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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Pick posted:

Unwanted touching is not sexual assault. It's actually one of the reasons why I, as a woman, would like to see some of the older and more clear terminology employed. Biden himself admitted that his standards for personal space and touching needed to change, but that is not the same as saying her saying that he is guilty of or admitted guilt for rape.

Whether unwanted touching is sexual assault depends on where it occurs, and I've heard of Biden touching a pretty bad place.

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Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Sodomy Hussein posted:

He doesn't even need his campaign to do it, Greenwald will do it for him and they need merely retweet. I don't think anyone in the Trump campaign is literate to leftist thought.

The campaign was surely paying attention to all of the information out there during the primary.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

Macrame_God posted:

I know that. I was hoping that maybe he'd signal a willingness to cater to progressives with his pick. I'm getting real sick and tired of having to choose between crypto fascism and preserving the status quo. :sigh:

There's no reason to use a pick like this to cater to progressives because they're not going to vote for Trump. They are far more worried about reassuring centrists/suburbanites that are potential swing voters.

Judakel posted:

They absolutely are, and you can tell that is the implication from the context. They claim she embraced anti-police ideas so as to obfuscate her record as a prosecutor. I have no idea how you're this obnoxious when you clearly can't even read.

How is "embracing anti-police ideas" attacking her from the left? Want to take a third swing at this?

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Biden has never once really entertained shoring up the extreme left wing of the party except to do one better than Hillary and have an actual amicable relationship with Bernie. Trump is just going to run on Biden being the socialist antichrist and running that against Kamala makes as little sense as possible. Everyone's moderate (D) parents love Kamala. From a strategic standpoint it's a good pick. If you were hoping for an interesting pick, not really.

Man you could cut and paste this exact same paragraph in 2016 but replace Kamala with Tim Kaine.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

On some level, Biden does not believe this. Everything he has said, and the way he speaks about the black vote, tells me this. He might be in for a surprise come November.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

is the living sniper the one who was the kid or the weird groomer dude because this is key in which demographics they appeal to

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Derpies posted:

Man you could cut and paste this exact same paragraph in 2016 but replace Kamala with Tim Kaine.

https://twitter.com/OneDarkSeed/status/1293288435390779393?s=20

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Nucleic Acids posted:

No, I’d say it is.

Some guy touching my hair is obnoxious but it's not rape. The only reason to try to equate those things is to manipulate the experiences of women for personal political ends. No woman who has experience both would say that they are the same.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005



Jewel Repetition posted:

Or if the president is mentally incompetent, like Reagan, or Dubya, or Biden.

I don't think it's fair to call Dubya mentally incompetent.

Just incompetent.

Edit: I have long curly hair, and women come up and touch me all the time. It can be an invasion of privacy depending on the circumstances but I don't really mind it either. I'm also like Biden in that my standards for personal space can clash with other folks.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
he also raped a lady, so it's moot

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

Mat Cauthon posted:

Trump's campaign team seems too incompetent and/or self-interested in their own respective grifts to really take advantage of this but man it could end up a loving bloodbath. There are very few problems in the US today that Kamala Harris isn't negatively associated with.

Those problems aren't actually problems to Trump or his base, or even a lot of suburbanites/old people who shifted from Trump to Biden.

People act like Trump can say anything and everyone, not just his cult, will lap it up.

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007

Pick posted:

Some guy touching my hair is obnoxious but it's not rape. The only reason to try to equate those things is to manipulate the experiences of women for personal political ends. No woman who has experience both would say that they are the same.

Joe Biden has done way more than that though.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Pick posted:

Some guy touching my hair is obnoxious but it's not rape. The only reason to try to equate those things is to manipulate the experiences of women for personal political ends. No woman who has experience both would say that they are the same.
i would call one sexual assault if it is done with obvious sexual interest (and have you seen some of the looks biden is giving those ladies jesus), and the other rape. i am a woman who has experienced both. wanna try again champ or do rape victims only count if they agree with you about definitions

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013






Tim Kaine was never that smooth.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Xombie posted:

How is "embracing anti-police ideas" attacking her from the left? Want to take a third swing at this?

Maybe you'd like to take another swing at it: They are implying that her record as a prosecutor was too far right. Again, why can you not read?

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Judakel posted:

The campaign was surely paying attention to all of the information out there during the primary.

His "campaign" is not a strategic brain trust, it's just yes men and grifter moron hacks all the way down.

There is no Karl Rove here managing the messaging here. They are just loving stupid.

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos

Pick posted:

Unwanted touching is not sexual assault. It's actually one of the reasons why I, as a woman, would like to see some of the older and more clear terminology employed. Biden himself admitted that his standards for personal space and touching needed to change, but that is not the same as saying her saying that he is guilty of or admitted guilt for rape.

Shut the gently caress up Pick, penetrating someone with their fingers is rape, the man who did it to me went to jail for rape.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Glumwheels posted:

But online leftists say she’s a cop :magemage:

I wonder how much Trump’s stupidity and bad messaging will now push people towards Kamala.

