm forced to watch graphic details of it happening, I check out. A series like Sniper Elite I find almost viscerally disturbing from what I've seen, not because of the level of violence (which is mild if anything), but because of the way said violence is framed and presented. You're rewarded for landing 'trick shots' on enemies who are clearly presented as regular human beings, even though you're not supposed to think of them that way since they're Germans who were born in the wrong decade, and then they give you a slow-motion recap of the damage inflicted by your bullet. Wow, you got him in the eye! Watch him die in agony as we zoom in on his face! Omg this next one I shot in the balls haha genital mutilation is funny :D

The same goes for sexual content. I don't care at all if it's a 'porn game', I'm about to check out a bunch of them, and gently caress any neo-Puritan that has a problem with that. I also wouldn't mind too much if the game in question has you fighting an enemy that uses rape as a weapon, and you see the aftermath of that or something - provided it's not handled in a tone-deaf way.
However, if it's your character that is nudged into raping someone, and you have to do a QTE or whatever to rape them successfully, and all of it is presented in a graphic way, I would immediately close the game.

As I said, it's not rational. It's a bit like that alleged Stalin quote: One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.

e: oh and just ignore the goons going 'lol gently caress off CHUD MRA INCEL CREEP', it's SA, they're contractually obligated to post a combination of these words every few hours.

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What in the loving gently caress?

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos
I refuse to believe this line of conversation wasn't just a honeypot to catch all the weirdos who are pro-rape.

E: And Pro-Nazi, what the gently caress?

The Joe Man
Apr 7, 2007

Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984
Is The Evil Within 1 worth playing through with the awful save game system that's made me repeat tons of slow sections already due to being a clunky piece of poo poo? On chapter 4 I think and fell into another blood sewer or whatever. Pretty much only playing through it because I heard EW2 was surprisingly good.

Flimf
Sep 3, 2006

How is that post "pro-rape" and "pro-nazi"?

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos
The part where he said "I'm ok with rape being used as a weapon by enemies in erotic video games" and the part where he said "SS soldiers were just born in the wrong generation in Germany."

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

explosivo posted:

Sex Poker
Link is nsfw as gently caress
How in the world is this a thing?

it's just the latest example of a long pedigree

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

The Joe Man posted:

Is The Evil Within 1 worth playing through with the awful save game system that's made me repeat tons of slow sections already due to being a clunky piece of poo poo? On chapter 4 I think and fell into another blood sewer or whatever. Pretty much only playing through it because I heard EW2 was surprisingly good.

you should have just played EW2.

EW2 is extremely good, the best RE4-esque experience you can get. EW1 has some interesting things but just a bit too rough, rather deeply flawed, and clunky. i played 2 first and went back to try 1 and yeah you should have just went directly to 2.

Xaris fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Aug 6, 2020

Flimf
Sep 3, 2006

Boba Pearl posted:

The part where he said "I'm ok with rape being used as a weapon by enemies in erotic video games" and the part where he said "SS soldiers were just born in the wrong generation in Germany."

You are really reaching here....

They are just saying that they would be okay with a game where a rape has happened, as opposed to posters in the thread saying they dont want to deal with it at all (which is also completely fair).
They are not saying they want want to watch enemies do it. And even go on to say that they would immediately drop the game if the player was made to do it.

The "pro-nazi" thing just seems like a weird dig at germans, implying that all germans would be nazis if they lived during those years (and i doubt this was their intent).

It just seems like some weird wording and if i remember correctly Phlegmish is not a native english speaker.
No need roll in and immediately accouse them of being a pro-rape chud or whatever.

Also lol at that 1 day probation ...

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

Steam Thread 2020: I Have a Philosophical Question

ShootaBoy
Jan 6, 2010

Anime is Bad.
Except for Pokemon, Valkyria Chronicles and 100% OJ.

Flimf posted:

You are really reaching here....

They are just saying that they would be okay with a game where a rape has happened, as opposed to posters in the thread saying they dont want to deal with it at all (which is also completely fair).
They are not saying they want want to watch enemies do it. And even go on to say that they would immediately drop the game if the player was made to do it.

The "pro-nazi" thing just seems like a weird dig at germans, implying that all germans would be nazis if they lived during those years (and i doubt this was their intent).

