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night slime
May 14, 2014

buglord posted:

Even though I knew it was coming the Elder dying still took me by surprise because I was delivering pacemakers to him. His farewell email was sweet, but still. :smith:

You can still wave at him when he shows up outside

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CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

buglord posted:

Even though I knew it was coming the Elder dying still took me by surprise because I was delivering pacemakers to him. His farewell email was sweet, but still. :smith:

He doesn't die if you keep doing the urgent deliveries to him. Now it probably stings even more!

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

CJacobs posted:

He doesn't die if you keep doing the urgent deliveries to him. Now it probably stings even more!

It does! :negative:

I also did a pizza mission where I had to hold onto a champagne bottle and christ alive that was the longest pizza mission ever. Here's hoping the ones after it are easier because that was ridic

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



buglord posted:

It does! :negative:

I also did a pizza mission where I had to hold onto a champagne bottle and christ alive that was the longest pizza mission ever. Here's hoping the ones after it are easier because that was ridic

That's the trickiest one.

Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo

buglord posted:

It does! :negative:

I also did a pizza mission where I had to hold onto a champagne bottle and christ alive that was the longest pizza mission ever. Here's hoping the ones after it are easier because that was ridic

The next delivery you have to walk backwards the whole time.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

buglord posted:

It does! :negative:

I also did a pizza mission where I had to hold onto a champagne bottle and christ alive that was the longest pizza mission ever. Here's hoping the ones after it are easier because that was ridic

that's the only one that can't be cheesed via ziplines

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
I assure you Peter Englert's pizza is VERY cheesy and he prefers it that way

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
This 30 fps cutscene bug on the PC version is a real bummer. Does anyone know if it's caused by something specific ingame or hardware wise? Does it happen to everyone? It seems completely random and you can fix it instantly by pausing and unpausing during the cutscene, so it may be some PS4 framerate locking tech dingleberry clinging onto the PC version for dear life.

the_enduser
May 1, 2006

They say the user lives outside the net.



Haven't seen it yet, but I play at 144. I get directx12 crashes all the time tho, but still trying to figure out if it's my hardware failing and not the game or directx. :shrug:

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
It's your hardware on that one. I had a couple DX12 errors as well until I reset my GPU overclock back to factory settings. I think what happens is, the game tries to pull too much horsepower from the GPU, so if you're overclocked it'll breach the 2100Mhz max core clock speed on most RTX cards and the GPU will just fizzle out and restart (per monitoring it through Windows' Event Viewer). Happens to me in Call of Duty MW 2019 as well if I turn on DX12 raytracing while overclocked.

edit: Speaking of technical stuff, this game is optimized like pure magic especially once you turn on DLSS, but I wish they hadn't adhered to Microsoft's DX12 borderless window standard. The game doesn't have exclusive fullscreen at all which makes your PC continue to run other apps in the background, so Death Stranding won't run as well if you've got for example YouTube or Discord open in another window or monitor. Would've been nice to see them go with Vulkan but then they wouldn't have been able to use DLSS so it was worth the tradeoff I think.

further edit: Yup, it's the game pushing the GPU too hard regarding the DX12 crashes. I just set my overclock and monitored it myself with Rivatuner; was able to force a crash by spinning the camera around and fiddling about from on top of a mountain with long sightlines. The core clock peaked at 2300Mhz just before the card disconnected.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Aug 10, 2020

the_enduser
May 1, 2006

They say the user lives outside the net.



Well I haven't OC'd my GPU, (which is a Titan x Pascal) so idk, but Warzone crashes for me too. I'm running on older hardware with a 4670k i5 too which IS OC'd so maybe it's that, things don't crash constantly though, so it's annoying to troubleshoot but it's getting time to upgrade with CP77 coming out soon anyways. Some stuff runs fine with dx12 tho like Control. I'm waiting on news of the 30xx series or Big Navi to decide on upgrades.

