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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/tcberenson/status/1293284748048183297?s=19

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Dunite posted:

Is there any chance people have been holding onto hit pieces for Kamala until she got the nomination?

How can we expect any systemic change when the top cop is in office?

I think most of the torpedoes were launched already during the primary to sink her top ticket bid. "Copmala" has been around for a while now and can probably be easily solved with her going "Look, I was younger then and doing what I thought was best for California at the time, but I promise to do better for America as vice president yadda yadda." and that'll probably fly the the non-brainposioned folks outside of the D&D snowglobe.

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Solaris 2.0 posted:

I was hoping it would be Rice and not KamaCop but I'm also not surprised. Oh well no one will care in 24 hours when Trump burps up a racial slur at a reporter again and announces his entire staff will take the Russian Vaccine.

I mean no matter who he picked, people would get upset. I’m not sure what people were expecting.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

I think she will decimate Pence

I do not recall Kamala decimating anybody in the debates, other than the joke who is now her boss.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

nine-gear crow posted:

I think most of the torpedoes were launched already during the primary to sink her top ticket bid. "Copmala" has been around for a while now and can probably be easily solved with her going "Look, I was younger then and doing what I thought was best for California at the time, but I promise to do better for America as vice president yadda yadda." and that'll probably fly the the non-brainposioned folks outside of the D&D snowglobe.

I've already been seeing a lot of articles the past day or two that were basically "look she had to be incredibly tough on minor crimes or no one would take her seriously"

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

I guess Biden doesn't have to sell Kamala to potential voters, Trump's campaign will do it for them.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

So trumps opening shot at Kamala is already a miss. I guess we can see why she was selected.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



She fights for the little guy, that guy being Steve Mnuchin

Also her supporters are insane and they get very little attention

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

OctaMurk posted:

I do not recall Kamala decimating anybody in the debates, other than the joke who is now her boss.

She literally appeared to be high and/or just really goofy on the later debates. I'm not sure what was up with that, but it was noticeable.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

That is fairly weak. Seems like the Trump campaign didn't really have anything, and was hoping it was Rice so they could wheel out Benghazi.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Cervix-A-Lot posted:

Quick you loving nerds, tell me why this is bad

She was a cop

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

OctaMurk posted:

I do not recall Kamala decimating anybody in the debates, other than the joke who is now her boss.

She took a loving chainsaw to :kav: during his confirmation hearings, for whatever that's worth...

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Katrina Pierson is a nobody. Proper team has yet to respond.

Edmund Lava
Sep 8, 2004

Hey, I'm from Brooklyn. I'm going to call myself Mr. Friendly.


Stop trying to get me to like Kamala

Carew
Jun 22, 2006
Isn't part of the reason why Mnuchin is where he is because of loving Kamala Harris

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Meatball posted:

He's going to declare victory election night and sue to have any uncounted ballots tossed.

While the suit works his way through the courts, the ballots will come in and the vote tally including emails ins will say that he lost.

Queue another 5-4 court decision that not only gives Republicans the White House again but creates a federal ruling that ensures that all ballots, mailed or otherwise need to be in on election day to be counted.

We live in hellworld, what else would possibly happen?

For real though, this is what will happen.

eggyolk
Nov 8, 2007


It's going to be baseless fear mongering all the way down, isn't it?

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

OctaMurk posted:

I do not recall Kamala decimating anybody in the debates, other than the joke who is now her boss.

The debates overall were a joke due to the number of candidates per night.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Nonsense posted:

Katrina Pierson is a nobody. Proper team has yet to respond.

yea katrina was a b-lister in 2016 who added nothing to the campaign and now she's even less used, even then calling her out on her 180 on biden's racism and calling her his 'political living will' are gonna be solid inroads.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

The Glumslinger posted:

My very lib family is excited for Kamala, so whatever

Mine, too. My sister is especially excited for whatever reason. They're white, middle class, and even live in a swing state so yeah the calculus here is pretty clear.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/LilaGraceRose/status/1293286373831532545?s=19

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Cervix-A-Lot posted:

Quick you loving nerds, tell me why this is bad

Kamala is a bad pick because she is a former AG (a.k.a. top cop) for California and has a record of being overly tough on crime. Not a good move in this, of all years. Her record as California DA and AG is very mixed, with some good stuff (lowered recidivism rates while DA) on top of bad things (which I don't know a lot about admittedly). As a senator she also voted against Bernie Sanders' amendment to reduce our stupidly huge military budget.

On the other hand she is

-Black
-A Woman
-Has cosponsored progressive bills on expanded UI including Senator Markey's ambitious $2,000 a month until the pandemic ends retroactive to March proposal, and I recall there being some bills she and Ro Khanna also proposed together earlier in the year.
-sued several oil companies while AG for inadequate environmental standards
-took down the creep that ran Backpage
-While part of Senate Judiciary Committee, reduced AG Barr to a stuttering mess.

nine-gear crow posted:

She took a loving chainsaw to :kav: during his confirmation hearings, for whatever that's worth...