It just seems like some weird wording and if i remember correctly Phlegmish is not a native english speaker.
No need roll in and immediately accouse them of being a pro-rape chud or whatever.

Also lol at that 1 day probation ...

Are you really going to pick this hill to die on?

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos
E: Actually instead of apologizing for continuing the derail, I'm gonna just not continue the derail.

Boba Pearl fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Aug 6, 2020

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
e: actually, let's just not go there any more than we need to and be done with the whole thing

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I thought the moral of Nazi Germany was like "every single human being on earth is a couple turns of the dial away from doing unspeakable evil," not "people born into this region of the world at this particular moment in time were inherently predisposed to commit atrocities."

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Flimf posted:

They are just saying that they would be okay with a game where a rape has happened, as opposed to posters in the thread saying they dont want to deal with it at all (which is also completely fair).
They are not saying they want want to watch enemies do it. And even go on to say that they would immediately drop the game if the player was made to do it.
"fighting an enemy that uses rape as a weapon, and you see the aftermath of that or something" is not necessarily past tense.

The Joe Man
Apr 7, 2007

Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

Xaris posted:

you should have just played EW2.

EW2 is extremely good, the best RE4-esque experience you can get. EW1 has some interesting things but just a bit too rough, rather deeply flawed, and clunky. i played 2 first and went back to try 1 and yeah you should have just went directly to 2.
now there's a lady trapped in the middle of a lobby in one of those magician water tanks except i think it's piss? monster piss???

this game is pretty bad, they probably should've just made a movie instead since 95% of it is scripted outcomes/invincible enemies/absolute bullshit

also almost every time you finally come up to a savepoint you have to go through some slow hospital interactive cutscene with your guy going "whoa...where am i?? this is crazy....." before you can just save your loving game. YOU'RE IN THE HOSPITAL, YOU'VE SEEN THIS PLACE LIKE 20 TIMES DUDE

it's great

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
I think I bought this game in a sale at some point but never played it. Now I want to play it to see if it's as terrible as this sounds :haw:

haldolium
Oct 22, 2016



exquisite tea posted:

Horizon Zero Dawn preload has started on Steam, a humble 70GBs. GMG has sent out activation keys if you purchased it from there.

Did decryption with Steam improve over the years?

I think 2018 was the last time I used preload since it took literal hours for my CPU to decrypt games with 70+GB

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
If so, probably not by much. I had Borderlands 3 preloaded and that took forever to decrypt too.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


I like the part in rear end Creed 3, where every time I go ten feet in the woods I get surrounded by a pack of wolves requiring me to win a lengthy series of quick time events.

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014


The Joe Man posted:

now there's a lady trapped in the middle of a lobby in one of those magician water tanks except i think it's piss? monster piss???

this game is pretty bad, they probably should've just made a movie instead since 95% of it is scripted outcomes/invincible enemies/absolute bullshit

also almost every time you finally come up to a savepoint you have to go through some slow hospital interactive cutscene with your guy going "whoa...where am i?? this is crazy....." before you can just save your loving game. YOU'RE IN THE HOSPITAL, YOU'VE SEEN THIS PLACE LIKE 20 TIMES DUDE

it's great

I totally wouldn't blame you if you skip to EW2, since it's a vastly superior game, just make sure to look up EW1's story cutscenes on youtube if you do- there's enough poo poo that happens in the back half that you really wanna know what's up before diving in to 2.

Meanwhile, is Wurm Unlimited good? Everything I've read seems split between "Astonishingly deep and complex survival thingie" and "opaque, frustrating, infuriating piece of garbage." Is this a Shenmue I situation, where both are correct?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Xander77 posted:

Right - Irfranview and FRAPS outright fail to capture the damned game. That has got to be some issue in the game \ steam \ monitor settings that can be fixed. I'm not exactly going to LP the game by hitting the print screen key and pasting, one screen at a time.

You could set up a macro hotkey in ShareX, I think.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

pros to preloading games: the space is allocated, I don't have to wait for the full install when it drops, !!!!

cons: would my steam icon PLEASE stop flashing yellow oh my god

halokiller
Dec 28, 2008

Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves


For those wondering about Fall Guys, you get a good idea of it if you'll like it or not within the 2-hr refund window since that's how much content is there so far. It's like if Warioware only had a handful of minigames. It's good price of free on PSN+, but $20 is a bit steep.

halokiller fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Aug 6, 2020

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Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler

Phlegmish posted:

That's an interesting question, no matter what anyone says. I actually tolerate sexual content more than I do violence, personally.