Roach Warehouse
Nov 1, 2010


I wish there were more missions like the Champagne Pizza one, it’s definitely one of the cooler moments that’s stuck with me after playing. sprinting down the highway in a speed skeleton then leaping over a river and hoping I could make it to the charging stations I was aiming for before my battery gave out.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Funny we were speaking of performance earlier, the game just got a new patch like an hour ago:

quote:

- Key assignments for Use/Dismount Vehicle can now be set separately to "Perform Action" and "In Vehicle". You can now set different keys for getting on and off a vehicle.
- When restarting the game after changing key assignments, some key assignments were reverted. This issue has now been fixed.
- Other stability improvements and general bug fixes are included.
- Fixed an issue where frame rate dropped when using Steam Input.

It's 5GB. Wonder if this will do anything for either of our issues.

edit: The 30 fps cutscene bug is not fixed.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Aug 10, 2020

Martian Manfucker
Dec 27, 2012

misandry is real
I was crashing every hour or so until I set the in-game option for Streaming Detail to "Default," then it was only once in awhile. Then I completely wiped my display drivers and reinstalled them and I stopped crashing all together. Worth a shot if you're getting those D3DD whatever crashes.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I turned my second monitor off and closed Discord and got some better performance out of the game, still left everything default but toggled on some upscaling thing?

I just got the quest to bring mama to her sister. McCree shows up and ambushes me with freaking three gold-face lions!! I got wrecked a few times by one, non-gold lion. I'm guessing the trick to defeating them is to cut their cords, since I just got that power. I tossed a few grenades before dying or mama dying knocked off of me, but didn't see any cords.

WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.
Nah you have to fight them rambo style. Bring plenty of grenades and couple assault rifles.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Is there somewhere nice I can set Mama down? Maybe some kind of spot immune to three evil lions

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Khanstant posted:

Is there somewhere nice I can set Mama down? Maybe some kind of spot immune to three evil lions

Put her in her shelter by the terminal. You can safely snipe from there too, I think.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
You also can use the terminal to craft new stuff in mid-battle iirc, I think it's the only time the game allows that so it's probably not what you're intended to do, just a side effect of where the fight happens.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
That's good to know, I'll revisit tomorrow and cheese the hell out of it if I can. I didn't even want to start this mission, I justed wanted to pickup my chiral boots in her p locker lol. Quest auto-starts and even after that they like, force-walk you outside in a way I don't recall ever happening before. Fair trade if you get to camp out inside and use terminal. I did get an ominous email about autotoxemia right before waltzing in to mama house. am I about to go through the bb-less part of the game? anything I should do before engaging that or is it just a quick thing?

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
If you want a direct spoiler (but not plot spoiler) answer: Yes. Immediately after doing the mission to take Mama to Mountain Knot, you will be without your BB for a while. It's up to you how fast you're willing to work to get it back, but there will be a whole chapter of the game dedicated to it.

If you don't want a spoiler answer: Make sure you've done everything you wanna do for now before escorting Mama to Mountain Knot. You probably should get used to trudging through snow while you have the luxury.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Khanstant posted:

I turned my second monitor off and closed Discord and got some better performance out of the game, still left everything default but toggled on some upscaling thing?

I just got the quest to bring mama to her sister. McCree shows up and ambushes me with freaking three gold-face lions!! I got wrecked a few times by one, non-gold lion. I'm guessing the trick to defeating them is to cut their cords, since I just got that power. I tossed a few grenades before dying or mama dying knocked off of me, but didn't see any cords.

Remember that running away is an option.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Gotta say I'm not a fan of how quickly desire paths form while online on PC. Compare these two screenshots, the first from my PS4 playthrough and the second from the same moment in the PC version:





This is on the FIRST trip returning to the West Distro from the Wind Farm. In the top one you can see the path starting to form a little bit just in front of the bridge, but in the bottom one it's already complete and they only get wider from there (draw distance doesn't show it but the PC path continues all the way to the bridge). They really shouldn't be this entrenched after only one delivery. I'm almost inclined to think they're bugged and it's not supposed to be this way, instead of just being because of the massive PC server clumps, but I dunno how I would check that.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Aug 11, 2020

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Hahaha i just figured out exactly how much i can store in an actual bridges truck.

