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https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/551620/view/2755593078928295795 Approaching Infinity sells better for 10$ on steam instead of for 40$ on some random publisher website, who knew?
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StrixNebulosa posted:https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/551620/view/2755593078928295795 Hey now, Shrapnel Games isn't just some random publisher; they're the assholes who held Dominions hostage for years. It was what, $60 and mail-order only? Seriously, gently caress Shrapnel
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Aug 7, 2020 21:14
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oh god, if they were under the same thumb that kept dominions down for so long then i feel bad for them
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Aug 7, 2020 21:29
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I wish Dominions could be properly turn based or had decent AI to play single player because I really want to explore that world and those mechanics, but I feel there's a big barrier there.
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Aug 7, 2020 22:11
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StrixNebulosa posted:https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/551620/view/2755593078928295795
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Aug 7, 2020 23:13
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Void bastards on sale! Impressions?
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Aug 8, 2020 00:39
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teacup posted:Void bastards on sale! Impressions? I got it in the Humble Monthly pack last month. It's good, kind of like a more action-oriented version of System Shock, although it's still viable to play stealthily. It has meta-progression in the form of unlocking equipment. So when your character dies, you lose things like ammunition, resources and whatever unique traits they had, but you keep access to whatever equipment you unlocked. The campaign is a little bit like FTL in that you choose which path to take and you are limited by food and fuel. Different ships will have different loot to get and also different enemy types. There's a lot of risk/reward and your food will prevent you from waiting in the same place too long and your fuel will dictate to some extent how much you can explore before going back to the main path. Some ships will have special modifiers that change your tactics or approach. I like it.
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Aug 8, 2020 01:18
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teacup posted:Void bastards on sale! Impressions? it's one of my favorite roguelites! I highly suggest starting on hard difficulty though. Gay Rat Wedding posted:Extremely. I’ve completed 5 runs and might go back for another at some point, although you need to play on hard (eventually hard bastard) for the game to stay engaging since it’s basically all about regulating resources and you get too many resources on normal. haven’t messed with the really restrictive modes like foon mode or “[weapon category] only” and think the default mode is the way to go since the game is a bit too long for the gimmicky challenge modes they added not to overstay their welcome, since they limit your gear overmuch.
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Aug 8, 2020 02:04
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A Strange Aeon posted:I wish Dominions could be properly turn based or had decent AI to play single player because I really want to explore that world and those mechanics, but I feel there's a big barrier there. What do you mean by properly turn-based?
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teacup posted:Void bastards on sale! Impressions? Also disagree with Dramicus that playing stealthily is viable. Yes you will often ignore enemies and evade pursuers, but the game does not really support a stealth style. edit: of the challenge modes I like Authority Figure the most, but Termination Bonus is also interesting. Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Aug 8, 2020 |
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Aug 8, 2020 02:15
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Dramicus posted:I'm just drinking coffee and this poo poo's fun. You can actually do some pretty interesting builds, but they only start emerging around stage 5 or so. I would recommend always picking up the +health whenever it's available though. It gives you a little more breathing room and takes some of the pressure off. For literally $2, it's really fun. I'm starting to consistently clear the first 3 or so levels, and slowly am learning how the later levels and new enemies/obstacles work. I probably need to turn down the x-axis sensitivity though, because holy poo poo does the game want me to spin in circles any time I even slightly inch the mouse over.
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Phigs posted:What do you mean by properly turn-based?
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There's also the Conquest of Elysium series, which is their similar single player game. The AI there is a little spotty in places, too. A bit too much shotgun creation of units that wander around the map wasting your time, instead of ever consolidating their forces and trying to actually beat the player's army. resistentialism fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Aug 8, 2020 |
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Aug 8, 2020 03:48
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Conquest of Elysium is like a carnival. Sometimes you're just screwed right our of the gate. I like to play in big maps with lots of AI to counteract generation issues.
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Aug 8, 2020 03:52
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It's still an incredibly huge engine with a baffling number of options, just not nearly as many as Dominions.