In reality the first two are the big reasons for her selection by Biden. I still think it's not the best choice as her tough-on-crime stance was what literally killed her Presidential ambitions, but eh.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Carew posted:

Isn't part of the reason why Mnuchin is where he is because of loving Kamala Harris

not 'part of', literally the entire reason, she didn't prosecute him

PenguinKnight
Apr 6, 2009

Cervix-A-Lot posted:

Quick you loving nerds, tell me why this is bad

For starters, she called herself America’s top cop when the nearly every state has had some kind of protest over police brutality within the past 3 months, she actively fought to deny trans-related health care to at least one trans prisoner. Her student loan debt relief idea was filled with so many conditionals it was worthless.

Oh yeah she also declined to go after mnuchin post 2008 meltdown

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.




Now I'm just picturing him bringing Mother onto the podium with him and having her stand to his side but directly between them to prevent unwanted eye contact

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



nine-gear crow posted:

She took a loving chainsaw to :kav: during his confirmation hearings, for whatever that's worth...

She absolutely did not. She was one of the worst D senators in those hearings.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Alright alright, I guess I will vote for her then

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

I believe in all the ways that they say you can lose your body
Fallen Rib

All of this sounds awesome. Glad Biden and Harris are going to do all these things they are being accused of doing.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Shammypants posted:

So trumps opening shot at Kamala is already a miss. I guess we can see why she was selected.

exactly. with other trump has more ammo, with harris, he has ammo, but none that he will use it because he doesn't give a poo poo and is a moron and even if he does, alot of folks wont care because he has loving fed black bagging people as plague spreads.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

Man I don't know guys, Harris is sounding pretty good now.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

sexpig by night posted:

yea katrina was a b-lister in 2016 who added nothing to the campaign and now she's even less used, even then calling her out on her 180 on biden's racism and calling her his 'political living will' are gonna be solid inroads.

Her big claim to fame in 2016 was getting roundly mocked for appearing in interviews with major networks wearing a necklace of goldplated .50 cal bullets.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

Carew posted:

Isn't part of the reason why Mnuchin is where he is because of loving Kamala Harris

Yep!

quote:

FORMER CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY General Kamala Harris on Wednesday vaguely acknowledged The Intercept’s report about her declining to prosecute Steven Mnuchin’s OneWest Bank for foreclosure violations in 2013, but offered no explanation.

“It’s a decision my office made,” she said, in response to questions from The Hill shortly after being sworn in as California’s newest U.S. senator.

“We went and we followed the facts and the evidence, and it’s a decision my office made,” Harris said. “We pursued it just like any other case. We go and we take a case wherever the facts lead us.”

So that clears everything up.

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

Cervix-A-Lot posted:

Quick you loving nerds, tell me why this is bad

WEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLL

-She supported a law that forces schools to turn undocumented students over to ICE, separating them from their parents. source:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-san-francisco-immigrant-policy_n_5c758153e4b0bf166204509b

-Supported and funded a bill that would criminalize truancy, disproportionately harming single parent households, the poor, families of color and homeless mothers. source:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-truancy-arrests-2020-progressive-prosecutor_n_5c995789e4b0f7bfa1b57d2e

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1089974205284798464?s=20

-Declined to prosecute Steven Mnuchin after his bank’s predatory lending and foreclosure fraud broke the law “over a thousand” times and ruined the lives of thousands of homeowners. source:

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/03/treasury-nominee-steve-mnuchins-bank-accused-of-widespread-misconduct-in-leaked-memo/

...he later donated to her campaign source:

https://www.rollcall.com/2017/02/14/harris-was-only-2016-senate-democratic-candidate-to-get-cash-from-mnuchin/

-She spent years jailing disproportionately black nonviolent cannabis users source:

https://afropunk.com/2019/01/kamala-harris-has-been-tough-on-black-people-not-crime/

she then tried to pander by admitting to smoking herself despite prosecuting others source:

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/kamala-harriss-snoopgate-is-what-a-political-marijuana-controversy-looks-like-in-2019/

-Stopped the release of a man serving 27 years-to-life after being wrongfully convicted of possession of a knife under the three-strikes law she supported. source:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general

...and when civil rights groups and nearly 100,000 petition signatures got him released after 14 years she took him back to court again for a crime he didn’t commit source:

https://www.scpr.org/news/2013/07/31/38460/san-fernando-valley-man-s-freedom-hangs-in-appeal/

-Opposed reforming California’s three-strikes law, which is the only one in the country to impose life sentences for minor felonies and incarcerates black people at 12x the rate as white people source:

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/reforming-three-strikes/

...she opposed the law THREE different times source:

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/reforming-three-strikes/

-Protected serial child rapists by refusing to prosecute in the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal source:

https://theintercept.com/2019/06/09/kamala-harris-san-francisco-catholic-church-child-abuse/

-Tried to deny a transgender inmate healthcare and endangered trans women by forcing them into mens prisons. source:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/05/05/harris-renews-effort-to-block-gender-reassignment-for-trans-inmate/

-Stood by silently as $730 million was spent on moving inmates to for-profit private prisons source:


https://www.mercurynews.com/2013/08/29/mercury-news-editorial-kamala-harris-needs-to-tackle-prison-standoff/

-Voted two different times to block federal funding for abortions source:
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2019/06/06/guess-who-else-voted-against-federal-funding-for-abortion-443667

-She supports Trump escalating war in Syria source:

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/05/24/bipartisan-war-congress-trump-syria-iran-russia-hezbollah/

-Voted to give Trump increased military spending source:

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/23430/61033/120012/national-defense-authorization-act-for-fiscal-year-2018#.XQQgLtNKifQ

...she did that TWICE:

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bil...19#.XQQhV9NKifQ

-Mocks the activist call to “build more schools, less jails” source:

https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1090067362907340800?s=20

-Accepted thousands of dollars of campaign funds from Donald and Ivanka Trump multiple times source:

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article226975319.html

-Opposed legalization of sex work source:


http://www.laweekly.com/a-new-movement-to-legalize-prostitution-faces-a-fight-with-kamala-harris/

...endangered sex workers source:


https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a52334/backpage-shutdown-make-sex-workers-less-safe/

...and oversaw people being charged for prostitution without even agreeing to sex source:


https://archives.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/stung/Content?oid=2177526

-Refused to investigate Herbalife’s exploitation and fraud source:


https://freebeacon.com/politics/kamala-harris-accused-of-letting-company-exploiting-latinos-off-the-hook/

...and, conveniently enough, later received donations from people connected to the corporation source:


https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/kamala-harris/documents-show-san-diego-prosecutors-told-kamala-h/

-Refused to prosecute PG&E for its massive gas pipeline explosion source:


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/pge-california-politics.html

...and now its consultants are running her campaign source:


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/21/kamala-harris-2020-campaign-1116076

-Is a latecomer in endorsing Medicare for All and already appears to be backtracking on it source:


https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/29/politics/kamala-harris-medicare-for-all-eliminate-private-insurers-backlash/index.html

-Supports foreign right-wing influences Netanyahu and AIPAC


https://theintercept.com/2018/03/07/kamala-harris-israel-aipac/

-Systematically violated defendants’ civil and constitutional rights” in crime lab scandal source:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...9d15_story.html

-Co-sponsored the bill that let Trump impose sanctions on Iran source:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/722/cosponsors?searchResultViewType=expanded

...which violated the nuclear deal and lead to the currently rising tensions source:


https://archive.thinkprogress.org/media-outlets-lawmakers-us-violated-iran-nuclear-deal-5907a0e5743a/

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

Meatball posted:

Queue another 5-4 court decision that not only gives Republicans the White House again but creates a federal ruling that ensures that all ballots, mailed or otherwise need to be in on election day to be counted.

We live in hellworld, what else would possibly happen?

Most states already require that ballots must be received by election day, not post-marked by election day to be counted. Even without Trump meddling, and a fully functional post office, a huge chunk of votes were going to be tossed because people are morons who don't follow instructions.

Cervix-A-Lot
Sep 29, 2006
Cheeeeesy
You know being tough on crime is ok, the issue to not shoot everyone.

Sexual Aluminum
Jun 21, 2003

is made of candy
Soiled Meat
My moderate family is over the moon over Kamala being picked.

I’m not super keen on her but it’s nice to see a POC woman being given the nod.

bad boys for life
Jun 6, 2003

by sebmojo
Kamala is a trash person who has ruined countless lives and this will make voting for Biden a hell of a lot harder.

edit: Seriously this ticket is Trump/Pence vs Slightly Less Racist and Bad Trump + Cop who ruins lives

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Cervix-A-Lot posted:

You know being tough on crime is ok, the issue to not shoot everyone.

The problem of course is that in the US, "tough on crime" means perpetuating the prison-industrial complex and out-of-control rates of incarceration.

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that

Nonsense posted:

Katrina Pierson is a nobody. Proper team has yet to respond.

hahahahahahahahahahaha, there is an extremely specific reason why they had Katrina Pierson, a nobody, issue this first response.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Cervix-A-Lot posted:

Quick you loving nerds, tell me why this is bad

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/s...r%3D241lastpost

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