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Pyrotoad
Oct 24, 2010


Illegal Hen
Anyone else getting bad vibes from the girl with alien dreadlocks repeatedly apologising for being 'uppity' because she's just too goshdarn arrogant or am I reading too much into it.

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Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Pyrotoad posted:

Anyone else getting bad vibes from the girl with alien dreadlocks repeatedly apologising for being 'uppity' because she's just too goshdarn arrogant or am I reading too much into it.

Mookie doesn't see race, he sees the nerds who actually knew things about stuff in High School who always showed him up grovelling before his superior Niceguyism.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

Pyrotoad posted:

Anyone else getting bad vibes from the girl with alien dreadlocks repeatedly apologising for being 'uppity' because she's just too goshdarn arrogant or am I reading too much into it.

Yeah I got caught up on that too. For a guy who’s injecting fantasy racism into everything he writes Mookie seems totally unaware when he’s using terms or imagery that’s actually pretty racist. I legitimately would like to ask him one day what made him so fascinated by racism, cause it doesn’t seem like he’s even able to notice when he’s doing it.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Eh I think that may be reading into it a bit too much, yeah. She has dreads because she's an Asari knockoff. There's enough of other things wrong that you don't need to invent some.

And don't worry, if you want heavy handed fantasy racism done wrong, that's coming in the next chapter hardcore.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!
Oh the dreads didn't really register as coded to me, But the way uppity was used here flew way close to how uppity is used as a barely coded racist term. It came up often during the Obama presidency, with right wing pundits throwing out uppity any time a black person was seen acting in a way that wasn't expected of them, which mainly meant they were coming off like they thought they were smarter than white people. Personally I think (in the US especially) there's no real way to use uppity without evoking its racist history, but here in Star Power it's specifically being used by a minority, to a white woman, to apologize for how her being knowledgeable made her feel.

That's where the alarm bells start going off, cause while the narrative is trying to tell us that the green woman was wrong for how she was showing off, we saw what their idea of being a know-it-all was. Not only was she not really being obnoxious about history, she was acting pretty similarly to how Danica is all the time about astronomy. I don't think it was done out of malice, as you mentioned the whole scenario seems to draw more from Mookie writing about his own overzealousness. I do think though that someone who's always writing about racism should be able to recognize when they've accidentally stumbled into loaded terms like that. Even just googling the word uppity brings back this as one of the first results:



It should've felt at least a little weird to Mookie when he read it back to himself.

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa
While sometimes aliens and creatures with dreads are definitely black coded - Predators, Knuckles the Echidna - a lot of times I think it's also just because head tails/tentacles are a way to have a hairless alien or fantasy creature still have something that visually 'feels like' hair. Like why people who might fin a bald woman unattractive still can find Twi'leks and Togruta attractive. And, well, if you don't do big tentacles like those two, you wind up with sort of dread-like tentacles like what we see in this.

Mookie's gonna Mookie, and something tells me that while he's probably not as bad as Mookie, Garth isn't exactly the canniest writer around either. If an alien race was meant to be black coded, I'm pretty sure we'd know and wouldn't have to speculate.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

The Little Death posted:

They're always about to do bad things, so she always has to step in. there's just no other option! Preemptive strike! She's perfectly diplomatic to the natives greet her like a celebrity and give her everything she needs though.

Also still can't tell whether or not the zel gux planets with their little elemental themed races are part of the millennium federation or not. Like who are they in relation to the federation, that apparently federation archaeologists study the ruins on their planet, but as far as we've seen none of the species of the system exists offworld in the federation.

They are but with exceptions. The Air-, Earth-, and Wood-themed guys are in, the Water-themed guys are only partly in (the ones that appeared in the comic are in; but they're said to share their oceans with other fishguy races who have not accepted to join the federation, which is an interesting political problem that is not at all explored), and the Fire-themed guys did not join.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Everyone ready for a new issue? No? Well too bad.

Chapter 4.1



Get ready for this stupid poo poo being the first page of every issue this chapter.