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Aug 8, 2020 03:54
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Elephant Parade posted:I assume they mean alternating turns, rather than simultaneous ones. Yeah, exactly. I don't know why but doing simultaneous turns when it's not real time feels weird and it never clicked for me. I loved reading those old LPs of big goon games though and even bought a physical book for Dominions 4.
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Aug 8, 2020 03:55
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One Way Heroics is perfectly decent, I just wish the moment to moment gameplay was more fun. 95% of it is bumping into dudes and agonizing over weight limits.
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bees x1000 posted:One Way Heroics is perfectly decent, I just wish the moment to moment gameplay was more fun. 95% of it is bumping into dudes and agonizing over weight limits. I think this can mitigated by power building early on and fighting the boss earlier
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Dirk the Average posted:For literally $2, it's really fun. I'm starting to consistently clear the first 3 or so levels, and slowly am learning how the later levels and new enemies/obstacles work. I probably need to turn down the x-axis sensitivity though, because holy poo poo does the game want me to spin in circles any time I even slightly inch the mouse over. I've found that it's best if you commit to a weapon throughout the run and pick upgrades that are geared specifically to that weapon. For example, the "extra clips" upgrade doesn't really matter much for the pistol or smg, but it drastically improves the effectiveness of the shotgun each time you take it. So, pick something to specialize in and lean in as hard as you can. I still think taking the +health whenever it shows up is the optimal move as the later levels get progressively complex and I've found that you go through enemy-dense sections interspersed with long winding sections that are sort of meant to drain your health through enemy scarcity and ambushes. Like around stage 9 you start seeing long hallways that go up and down levels and sort of hide the way forward and they are filled with small enemies that are tough to hit with anything other than the shotgun. It's a really polished and well-put-together experience.
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A Strange Aeon posted:I wish Dominions could be properly turn based or had decent AI to play single player because I really want to explore that world and those mechanics, but I feel there's a big barrier there. The learning period is long, so by the time you stop being a noob and see how the AI is really lacking, 60 hours will pass. Which is enough imo for the price. This is why I still recommend it as single player game.
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A Strange Aeon posted:Yeah, exactly. I don't know why but doing simultaneous turns when it's not real time feels weird and it never clicked for me. I loved reading those old LPs of big goon games though and even bought a physical book for Dominions 4. Simultaneous turns is the only way to make dozen+ player pbem games even remotely manageable.
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I guess what I'd really want is some way to play it with a few friends where we could team up against a bunch of AI opponents, like we'd do in Age of Wonders. I know it's not the same kind of game really, that's just how I think I'd have the most fun with it. I should really explore it more, even single player like you're saying, there's a lot of play before it gets impossible to lose and enough different civilizations to try out to keep it interesting.
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FWIW you can play Conquest of Elysium in multiplayer! However the "sometimes you're just hosed right out the gate" thing still applies and that can make it tedious to coordinate a start that everyone's happy with. I wouldn't really recommend a serious competitive game, the balance is all hosed to hell ( if you're playing Enchanter or something and a Dryad Queen or High Priestess happens to wander by).I played a "competitive co-op" round with two friends, where we all played different Archbishops of El and competed to convert all of Elysium and become the Pope (and then cause Armageddon). That was a lot of fun. e: It's also fun to play other weird themed teams, like going dwarves + pale ones + earth warlocks and attempting to fully explore and conquer the underworld using digging units, or going high priestess + hoburg + enchanter and just strip-mining the entire map until nothing remains but gentle hills and hoburg villages Angry Diplomat fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Aug 8, 2020 |
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Aug 8, 2020 15:19
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CoE has an even worse AI than Dominions. Just saying.
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Still banging away at Nuclear Throne, still nowhere near beating the ice level. Two criticisms: -I hate the portals' auto-suck mechanism with a burning passion. I know why it exists, but it seems counterproductive as I'm super cautious of clearing a stage lest I miss a red chest or leave a weapon behind. -And the isometric walls you walk behind are objectively terrible and totally undefendable. Aiming/walking past them is a mess, they need to be 1/3 as high as they are or just SOMETHING. It also took me way too long to realize the basic bullet does 3 damage, not 1. That's not really telegraphed imo.