However, in both cases, the level of detail, context, and level of player involvement are what determine what I find unacceptable. And it's arbitrary, even hypocritical, but human beings aren't rational. For example, in a game like Doom or Serious Sam, I have no problems blowing up thousands of (especially non-human) creatures so that they explode in ludicrous gibs. They're your enemies, they're grotesque, they don't really talk, they had it coming. I don't think twice about it. And in a game like Vermintide 2, or hell, basically any Western RPG of the past two decades, I don't really pay attention to the mounds and mounds of gruesomely mutilated corpses and skulls that surround you.

But when my character is the one inflicting the damage, or I'm forced to watch graphic details of it happening, I check out. A series like Sniper Elite I find almost viscerally disturbing from what I've seen, not because of the level of violence (which is mild if anything), but because of the way said violence is framed and presented. You're rewarded for landing 'trick shots' on enemies who are clearly presented as regular human beings, even though you're not supposed to think of them that way since they're Germans who were born in the wrong decade, and then they give you a slow-motion recap of the damage inflicted by your bullet. Wow, you got him in the eye! Watch him die in agony as we zoom in on his face! Omg this next one I shot in the balls haha genital mutilation is funny :D

The same goes for sexual content. I don't care at all if it's a 'porn game', I'm about to check out a bunch of them, and gently caress any neo-Puritan that has a problem with that. I also wouldn't mind too much if the game in question has you fighting an enemy that uses rape as a weapon, and you see the aftermath of that or something - provided it's not handled in a tone-deaf way.
However, if it's your character that is nudged into raping someone, and you have to do a QTE or whatever to rape them successfully, and all of it is presented in a graphic way, I would immediately close the game.

As I said, it's not rational. It's a bit like that alleged Stalin quote: One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.

e: oh and just ignore the goons going 'lol gently caress off CHUD MRA INCEL CREEP', it's SA, they're contractually obligated to post a combination of these words every few hours.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Stux posted:

v funny to be writing long walls of text but being unable to grasp why the structure of that sentence sounds the way it does

and the question "why is murder ok but rape is bad huh??" is a reddit incel mra question. no one cares about regular sex stuff. theres many types of violence of which rape is one that are often out of bounds because using them would be insanely gross, and especially using dooms violence as an example to put next to rape is a galaxy brain level comparison. none of this is complicated or difficult to understand if you re brain consists of more than a little earthworm wiggling around on your spine.

These forums are seriously going down the drain. If there was a button that would permanently delete these forums and all the backups, I would push it instantly.

And for the record, Reddit was never a pedophile haven.

Mods, please give me an excuse to delete SA from my browser history and memory, as I will gladly do so. Although from the way my health is looking, I doubt I'll be alive past the end of this month, so just gently caress everything anyway.

Suicide is the answer.

Heaven and Hell do not exist. We are all actors on the grand stage of life. When our bodies die, we step off the stage and gaze at it for a time, before returning to it in a new body. And the stage of life may encompass any possible realm of imagination, both dreamed and yet to be. From the physical, material driven universe we find ourselves in today, to the realms of the fictional and fantastical.

Think of all the science fiction and fantasy stories you may have read. Any of those is a possible setting for this grand stage of life, across an infinite number of parallel universes and realities.

In addition, Free Will is a malleable concept. There are those of the Actors that truly have Free Will and can change their potential actions freely, and those of the Actors that are locked into a specific path in their current Role but may be interacted with by those with Free Will. There is also a sliding scale from a Fixed Path to Complete Free Will. I believe myself to be on this latter scale, although I do not know how much Free Will I truly Have.

No matter the actions that an Actor may take in their current Role on the Grand Stage of Life, they are never penalized for those Actions, and they may choose freely for any future Roles on future Grand Stages of Life.

In our Hollywood movies that have brutal Dictators and Villains, are the Actors for those roles ever penalized for future movies?

After all, the lifespan of a Human is an infinitesimal fraction compared to the Infinity of Time. Why should an immortal soul receive everlasting rewards or punishment for a single short life?

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