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forget it, it's Paul
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Aug 10, 2020 15:36
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NewFatMike posted:I will lose my mind if Raja Koduri becomes Intel CEO. That would be such a loving trip. "We're happy to announce the first CPU with LEDs built in to the core itself! IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PACKAGING, PEOPLE!"
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Aug 10, 2020 15:43
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Ok Comboomer posted:If we’re thinking about the same wild Ampere claims, those were debunked. MLID isn't so much a leaker but more of an outside 'analyst's who makes use of public information to make predictions about coming trends. His steady growth over the past year means that he has potential legitimate sources reaching out to him but it seems like he makes a decent effort to sort through the worst of the misinformation. His presentation on leaks is more of a 'this is what I have been told, here is what I think about it' rather than Adored's approach of 'this is what I have been told, run wild!' Ad for Intel, isnt this just fundamentally a node issue where 10nm fell flat on its face? Would we be where we are are at if Icelake Desktop launched in June 2019?
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Aug 10, 2020 15:43
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Whatever the case, I've always been of the opinion that C-level executives are not interchangable. Finance stays in their lane, otherwise they just cut costs they don't understand. Marketing stays in their lane, or everything becomes spin. Unless the executive has spent any time actually making the thing that the company's known for, they're doomed to fail.  which one was Otellini?DrDork posted:And that's again assuming ARM chips with performance that don't exist (except Apple). WhyteRyce posted:If I had a nickel for everytime I had to sit through a "this is going to be different and here is why" or "this is a culture change" reorg presentation priznat posted:Maybe hackers could do us a favour and improve the ITP suite
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Aug 10, 2020 17:21
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JawnV6 posted:a New Core without All The Bullshit I laughed really hard at this
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Aug 10, 2020 17:24
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JawnV6 posted:hey you know who had an amazing ARM solution like 15 years ago those nice XScale folks where'd they go Intel sold them to Marvell in 2006ish. So, yeah.
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Aug 10, 2020 17:29
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The amount validation gets poo poo on when they find a bug about it not being "valid" and no user would ever hit this and stop wasting people's time later followed by the amount of poo poo validation gets when there is an escape and you need to think of more involved scenarios is very disheartening
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Aug 10, 2020 17:30
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WhyteRyce posted:The amount validation gets poo poo on when they find a bug about it not being "valid" and no user would ever hit this and stop wasting people's time later followed by the amount of poo poo validation gets when there is an escape and you need to think of more involved scenarios is very disheartening Yeah especially with time crunches it always seems like Validation is what is expected to finish in whatever time the parts or firmware release is ready and the communicated release date to the customer. “All your regressions must complete in a week!” And then “Why did you not see this artifact that happens after 30 thousand iterations!!”
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Aug 10, 2020 18:11
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Department head: "I'm not giving you more resources and we can't afford to slip the schedule so you have to find a way to work smarter and find ways to eliminate redundant or low value testing" .... Department head: "All these customers are mad at us for all these bugs and don't trust our quality I never told you guys to sacrifice quality" Me: "Bitch you literally just made me sit through some half-day training on the program management triangle"
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Aug 10, 2020 18:36
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WhyteRyce posted:Me: "Bitch you literally just made me sit through some half-day training on the program management triangle" Department Head: "Yes, but in this company we have chosen to reinterpret the iron triangle as meaning that we need to be able to push in all three directions at once, and you're salaried so the only thing that may have to flex is how much time you get to spend at home each day."
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Aug 10, 2020 18:55
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I just did an hour of US export compliance training despite not being in the US. Bonus: now I can defer any requests from the shanghai office to ensure they have all their ECP paperwork in order.
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Aug 10, 2020 19:46
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DrDork posted:"you're salaried so the only thing that may have to flex is how much time you get to spend at home each day." It's amazing how true this is across the entire consulting engineering industry also.
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Aug 10, 2020 21:09
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Paul MaudDib posted:Hmm? I never said I watched the video. If you bothered to read my posts instead of frantically hammering "reply" the second you see my name, you'd notice that it started with "The gotcha with all of these videos is that..." and referenced prices/components that were not related to this particular guy's build. It's pretty clear I'm speaking in generalities and if you didn't pick up on that it's really on you. Oh my god please stop.
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Aug 11, 2020 03:17
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LRADIKAL posted:Stop it. As usual I can't tell if you are trolling or are really just that silly of a person. You lied about watching the video and dissembled for hundreds of words and you're acting like you don't even understand what happened. Take a break, it's so annoying when you reflexivly dig your heels in like this. You think everyone is so stupid that this poo poo works? Oh my god please stop.