I skipped past a bunch of friendly bonding and recap exposition, as it’s all terribly boring. Danica suddenly starts doing this randomly, and Mitch has gone silent.



Psy-ops guy is back, and now he’s going to be monitoring Danica. And participating in terrible dad jokes.



Wait, an actual threat? Is there a mysterious entity on its way? That’s the same name as the big globe thing that gives Guardians their powers in Destiny, so maybe it’s something like that.

… Also I didn’t realize just how much Star Power is like the Guardians from Destiny. They even get their powers from “light”. Eh, whatever, all scifi cribs from each other.



Oh come the gently caress on, last time you flashed to her face it’s because you had PTSD. Now you suddenly have a crush? Guh.



Purple Lady is assigned to be Burke’s counselor because she used to be a Void Angel as well, and god forbid you assign someone who actually is qualified to do that job.



I think Psy-Ops guy might be my least favorite character in all of this series. I hate the “psychologist that basically can read your mind" trope. Also everyone seems to think he actually CAN read minds which is absolutely bizarre.



ugh



So anyway, he’s unexpectedly personable, and Danica gets a lot off her chest, while Psy-Ops guy rains down compliments. Seems fine, right?



Oh no his glasses have anime fog, HE HAD ULTERIOR MOTIVES!!!! puke



The Chief sucks Danica’s dick. Honestly, I don’t really get why everyone is so impressed, all she really did was follow a trail of breadcrumbs and everyone’s acting like she’s Ghandi or something. And come on, all of a sudden the Zicuri want to join the federation? Name me ONE thing she did that caused that.



It’s too much for her and she has a sad.



She has a conversation with T-O. M., who she dubs Old Tom, in the second (and final) time she exercises her “names everything!!!!” trait. And this one was already half done for her.



They talk about the gate she opened, and how it’s not the only one, setting up a long term plot about searching out other gates.*

* No new gates are ever seen in the comic after the ones in this chapter



And here we see the gate (it’s the one Danica went through after getting the last key, which transported her to Zicuri Ro, if you’ve forgotten).

It’s… Person sized? Seems a bit useless, wouldn’t you want a gate that can transport spaceships?



Oh… So the Traveler is not a threat. Well, there I go, getting my hopes up. I should know better.

If you're curious what the Traveler is, it's intentionally left vague because Mookie loves stupid cliffhangers, and it's explained next issue.



It turns out PSY-OPS GUY DID A MIND TRICK! He was testing her the whole time, because he’s a badass bigbrain psychologist and everyone is putty in his hands!



Danica is mad about this…



WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED! It was a DOUBLE MIND TRICK, and he was DOUBLE TESTING HER the whole time, and she actually IS totally ready!

Again, I want to reiterate, I loving hate this poo poo.


The issue ends with several pages of anti-humor. Read at your own risk. I got 1 page in and had to stop.











Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Aug 24, 2020

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


I'll just say what everyone's already thinking.



Piss Cop

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Rotten Red Rod posted:

The Chief sucks Danica’s dick. Honestly, I don’t really get why everyone is so impressed, all she really did was follow a trail of breadcrumbs and everyone’s acting like she’s Ghandi or something. And come on, all of a sudden the Zicuri want to join the federation? Name me ONE thing she did that caused that.

She showed up. Yeah that's dumb but that's it. They were waiting for a star powered sentinel to show up; and when one finally shows up it's part of this federation thing they didn't pay attention to before but now they're interested in it because it has a star powered sentinel.

All of Mookie's aliens are incredibly single-minded. There's one thing they care about and that's it. The purple guys care about being Prohibition-era gangsters in spaaaaace, the green guys care about dancing, the squid guys care about hugs, the red panda guys care about selfies, and the burning sands guy care about star powered sentinels.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Cat Mattress posted:

She showed up.

This is the sole defining trait of every one of Mookie's heroes. They exist, therefor the universe bends over backwards to make them special.