Jesus.

E: Also I assume the otter hood is purely for use with floating carriers, you just float down a river with your stuff right?

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.
The otter hood is for wearing for the entire game

e: ok, I thought there would be some more game after ch.10, but it's literally a long-rear end movie

grate deceiver fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Aug 11, 2020

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

CJacobs posted:

If you want a direct spoiler (but not plot spoiler) answer: Yes. Immediately after doing the mission to take Mama to Mountain Knot, you will be without your BB for a while. It's up to you how fast you're willing to work to get it back, but there will be a whole chapter of the game dedicated to it.

If you don't want a spoiler answer: Make sure you've done everything you wanna do for now before escorting Mama to Mountain Knot. You probably should get used to trudging through snow while you have the luxury.

Got me a decent zip network over the mountains, pretty used to trudging in em by now. Got the level 3 all-terrain skelly too. Otherwise just need half a star for roboticist, I think there are some other preppers up in the mountains but I ain't seen deliveries for em yet so I assume they're locked for now.

I did have a pizza quest, but I already got auto-locked into mama mission. but once I cheese these lions, lol, no reason me and mama can deliver pizza together.

Codependent Poster posted:

Remember that running away is an option.

I feel like Higgs really needs to be taken down a peg right now. I watched some videos and I'm also realizing I have 3 lions b/c I set it to very hard a while back for the SSS ranks. Haven't felt it much yet, but this is definitely a place where it shows.

dogstile posted:

Hahaha i just figured out exactly how much i can store in an actual bridges truck.

Jesus.

E: Also I assume the otter hood is purely for use with floating carriers, you just float down a river with your stuff right?

Oh man, I don't even know if you can do floating carrier in water yet but I'm gonna try. Otter hood is just cool though, really love the squeeeeeeek noise it makes when going gon or off.

Oh yeah, other random cute detail: Left Sam and BB AFK in some hot spring, came back and BB was on his belly doggie paddling baby-syle. p adorable.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
Speaking of BB i really hate the glitch or whatever when you have to shake him to calm him down. For a few seconds he seems to like it but then eventually i get the warning sign and he turns away and the fluid chamber turns red. Does that happen for anyone else? It seems like you should be able to shake him more to calm him down but the game is all nope.

I have to resort to peeing since he likes watching that or double jumping a lot. I was hoping the 5gb patch would fix this.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

BB likes going fast and doing sick wheelies and jumps and poo poo; sometimes when you're on a zipline he opens his little BB shade to watch and is happily clapping along as you zoom down the line

Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo
He also loves it if you sit and play your harmonica.

Gambrinus
Mar 1, 2005

buglord posted:

Speaking of BB i really hate the glitch or whatever when you have to shake him to calm him down. For a few seconds he seems to like it but then eventually i get the warning sign and he turns away and the fluid chamber turns red. Does that happen for anyone else? It seems like you should be able to shake him more to calm him down but the game is all nope.

I have to resort to peeing since he likes watching that or double jumping a lot. I was hoping the 5gb patch would fix this.

Please don't shake your baby.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Gambrinus posted:

Please don't shake your baby.


buglord posted:

Speaking of BB baby i really hate the glitch crying or whatever when you have to shake him to calm him down. For a few seconds he seems to like it but then eventually i get the warning sign and he turns away and the fluid chamber he turns red. Does that happen for anyone else? It seems like you should be able to shake him more to calm him down but the game is all nope.

I have to resort to peeing since he likes watching that or double jumping a lot. I was hoping the 5gb patch would fix this.

kinda want to go paste that post on a babysitting advice forum

the_enduser
May 1, 2006

They say the user lives outside the net.



buglord posted:

Speaking of BB i really hate the glitch or whatever when you have to shake him to calm him down. For a few seconds he seems to like it but then eventually i get the warning sign and he turns away and the fluid chamber turns red. Does that happen for anyone else? It seems like you should be able to shake him more to calm him down but the game is all nope.