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Aug 11, 2020 03:17
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Paul MaudDib posted:some people are just crazy obsessed with @'ing me, it's really kind of funny (insert replies that will undoubtedly try to pick me apart word by word to prove I'm totally wrong about... something?) My personal favorite is dpreview that used to have pages and pages of words for contents are now shifting towards a single 30 minute video. Thankfully all I want is the ISO/dynamic range IQ test which is still in a page format where you can change out the camera models for comparison. I get that they are trying to make money through youtube because ads are dead. So now I've learned to at least skim the videos by spamming mouse clicks over the time bar to check out the contents. The 30 minute video can be 'viewed' in about 2 minutes and you can even have the video paused!
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Aug 11, 2020 03:41
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It's very annoying how lots of guides to do anything now are all YouTube poo poo. It's easier to host a 10 minutes 4k video that it is to find find place to throw up 4 pictures Also I hate that that video is 10 minutes to describe a 15 second process
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Aug 11, 2020 03:45
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This is why I'm glad I don't work in hardware anymore. At least our excuse in the Infra/Platform world is, "we didn't think of that, we'll push a patch next week/next month/next quarter." Any fuckup in silicon takes uh, substantially longer to fix and revalidate.
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Aug 11, 2020 03:54
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Crunchy Black posted:This is why I'm glad I don't work in hardware anymore. At least our excuse in the Infra/Platform world is, "we didn't think of that, we'll push a patch next week/next month/next quarter." Any fuckup in silicon takes uh, substantially longer to fix and revalidate. Yeah there are lots of other benefits too like much more modern software tools, quicker project churn which allows you to add enhancements and possibly remove legacy jank, and of course way more companies doing software so a lot more career options. On the other hand, finding a showstopping silicon bug either in emulation or revA silicon 
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Aug 11, 2020 04:08
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Paul MaudDib posted:Rocket Lake is supposedly end of the year/start of next year. Who knows with covid but so far they haven’t said anything about delays, and if so I’d expect “delays” to be like Q2 2021 and not like “end of 2021/early 2022”. Ouch. There's goes the 2020 Holiday Upgrade PC Build Season.
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Aug 11, 2020 04:40
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Cygni posted:I mean the first (and arguably most important) Xe implementation is launching September 2nd so yeah. The Xe is cancelled!!! rumor is horseshit. Even if you give the rumor mongering dorks the benefit of the doubt and say "they MEANT to say discrete Xe", thats also not gonna happen. Intel has firm orders for Xe HPC and already booked the TSMC capacity for it, so i firmly doubt its anywhere near cancelled. Yeah I am guessing Xe will drop dead as a consumer discrete graphics card. Intel will get its money's worth (probably) in improved integrated graphics and HPC sales. I'll be shocked and amazed if they deliver a competitive high end gaming card.
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Aug 11, 2020 05:47
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FuturePastNow posted:I'll be shocked and amazed if they deliver a competitive high end gaming card. They absolutely won't, but they also don't really need to in order to make things interesting--I mean, poo poo, AMD hasn't had a compelling "high end" card in what, a decade? If they could make a card that could either compete with NVidia's xx50 in price or power usage (for laptops), they'd likely sell enough to justify further investment.
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Aug 11, 2020 12:49
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AMD seems perfectly content to offer choices in the low-mid range, they have been that way since the 6950. It's where the money is at.
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Aug 11, 2020 12:59
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:AMD seems perfectly content to offer choices in the low-mid range, they have been that way since the 6950. It's where the money is at. They’ve done some absolutely moronic cards like the 295x2 for the high end. You can still get mileage out of a GeForce 970 now, not so much with the 295x2 because it turns out going and making a built in dual GPU nearly a decade after dual GPU basically died in the crib is a terrible idea. The last AMD card I bought was a low-end one. I don’t think I’ve bought one of their high end ones since the Radeon 9800.
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Aug 11, 2020 14:01
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I had a string of AMD GPUs from the 9700, back to Nvidia, 5850, 6970, R9 290, and then to Nvidia for a 1070. I'm a little locked in since I have a true GSync monitor. That's ok, I usually buy about every other generation.
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Aug 11, 2020 14:30
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Has there been any good intel on how good the tiger lake chips are for laptops? Figured I'd wait until those were announced in September before getting a new laptop but uncertain if they're supposed to be much of an improvement.
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Aug 11, 2020 14:36
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evilweasel posted:Has there been any good intel on how good the tiger lake chips are for laptops? Figured I'd wait until those were announced in September before getting a new laptop but uncertain if they're supposed to be much of an improvement. Unless you're doing micro-benchmarks, you won't notice anything - and perhaps not even then.