Anyone who doesn't think she's a cop, is a narc.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



sexpig by night posted:

is the living sniper the one who was the kid or the weird groomer dude because this is key in which demographics they appeal to
The kid

John Mohamed was executed

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

Jewel Repetition posted:

Or if the president is mentally incompetent, like Reagan, or Dubya, or Biden.

You do realize Biden isn't literally senile, right? Like, he did fine in the debates, he still gives coherent speeches (with his usual array of gaffes that can be spliced up), he's done many small campaign events and virtual rallies, we've seen him out and about and riding a bike and generally looking like a normal old guy.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Endorph posted:

i would call one sexual assault if it is done with obvious sexual interest, and the other rape. i am a woman who has experienced both. wanna try again champ or do rape victims only count if they agree with you about definitions

I'm saying that to use an article where she agrees that he has committed unwanted touching generally (which he agreed with!) as saying she thinks he's a rapist and tacitly supports rape is bullshit and what's worse, it's bullshit and you knowi it.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

sean10mm posted:

His "campaign" is not a strategic brain trust, it's just yes men and grifter moron hacks all the way down.

There is no Karl Rove here managing the messaging here. They are just loving stupid.

You underestimate how easy of a task this is at your own peril. People said the exact same thing about him in 2016.

Flying-PCP
Oct 2, 2005

nine-gear crow posted:

They also believe that Trump winning in 2020 will get them a Turbo Socialist Game of the Year Edition president in 2024 because... magic? I don't loving know anymore. D&D is pure grade malt brain poison par excellence.

It's more like a Dr Strange thing where the one timeline out of infinity billion where the left rises in America sometime before we all drown starts with Trump winning in 2020. This isn't a shitpost, it's legitimately the closest analogy I can think of off the top of my head to what the reasoning seems to be.

eggyolk
Nov 8, 2007


Who the hell is Tim Kaine?

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
Yeah, they think black people are going to turn out for her cause she's black and they are stupid but the VP rarely matters either way.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1293297150550577154?s=20

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013





eggyolk posted:

Who the hell is Tim Kaine?

Who?

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001


https://twitter.com/forbesmm/status/1293295179156402179?s=20

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

eggyolk posted:

Who the hell is Tim Kaine?
clinton's vp pick in 2016 believe it or not

he's popular and well known in virginia because he was governor during the tech shooting and handled the situation well (he was in japan and immediately cancelled all appointments to fly back to the us and invested money in mental health and such)

Literally nobody outside virginia has ever heard of him.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

I wasn't on board with Harris before but I am now.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

eggyolk posted:

Who the hell is Tim Kaine?

TIM KAINE IN THE MEMBRANE

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

eggyolk posted:

Who the hell is Tim Kaine?

A really good senator actually.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
Kamala is a cop who fostered a violently insane twitter following but I regretfully concede that she is very qualified for the role of VP.

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Boba Pearl posted:

Shut the gently caress up Pick, penetrating someone with their fingers is rape, the man who did it to me went to jail for rape.

Uh... I don't think anyone would disagree but im confused why this was said.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Derpies posted:

Man you could cut and paste this exact same paragraph in 2016 but replace Kamala with Tim Kaine.

Not really, Hillary basically bungled her relationship with Bernie by letting her personal feelings about anyone who dares oppose her get in the way, leading to a "joint campaign event" that was like the Appomattox courthouse. Notably, an unending quixotic Bernie campaign did not materialize this year.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Boba Pearl posted:

Shut the gently caress up Pick, penetrating someone with their fingers is rape, the man who did it to me went to jail for rape.

I am so sorry that happened to you. That's awful. I hope you are recovering. It's good he faced justice but that should have never happened to begin with.

I know there is nothing I can say to help. I just felt this warranted comment.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Pick posted:

I'm saying that to use an article where she agrees that he has committed unwanted touching generally (which he agreed with!) as saying she thinks he's a rapist and tacitly supports rape is bullshit and what's worse, it's bullshit and you knowi it.
I don't think it is bullshit. Please stop telling me what I do and don't believe. I think equivocating about what 'counts' as sexual assault is extremely hosed up, also.

Also, nice pivot! Glad you feel like that lets you get away with invalidating the opinions of sexual assault victims who disagree with you.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

spunkshui posted:

Uh... I don't think anyone would disagree but im confused why this was said.

Pick was trying to use her gender to get credibility on the issue and Boba Pearl blew that out of the water

karthun
Nov 16, 2006

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

LinYutang posted:

Of course it means something. It shows that Biden and Harris don't hold grudges and are willing to work with each other despite their differences, which squishy liberals like.

Also of note:

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1293282782433677312

Death to the Ivy's.

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TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Biden has never once really entertained shoring up the extreme left wing of the party except to do one better than Hillary and have an actual amicable relationship with Bernie. Trump is just going to run on Biden being the socialist antichrist and running that against Kamala makes as little sense as possible. Everyone's moderate (D) parents love Kamala. From a strategic standpoint it's a good pick. If you were hoping for an interesting pick, not really.

Why would he go after the extreme left wing of the party? They are not persuadable voters. They are willing to suck it up and vote for him, or they aren't. Nothing he says or does is going to change that.

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