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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
My biggest problem is for all the world building I don’t get what motivated John anymore. The second movie had annoying mafia guy who basically rammed a train through his house to say “yo John wake up i need you to drive me to the airport!”

At this point they’ll probably bring his wife back to life and I’ll be all for it

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Flying Zamboni
May 7, 2007

but, uh... well, there it is

As long as the John Wick movies keep giving me stuff like the knife throwing fight in 3 then they can hang around as long as they like.

The Klowner
Apr 20, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

for a second I thought scorcese was protesting the Big Dumb Unnecessary Cash Grab Sequel phenomenon and was super on board

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Taintrunner posted:

The story was a lot better when it was all a big joke about a dude going on a revenge murder spree because his dog was killed.

Then it went entirely up its own rear end with nonsensical secret assassin fantasy world building and completely lost the plot. It’s just mediocre action porn that’s already been done better in other, better, movies, in some instances directly ripping them off I.e. The Villainess.

And after 3 it’s clear Keanu’s getting up in age and losing a step. Watching dudes run into frame and get judo thrown to death is just tiring.

The villainess did not do it better. It's more ambitious in its fight scenes, certainly, but its also a film whose reach exceeds its grasp.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
David Lynch symbolically destroys quibi by having a car hop eat it in burger form

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Alan Smithee posted:

My biggest problem is for all the world building I don’t get what motivated John anymore. The second movie had annoying mafia guy who basically rammed a train through his house to say “yo John wake up i need you to drive me to the airport!”

At this point they’ll probably bring his wife back to life and I’ll be all for it

John is motivated by not doing this any more. But he has too. It’s a cyclical drive

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Wick's motives are pretty obvious.

Dog that was last thing given to him by his love.
Blood Debt he had to do or he would get a contract on him for disobeying the rules.
Contract on him.
Betrayal and still a kill on sight if seen.


Spoilered incase havent seen all three.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
And 2 happened anyway so it’s like Gone in 60 Seconds for me

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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The MSJ posted:

He will die in JW4 and JW5 is about him killing Death itself

John and Charon's Bogus Journey?

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
“John you are trapped on this bus and you must kill everyone on the list or it will explode”

John Wick F4rious: Speed Wick

Nightmare Cinema
Apr 4, 2020

no.

The MSJ posted:

He will die in JW4 and JW5 is about him killing Death itself

John Wick 5 written by Nick Cave confirmed.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
JW3 sucked but 1 & 2 are still excellent and that alone means I’ll tune in for 4 & 5. The only other good tentpole blockbuster action series around right now is Fast & Furious, and that’s just because of how insanely stupid its become.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

MacheteZombie posted:

Teams up with Alex Winter to escape hell

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Yeah you're right.

married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender

Taintrunner posted:

The story was a lot better when it was all a big joke about a dude going on a revenge murder spree because his dog was killed.

Then it went entirely up its own rear end with nonsensical secret assassin fantasy world building and completely lost the plot. It’s just mediocre action porn that’s already been done better in other, better, movies, in some instances directly ripping them off I.e. The Villainess.


Completely agreed on all of this.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

JW5 is about John Wick shooting COVID to death.

They both die. Pretty bittersweet ending.

Post credits scene is an ad for Blanton’s bourbon.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://mobile.twitter.com/YahooMoviesUK/status/1291661031177990144

Greenlighted 2020: The Year We Were Put in the Corner

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
1. Jennifer Grey, what are you doing?
2. Another Dirty Dancing sequel?

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Dirty Dancing 2(uh 3?): Baby Come Back

Johnny returns in ghost form

with sexy results

Universe Master
Jun 20, 2005

Darn Fine Pie

Possessed Whoopi Goldberg as Patrick Swayze has worked before.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
CG Patrick Swayze and Jerry Orbach. Count me in.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Starring Paula Abghoul and Fred Askare.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Taintrunner posted:

The story was a lot better when it was all a big joke about a dude going on a revenge murder spree because his dog was killed.

Then it went entirely up its own rear end with nonsensical secret assassin fantasy world building and completely lost the plot. It’s just mediocre action porn that’s already been done better in other, better, movies, in some instances directly ripping them off I.e. The Villainess.

Villainess has the same problems with nonsense plot as JW3, but amplified, and doesnt have good actors to cruise that nonsense

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

https://twitter.com/A24/status/1291444075674112001?s=20

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
John Wick Vs. Chev Chelios :colbert:

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Gatts posted:

John Wick 5 is going to have Alex Winter as the main villain isn't it.