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Aug 11, 2020 16:32
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D. Ebdrup posted:Every improvement in performance from here-on out and until some major breakthrough has been made will be incremental - something that has been true for more than a decade already. that's true with raw processor power, but has not been true with graphics and power use which are rather relevant to laptops
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Aug 11, 2020 17:03
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Tiger Lake looks like a big step up in GPU performance over Ice Lake and has lots of cool new things supported, like USB4/TB4/LPDDR5. I dunno if it will be a REVOLUTION!!! but you can tell it’s probably going to get wider adoption than Ice Lake just based on all the laptop sales that are running now to clear inventory. Also the 8 core part doesn’t launch until 2021 according to rumor, so that probably means the hot as hell 14nm skylake parts are gonna stay in gamer and high end laptops for a few more months, lol
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Aug 11, 2020 17:20
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evilweasel posted:Has there been any good intel on how good the tiger lake chips are for laptops? Figured I'd wait until those were announced in September before getting a new laptop but uncertain if they're supposed to be much of an improvement. if on-board graphics is important to your use-case and for whatever reason you don't want to get an AMD-based laptop, and you're okay with waiting for Tiger Lake, then I would wait - what little we've seen of Xe indicates that it's a significant step up from Intel UHD graphics, and is at the very least competitive with Ryzen's on-board graphics
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Aug 12, 2020 04:56
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Raja as CEO would be a pretty bad thing for Intel. Also, Murthy hated Keller? I've never heard of anyone disliking Jim Keller. I'd prefer all those rumors be false.
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Aug 12, 2020 15:22
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GRECOROMANGRABASS posted:Raja as CEO would be a pretty bad thing for Intel. Also, Murthy hated Keller? I've never heard of anyone disliking Jim Keller. I'd prefer all those rumors be false. Just think of the shrouds he could build with all of Intel's resources!
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Aug 12, 2020 16:35
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I am disappointed in the current* state of Intel integrated graphics. I wasn't expecting miracles with this laptop (Kaby Lake i5 , UHD 620), but I thought some older stuff would play decently. Diablo 3 doesn't hit a consistent 30fps even at 720p. And I hover around 20 with Titan Quest AE at minimum details 1080p. Were my expectations unreasonable? (*this is a 1.5 year old laptop) e:it has 8gigs of memory
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Aug 12, 2020 18:07
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Rinkles posted:I am disappointed in the current* state of Intel integrated graphics. I wasn't expecting miracles with this laptop (Kaby Lake i5 , UHD 620), but I thought some older stuff would play decently. Diablo 3 doesn't hit a consistent 30fps even at 720p. And I hover around 20 with Titan Quest AE at minimum details 1080p. Were my expectations unreasonable? I bet that's a single stick so it's running in single channel mode.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:49
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Arzachel posted:I bet that's a single stick so it's running in single channel mode. It is. It has a spare slot. That would help significantly?
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Aug 12, 2020 19:53
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Yes. Not just gaming, but normal use, as well. An 8GB DDR4 SODIMM module is like $30, so it's a super cheap upgrade.
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Aug 12, 2020 19:55
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Going dual channel on the RAM isn't going to make that big a difference. The intel 620 is more or less a rebrand of the intel 520 iirc and that came out in 2015. I don't think intel gpus actually advanced any until last year maybe?
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Aug 12, 2020 20:31
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it makes a hell of a difference to the iGPU, it uses system ram as vram.
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Aug 12, 2020 20:57
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:it makes a hell of a difference to the iGPU, it uses system ram as vram. This. And your GPU is being leveraged on every website, in Discord, Steam, Office.... every app has hardware acceleration now. Dual Channel makes sense to do.
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Aug 12, 2020 21:19
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CFox posted:Going dual channel on the RAM isn't going to make that big a difference. The intel 620 is more or less a rebrand of the intel 520 iirc and that came out in 2015. I don't think intel gpus actually advanced any until last year maybe? While sometimes you won't get all that much of a benefit (Civ6, for example), this guy saw improvements of anywhere between 10% and 30% across a range of games. If the base stick is also replaceable (vs soldered on), he saw improvements of up to 80% by dropping in faster RAM. https://mattgadient.com/faster-gaming-on-intel-uhd-620-kaby-lake-r-by-upgrading-ram/ I mean, it's not going to turn it into something that can compete with even a 1050, but turning 30FPS into 40FPS is a nice bump for $30.
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Aug 12, 2020 21:29
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DrDork posted:While sometimes you won't get all that much of a benefit (Civ6, for example), this guy saw improvements of anywhere between 10% and 30% across a range of games. If the base stick is also replaceable (vs soldered on), he saw improvements of up to 80% by dropping in faster RAM. I'll be happy if it gets me 30fps @ 1080p in D3. As is, it'll get there sometimes, but with regular massive lag spikes (in the performance sense).
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Aug 12, 2020 21:33
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