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Invisible Inc the cyberpunk stealth-heist roguelite is only $5. I highly recommend it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/243970/Invisible_Inc/
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Serephina posted:It also took me way too long to realize the basic bullet does 3 damage, not 1. That's not really telegraphed imo.
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Serephina posted:
I haven't actually beaten Nuclear Throne yet, so maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling you should be focusing on speed.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I haven't actually beaten Nuclear Throne yet, so maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling you should be focusing on speed. Outside of fighting Lil' Hunter, it's more about twitch skills and keeping the combat arena under control. Speed helps but isn't vital. It may help to know that if you don't open a red chest, future red chests have a chance to be big (dropping 3 weapons); that chance doesn't reset until you get a big red chest, so it's actually perfectly viable to just skip opening red chests if you like your current weapons well enough and want a better chance at getting access to high-level ones later. By a similar token, if you skip a rad canister, the next rad canister will be larger. Don't do that too much though... (or do, it's part of unlocking one of the characters). That just leaves the ammo chests as things you can miss out on, but usually missing an ammo chest isn't a huge problem.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Outside of fighting Lil' Hunter, it's more about twitch skills and keeping the combat arena under control. Speed helps but isn't vital.
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yeah, the short answer is that getting pulled into the next level right away rarely ever matters much and you usually don't need to worry about combing through every level. the biggest thing you have to worry about is actually the portal blowing up nearby objects like cars.
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What weapons are you using? Good common weapons for beating the ice city are things like sluggers and crossbows which can one-shot yetis mid-charge. The AR takes two bursts but is still fine. The big theme of the ice city is that it's the first place with lots of enemies that come after you instead of sitting around or wandering mostly-randomly, so you have to be very aggressive about identifying and putting them down. Ammo is cheap, lean on that fire button. e: with regards to getting caught in the portal, after you've played a bit you'll know exactly when and where it'll spawn -- it always pops up at the location of the last enemy's corpse. That makes it pretty easy to escape them (though the above posters are correct in that there's usually no point). megane fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Aug 8, 2020 |
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I and a couple friends got into NT around the same time, and for a while we were all stuck around lil hunter too. At some point we learned that two shots of the Assault Slugger will kill him right away and that's how we did it til we got good enough to get him with other stuff. You might need Scarier Face, but you should get that every time imo, changes a huge number of weapons from two shot kills to one shot kills, which obviously has great synergy with trigger fingers. Fun bonus: if you like YV, you can blaap lil hunter with an assault slugger and kill him before he finishes his first shot!
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My favorite NT moment ever was getting to Lil' Hunter with YV, throne butt (i.e. "fire 4 shots with one click"), and a nuke launcher.
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I'm still trying to find a new replacement for Nuclear Throne and Gungeon. Played the hell out of those games a few years ago and haven't found another yet that comes close. Neurovoider seems to be the closest but it isn't clicking for me so far.
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Escape Goat posted:I'm still trying to find a new replacement for Nuclear Throne and Gungeon. Played the hell out of those games a few years ago and haven't found another yet that comes close. Neurovoider seems to be the closest but it isn't clicking for me so far. Dead Cells and Hades are my faves, but maybe they scratch a different itch than those, as they are more 'overhead dual stick shooter with a bit of bullet hell'. /shrug Maybe Exit the Gungeon? They updated it some weeks ago and now weapons are not totally random.
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Escape Goat posted:I'm still trying to find a new replacement for Nuclear Throne and Gungeon. Played the hell out of those games a few years ago and haven't found another yet that comes close. Neurovoider seems to be the closest but it isn't clicking for me so far. Maybe Monolith? It's got a different pace but might be similar enough to scratch the itch.
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Escape Goat posted:I'm still trying to find a new replacement for Nuclear Throne and Gungeon. Played the hell out of those games a few years ago and haven't found another yet that comes close. Neurovoider seems to be the closest but it isn't clicking for me so far. Have you heard of our lord and savior Synthetik?
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Escape Goat posted:I'm still trying to find a new replacement for Nuclear Throne and Gungeon. Played the hell out of those games a few years ago and haven't found another yet that comes close. Neurovoider seems to be the closest but it isn't clicking for me so far. Monolith
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