I wonder if 4 is going to have Dracula.

4 is going to have the real Baba Yaga, including her chicken leg house.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Lid posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/YahooMoviesUK/status/1291661031177990144

Greenlighted 2020: The Year We Were Put in the Corner

I imagine the film will be set in the 80s and she'll be there to say "oh, this reminds me of that time when I was an underage teenager and an older man hosed me good."

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

fatherboxx posted:

Villainess has the same problems with nonsense plot as JW3, but amplified, and doesnt have good actors to cruise that nonsense

No way is it dumber than JW3, with all the jet setting, desert wandering, all the stupid lore around the Adjucator and the High Table, etc. which no amount of “acting” can save. It’s become so bloated and internally inconsistent that even the cast can’t keep it together, including a whole arc around cutting off Wick’s finger so he can kill his friend to get out of being excommunicado and then backs out of it at the last minute. It’s so inhuman and detached from any sort of serious emotional connection that it’s just set dressing to get to the action sequences.

Villainess is way more restrained about its secret assassin academy, sorry. It also helps that they didn’t make three of the drat things. The plot can get a bit convoluted but at least there’s some actual emotional weight, and character motivation between actual people with adversarial relationships, which highlights and grounds the climax, with a woman so motivated and pissed off that she’s riding on the hood of a car and driving it with an axe so she can catapult herself into a moving bus. Does the CGI budget start to run out around then? Sure.

But it’s something ambitious that you haven’t seen before, which beats the hell out of the guys from The Raid getting beat up or clowned on every time they show up in a Western made movie.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Lid posted:

John Wick 2 is better than 1, but John Wick 3 is a bad bad baaaaaad movie. I've never seen a filler episode in movie form.

Haha

JW3 still had some good action scenes. As an action movie fan thats alot.

Anyone remember the two on 1 Jackie Chan fight in Who Am I? Justified that entire movie.

E: lol its on the dvd cover

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Alan Smithee posted:

Dirty Dancing 2(uh 3?): Baby Come Back

Johnny returns in ghost form

with sexy results

Dirty Dancing Havana Nights is a legimately good movie...

That I accidentally watched on PIX at like 1am ten years ago

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

All this trash talking of “JW” just makes me think of Jurassic World and it’s hilarious.

Hell, have them cross over at this point. Have Keanu fight/ride a T-Rex. I’ll go see it.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

AceOfFlames posted:

All this trash talking of “JW” just makes me think of Jurassic World and it’s hilarious.

Hell, have them cross over at this point. Have Keanu fight/ride a T-Rex. I’ll go see it.

they killed my raptor Doctor

it was all I had left to remember her by

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I enjoyed John Wick 2 going more operatic after the lean first entry, just to get something different—but I felt no real desire to see more of the same without some significant shakeup and skipped 3. If 4 looks like it's doing something different or interesting I'll jump back on board, but if the only draw is good action then I'm good with sitting it out.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
I still wonder how there are any assassins left in New York after 2. The endless flow of cannon fodder made sense in JW 1 since that was the mob, now we have an organization with triple the manpower and it's like, are there actually any regular people in John Wick's world.

Maybe his wife was the only human that wasn't a gangster/assassin adjacent, and that's why he cherished her so much.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
assassin for hire isn't the prestige it used to be. It's literally gig economy work

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Make JW4 from the POV of a low-level assassin trying to feed his family who has to go after Wick using that criminal gig economy app from the newest Westworld season.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Shageletic posted:

Anyone remember the two on 1 Jackie Chan fight in Who Am I? Justified that entire movie.

E: lol its on the dvd cover



Also, the quick little excited dog spin move when this guy goes "What?!" near the end of the movie. That justifies the while thing as well.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

feedmyleg posted:

Make JW4 from the POV of a low-level assassin trying to feed his family who has to go after Wick using that criminal gig economy app from the newest Westworld season.

They borrowed a nice suit and some hair wax from their more successful brother in law.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
The story of the John Wick movies has gotten increasingly ridiculous, but I honestly don't mind as long as they keep coming up with excuses for Keanu to have badass fight scenes with people.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
As one of the top ranked assassins in the world, John Wick finds himself obligated to fight an obnoxious nerd with a beam katana

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