I have to resort to peeing since he likes watching that or double jumping a lot. I was hoping the 5gb patch would fix this.

lol you're shaking BB too hard

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Please don't babysit anyone's kids :v:

night slime
May 14, 2014
E/N - Several months after sex this glitch appeared and keeps crying

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

buglord posted:

Speaking of BB i really hate the glitch or whatever when you have to shake him to calm him down. For a few seconds he seems to like it but then eventually i get the warning sign and he turns away and the fluid chamber turns red. Does that happen for anyone else? It seems like you should be able to shake him more to calm him down but the game is all nope.

I have to resort to peeing since he likes watching that or double jumping a lot. I was hoping the 5gb patch would fix this.

That's really weird I didn't even think that was possible. I've never seen that.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



buglord posted:

Speaking of BB i really hate the glitch or whatever when you have to shake him to calm him down. For a few seconds he seems to like it but then eventually i get the warning sign and he turns away and the fluid chamber turns red. Does that happen for anyone else? It seems like you should be able to shake him more to calm him down but the game is all nope.

I have to resort to peeing since he likes watching that or double jumping a lot. I was hoping the 5gb patch would fix this.

Gently rock BB, you are shaking the baby waaaaay too hard. Also BB loves going fast, bikes and zip lines are great but trucks and sprinting can work too.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

buglord posted:

Speaking of BB i really hate the glitch or whatever when you have to shake him to calm him down. For a few seconds he seems to like it but then eventually i get the warning sign and he turns away and the fluid chamber turns red. Does that happen for anyone else? It seems like you should be able to shake him more to calm him down but the game is all nope.

I have to resort to peeing since he likes watching that or double jumping a lot. I was hoping the 5gb patch would fix this.

I just keep at it, never quite get the timing perfect but just push the stick up and down repeatedly at some regularish pace and he'll eventually start laughing.

Wheeee posted:

BB likes going fast and doing sick wheelies and jumps and poo poo; sometimes when you're on a zipline he opens his little BB shade to watch and is happily clapping along as you zoom down the line

I love when the bike decides to go into overdrive, can't do it on command, tilting wheel up while going over rocks seems to be the best way. Funniest is when you get hung up on a rock lip or something, but the bike keeps building up momentum and then you go flying up really high or far fast.

BB also loves a cool double jump over a river or over a couple hills.

The big scary fight wasn't so bad, you totally can camp 100% safely it was really chill. Finally ran out of blood bags though and the white boys stopped throwing me new ones. Fortunately, discovered by accident I still have like a hundred cryptos and d-cryptos on me. Always wondered what happened to the ones I collected but didn't eat.

Also new item is lame? Power Glove seems flat worse than Gravity Glove? Rarely encounter sliding action and punching mules is last resort.

Storywise:
Wasn't expecting Mama to die but I guess also she didn't really, or kind of already was but became more alive now? I wasn't shocked, however, to find out the guy with the sinister skull face turns out to be a shady guy lol Kudos to Kojima for not naming him Betray Samman or Backstab Moleman

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
The gravity gloves weren't originally in the game, they're one of the half-life tie in items. The power gloves made much more sense on the PS4 version.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Lou Takki posted:

That's really weird I didn't even think that was possible. I've never seen that.

Haha same. I thought I was rotating the thing as fast as possible.

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

CJacobs posted:

The gravity gloves weren't originally in the game, they're one of the half-life tie in items. The power gloves made much more sense on the PS4 version.

Ohhh okay. I hope post-game there are more "special" items, kojima games are usually pretty great about it. There's a lot of game breaking stuff I would love to gently caress with in this engine and movement system. Some frog-leg skeleton super jumps, a BotW Glider, snowcraft, reverse sticky gun to pull youerself, hover boots, poo poo like that. Would also dig some faster vehicles, funny hat to make enemies ignore u, etc

P.S. Trying pissing in the snow!

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