Kinda like how Snout's supposed trait is "curiosity" even though he's shown no sign of it beyond a willingness to drink things without reading what they are.

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Aug 10, 2020

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

the art is like if David Baldeon was bad

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!
It's fitting that the only obstacle Danica's faced so far was completely manufactured. I don't think she'll ever face an actual threat in this comic, I'd be shocked if she frowned.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Star Power is like watching a space combat-focused episode of Star Trek where the shields never drop below 40%

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Alaois posted:

the art is like if David Baldeon was bad

On that note, don't make the mistake I did and look at Garth Graham's Twitter. Dude does a lot of porn commissions - I wouldn't be surprised if he's making more money from that than Star Power. In fact his most recent tweet is an image of literal hardcore loving.

My stance on the art is... It's fine. Backgrounds can be a bit sparse, and there were some dodgy faces early on, but it works for a superhero comic, and I do actually like some of the alien designs. I'm quite fond of Muscle Lizard and like how expressive he is (although obviously not enough to remember his name).

Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Aug 10, 2020

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

1: good for him, porn commissions make a lot of money and I hope he charges fairly for them. He is, despite all this, a pretty solid artist and a solid style mixed with a good work ethic and stable prices makes for a good job 'cuz it ain't easy being an artist.

2: man that sure explains where Mookie found him from huh.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Yeah I'm cool with porn. Just... Don't go to his Twitter if you're not prepared for that.

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


The art is pretty fine. I mean there's definitely better out there, but I've also seen plenty of published print comics with worse. I also sort of dig the alien designs, even the tall purple people and the gumbie lizard imperials. Shame they weren't in a better comic.

Speaking of bad art:



Now, you may think that this is some homage to Walden or something, but given this blog post:

quote:


Emergency Camping Trip

2020.07.23

I’m taking an emergency camping trip next week.

It’s not going to be a deep-into-the-woods excursion. I’m not going to be isolated atop a mountain or beside a roaring river. I’m not even going very far. I’m going to a family-oriented campground in a town about thirty minutes from where I live. I’ll be renting a 12ft x 12ft single-room cabin beside numerous other campsites. This isn’t going to be fancy or even very scenic, but it’s pretty necessary at this point.

At four months in to this quarantine and counting, I’m at the end of my rope. I’ve run out of creative ways to entertain my five year old son, and I find myself snapping at him at the slightest provocation, or in worse cases no provocation at all. All our avenues of “escape,” from my backyard (which is falling into disrepair) to the usual routes where we take our walks, fill me with disdain. My wife tells me she’s “afraid to come home from work to find me in a state of aggravation.”

For lack of a better phrase, I need to get the gently caress out of here.

Conventions provided time away I didn’t know I needed. Normally, I get to leave my house for a few days and “reset my system.” By the time I’m halfway through a convention weekend I’m missing my son and eager to get back to being a dad. Those weekends have all been canceled this year, so I’ve not had any opportunities to reset my system. Next week’s camping trip is genuinely an emergency solution to my increasingly frequent bad moods.

I don’t plan on doing anything or talking to anyone. I might bring a book or two, maybe a notebook to write in. I’m eager to go away for a few days, and judging by the state of things around here I think everyone will be happy to be away from me for those few days as well.

I feel like him going to a cottage just derailed the story in his brain.

Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Aug 10, 2020

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Everyone ready for a new issue? No? Well too bad.

Chapter 4.1



Definitely read this as PISS COP while scrolling. The yellow background doesn't help.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

The Little Death posted:

I feel like him going to a cottage just derailed the story in his brain.

This "story" has been nothing but one long derail

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

That cabin's perspective is all hosed up

The story is going nowhere

Ink Witch and other guy are being slowly tortured and murdered and Snout is reading a book somewhere

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa
It really is loving breathtaking how completely he's outdone Dominic Deegan with this.
Like I said - and I stand by that I was right at the time - that Dominic Deegan was the nadir of human creative endeavor, but this is just some next level poo poo. Over a year. How many pages and words and images and he's said literally nothing.

