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cheetah7071 posted:The WoL has a few special powers that mostly grant well-defined minor boons. Like being immune to tempering, etc. Don't forget breathing underwater. That alone has saved the realms several times already. cheetah7071 posted:Even then, my read isn't that it "came from" Azem so much as "the kind of person you are persists through reincarnation" That was my reading as well. We do have Ardbert to go on for that, as a start. There are variances but some core aspects are harder to shift. Also I'm pretty sure Azem shares your WoL's pronoun, for the record, since some posts above were saying "he" where I got "she."
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It's loving me up that I correctly called "The Azim Steppe has something to do with the ancient!WoL" but completely missed how similar Azim/Azeyma sound. I'd initially thought that the Dotharl looked like a society that once worshipped the WoL, though if you swap blue for purple they sound a fair bit like ascians after a millennia long game of telephone.
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Zomborgon posted:Don't forget breathing underwater. Yeah Azem was always gendered as a woman for me as well, which threw me for a second reading other peoples speculation. I suppose ancient timeless beings don't really have genders as such, however.
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Power levels are canon, this is the only explanation for the end of Act 1 in Stormblood. Also
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Aug 12, 2020 20:09
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corgski posted:Yeah Azem was always gendered as a woman for me as well, which threw me for a second reading other peoples speculation. I suppose ancient timeless beings don't really have genders as such, however. Reincarnation makes gender basically fluid. Even if your WoL is a woman, Ardbert is Azem too just as much as you are, and he's definitely a man. CharlieFoxtrot posted:Power levels are canon, this is the only explanation for the end of Act 1 in Stormblood. Also What I mean is more that like, the WoL isn't just gonna tank lesser foes' attacks; some jackass with a sword is totally capable of killing the WoL if they get sloppy.
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Jetrauben posted:Reincarnation makes gender basically fluid. Even if your WoL is a woman, Ardbert is Azem too just as much as you are, and he's definitely a man. I mean we did kinda do that in the cutscene before the WoL trial
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erenoyo posted:I mean we did kinda do that in the cutscene before the WoL trial ...point.
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Jetrauben posted:sloppy do not
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Solovey posted:he doesn't get to drop the 'tia' until he also gets to gently caress Given this there is another way to interpret her statement.
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Aug 12, 2020 21:08
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hobbesmaster posted:Given this there is another way to interpret her statement. She's gonna have to go through WoL-me to get there.
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Aug 12, 2020 21:17
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A commemorative photo with one of my alts
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Aug 12, 2020 21:30
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I'm so glad we got to save our collective husband
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Aug 12, 2020 21:31
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It'd be kind of weird to have him be a prominent part of two expansions in a row but I guess Alisaie got to be part of the main team in both Stormblood and Shadowbringers
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Aug 12, 2020 21:34
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Challenge Complete is a very good sticker Is there a way to resize stickers
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Aug 12, 2020 21:36
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Eox posted:I'm so glad we got to save our collective husband I came in here in the middle of work just to talk about how I’d die for cat man, and I want him to stay alive forever, and how he’s the best Scion, and he’s aliiiive, my boy is alive! Overall though, loved the patch and pray that Ishikawa was too busy for 5.1/5.2 because of 6.0. If anyone can make Zenos and Fandaniel work, it’s her.
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Aug 12, 2020 21:37
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broken pixel posted:he’s the best Scion this is violence against Tataru and I will not stand for it
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Aug 12, 2020 21:46
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Nipponophile posted:I love the dwarves. I mean, sounds like they just drank their fuel.
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Aug 12, 2020 22:00
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corgski posted:I mean, sounds like they just drank their fuel. You have to help them build a brewery which is also used to make fuel.
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Aug 12, 2020 22:07
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Guys, I have news about the Pendants. I didn't even catch it yesterday, but: he's just sitting there, on the table. Watching.
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Aug 12, 2020 22:51
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Sometimes he's on the balcony.
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Jim Long-un posted:this is violence against Tataru and I will not stand for it Okay, okay, I accept them as co- best Scions
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Aug 12, 2020 23:22
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the WoL just fucken BOOKING it out of the infirmary all the way to the tower was great
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Aug 12, 2020 23:26
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 me getting ready to post about getting completely loving pulverized by basically every mechanic in the yorha raid because im bad at reading any nonstandard telegraph
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I will be honest I was half expecting that when you arrive with the spirit vessels in the Source, the WoL would suddenly realize they forgot to label them.
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cheetah7071 posted:It'd be kind of weird to have him be a prominent part of two expansions in a row but I guess Alisaie got to be part of the main team in both Stormblood and Shadowbringers And she still didn't get character development in either of them (Stormblood was more 'showcasing development she got off-screen'). If anything I'd say G'raha's already ahead of her.
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Unlucky7 posted:I will be honest Lmao I had the same thought - imagining Krile chewing you out in frustration
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I too was half expecting some sort of gag where Alphinaud and Alisaie got mixed up, even though it wouldn’t tonallly fit
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Cleretic posted:And she still didn't get character development in either of them (Stormblood was more 'showcasing development she got off-screen'). If anything I'd say G'raha's already ahead of her. I think you missed some large chunks of Shadowbringers.
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Onmi posted:So, some thoughts. Has anyone else matched Ascian to constellation to soul stone line? I don't really know my star signs off by eye.
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Ibblebibble posted:Has anyone else matched Ascian to constellation to soul stone line? I don't really know my star signs off by eye. 
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Emet-Selch literally can't help being a gemini
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Aug 13, 2020 01:07
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ImpAtom posted:I think you missed some large chunks of Shadowbringers. Oh, I firmly remember Tesleen, but... the game didn't seem to want to. Or at least didn't seem to have a lot to do with that. And outside of that she didn't really get a massive amount of spotlight. It's fair enough that in an expansion that tried to fit in all the Scions rather than just a couple, someone still ended up with less spotlight. But Alisaie is also absolutely right to complain that she didn't get any real personal development.
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Cleretic posted:Oh, I firmly remember Tesleen, but... the game didn't seem to want to. Or at least didn't seem to have a lot to do with that. And outside of that she didn't really get a massive amount of spotlight. ... It gets brought up multiple times throughout the game and is the focus a chunk of the post-MSQ plot. She gets more development time and focus than Y'shtola and Urianger.
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You literally go to Tesleen's grave in the 5.3 ending
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Alisaie is like the primary Scion involved in the "tempering is hosed up, what can we do about it" storyline, with deeply personal connections driving the story in multiple patches
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Back to the Azem = Azeyma/Azim stuff. There's a ruined Cathedral made by worshippers of Sephirot in Azys Lla. It's also adorned with symbols nearly identical to Eorzean's symbol for Azeyma. I'm not sure where that link goes - Azem = Sephirot? Azem was linked to Sephirot in some way? (A sun god and a tree god in cahoots? No way.) But it seems likely that Azem in one way or the other was still known all over the world fairly recently.
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Thanks, guess I'll need to rewatch the cutscenes to match up the lines.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Alisaie is like the primary Scion involved in the "tempering is hosed up, what can we do about it" storyline, with deeply personal connections driving the story in multiple patches Yeah, and I think that's going to start paying dividends soon. If I had to make predictions I think we'll see more of that as a focus in 5.4 and 5.5, possibly even going through the next expansion as her big Thing, but right now we're only in the phase of 'seeds for a solution got planted', they haven't done a whole lot with it yet. It's just been the few scenes with Ga Bu and then like, one cutscene in 5.1 Comparing Alisaie in ShB to Urianger is hard, because the big advancement for him was never that he got new things to do, it was that he got things to do at all, this is the first time he got promoted to 'main cast'. But if you think Alisaie got more stuff to do in Shadowbringers (and new stuff, at that) than Y'shtola... well, I wanna know what Shadowbringers you played.
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