What is the plot of this comic? At least in Dominic Deegan things *happened*. This isn't sound and fury signifying nothing, it's silence and boredom signifying nothing.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

he's said plenty, Snout just can't hear it because he's deaf :haw:

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

It really is loving breathtaking how completely he's outdone Dominic Deegan with this.
Like I said - and I stand by that I was right at the time - that Dominic Deegan was the nadir of human creative endeavor, but this is just some next level poo poo. Over a year. How many pages and words and images and he's said literally nothing.

What is the plot of this comic? At least in Dominic Deegan things *happened*. This isn't sound and fury signifying nothing, it's silence and boredom signifying nothing.

Seeing Star Power has really reminded me of how his wheelhouse is really just exposition. Just having characters spout tons and tons of words, all the time. So like, on the one hand, it's very insightful for him to realize that and challenge himself with writing a comic without so much dialog. And he's doing it! Compared to Deegan and Star Power, this series is very light on words, cheats with the Ink Witch aside.

But also, he is definitely failing that challenge he set for himself. This is way less compelling than even his old, bad comic was. The dude is just not a visual storyteller, without his crutch he is just crawling painfully across the floor, and it is torture to watch.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

The Little Death posted:

Now, you may think that this is some homage to Walden or something, but given this blog post:


I feel like him going to a cottage just derailed the story in his brain.

I know that quarantine isn't easy for a lot of people but this seems a bit of an overreaction doesn't it? Maybe he's just being melodramatic but him describing himself as shouting at his son and his wife being afraid of what she'll come home to find him like seems a little much.

Is he trying to ARG us with an homage to The Shining?




Joke answer: a COMIC ENTIRELY WITHOUT DIALOGUE has robbed him of his one favourite pastime: text dumps. Without his outlet to spew words aplenty he has gotten stifled and angry.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


He has talked about missing the con circuit alot in previous posts. Without judgement, I do think Mookie shows often that he is somewhat insecure, and I think he is missing the camaraderie of cons that he used to go to every year, from way before he got married. This is a big disruption in his life, and his wife is a healtcare worker so the stress in the house is probably not small. And add to this starpower ending (which despite all the claims of amicability, I think was interesting in the wording Garth used in what appears to be a now deleted blog post. Garth was very, man this isn't worth my time, whereas Mookie was much more mournful). I sort of don't begrudge him having some problems, it's an unprecendented time.

Also this last line isn't meant to be shady to anyone in this thread, but i've always felt that Mookie displays the old straight dude arrested development. Not that he's a manchild, but Mookie does give the impression in things like his twitter that he is still immature in his reactions to negative feelings, as can often be the case when a dude who has never had to seriously contend with negative emotions (and Mookie has never worked an office job or other place where you might get emotional intelligence, and obviously he's in the US where emotional intelligence is basically actively discouraged in men especially) or deal with serious feelings of inadequacy. I'm sure he's feeling a big loss of power, autonomy and validation with all the changes going on in his life right now. I give him props for recognizing that his behavior is a problem and listening to his partner, because I know dudes who would double down on poo poo if their spouse told them something like that.

Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Aug 10, 2020

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
All art and no dialog makes Legacy a dull comic

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


Also those vines are obviously the necromantic blight, and this cabin I want to say belongs to fat dude cum skeleton Rillian.

That is my prediction.

Libra
Jan 5, 2011

Fat Dude Cum Skeleton is a much better indie comic.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Tesseraction posted:

I know that quarantine isn't easy for a lot of people but this seems a bit of an overreaction doesn't it? Maybe he's just being melodramatic but him describing himself as shouting at his son and his wife being afraid of what she'll come home to find him like seems a little much.

Unfortunately, it's not an overreaction. Cabin fever is not just a pop culture invention. There's been a dramatic increase in domestic abuse in quarantined areas.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/02/world/europe/uk-coronavirus-domestic-abuse.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-53014211/coronavirus-domestic-violence-increases-globally-during-lockdown

So yeah, it's good on Mookie to take steps to avoid becoming part of these statistics.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Rotten Red Rod posted:

On that note, don't make the mistake I did and look at Garth Graham's Twitter. Dude does a lot of porn commissions - I wouldn't be surprised if he's making more money from that than Star Power. In fact his most recent tweet is an image of literal hardcore loving

Delectable fruit for our eye organs :eyepop:

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Chapter 4.2

I’m skipping over a LOT of pages in this chapter by the way, not a lot happens.



Who hates this? WE DO



There’s some exposition about the Traveler, which sounds like it’s some kind of exploration ship Danica will be assigned to, and may be on for years. Purple Lady reacts to this like a Mookie toddler.



i guess they are like sisters now



pppphhhhhttt hahahahhaha

This comic has some pretty decent spaceship designs, and this… This ain’t one of them



Giant infodump about the Traveler. TL:DR: it’s the federation’s flagship for exploring outside of the jump gate network.

So… Do they one have ONE? Again, this is a Federation of a thousand worlds, presumably with millions to billions of beings on each world, and they have ONE exploration ship? They say on this page the “Federation has always relied on the Traveler” for exploration outside of the network, so presumably there’s no others.



Danica listens to a message from her dad, but declines to hear from her mom. This sets up potential character development later* to learn what happened with her relationship with her mother.

* it never meaningfully comes up again before the comic ends



ok let’s have someone unqualified AND unprepared interview him, great idea



Here’s the captain of the Traveler. She first showed up back in chapter 1, debriefing Danica after the whole Blue Lady thing, and has been promoted since then.



“Never cease to amaze me” seems to be a phrase Mookie can’t stop going to



Mitch suddenly jumps back to life, and he’s transmitting a distress call – conveniently in the system they’re going to, and involving a jump gate.



The captain sends Danica out on her own, as she can get there to help a LOT faster.



We find out why Burke joined the Void Angels – he was kicked out of Galactic Defense and he wanted to continue being a pilot.



Suddenly they are friends! The chief’s stupid plan worked.



Old Tom and Beena get on famously until her reveals he has orders to kill Danica. Love and compassion, amiright?



Danica gets to the planet, and it’s…. Elves?



lol



I kinda hate how you can see this guy’s skull. That seems gratuitous.



good job idiot



And of course this is the one gate that connects to the one other one they’ve found because why wouldn’t it be

The chapter ends with some logs from the captain of the Traveler. They’re pretty boring, but you do learn that the masthead on the ship is based on whatever race the captain is, which is pretty funny considering it’s literally shoving its tits out into the great unknown.









Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Aug 24, 2020

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

that spaceship looks like a drill chuck. One of those two is into DIY.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Alright, who's ready for some loving Eldar?

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Kavak posted:

Alright, who's ready for some loving Eldar?

Man it'd be so much better if he did take some cues from WH40K. Nope, these are just some loving elves

I'm not even kidding. Here, a quick preview

Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Aug 10, 2020

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Rotten Red Rod posted:

Man it'd be so much better if he did take some queues from WH40K. Nope, these are just some loving elves

I'm not even kidding. Here, a quick preview



So the gate's just there and they're set dressing. Mookie denies me even something to hate.

EDIT: In all of this I just remembered he never adresses the situation with her mother. No wonder Garth wanted to quit, Mookie's been writing filler for a decade.

Kavak fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Aug 10, 2020

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

The Little Death posted:

Now, you may think that this is some homage to Walden or something, but given this blog post:


I feel like him going to a cottage just derailed the story in his brain.

"No honey, I'm just going to a cabin in the woods all by myself for, uh, my mental health."

Dude is definitely cheating on his wife.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


If Ink Witch is suddenly evil then maybe but otherwise I think you're reading too much into it. Like The Little Death said the lack of con stuff on top of the lockdown is probably fraying him.

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Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Kavak posted:

So the gate's just there and they're set dressing. Mookie denies me even something to hate.


It's kinda the other way around. You'll see.

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