|
Orv posted:I'd be less leery about it if it wasn't Phlegmish doing the posting after his posting last week. There have been dogpiles/probations where I ended up ashamed of myself, that absolutely was not one of them. The whole reaction to my frankly fairly inoffensive posts (consistently interpreted in bad faith and in the least charitable way) was so toxic and unreasonable that I even had Stream thread users PM'ing their sympathy to me.
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:36
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 21, 2024 18:18 |
|
|
Scalding Coffee posted:Was the upcoming game, Kingpin, a thing decades ago? It's a remake of an intensely bad shooter from ages ago, yes.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:37
|
|
|
Orv posted:It's a remake of an intensely bad shooter from ages ago, yes. My favorite part was the wobbly textures that make everyone look like they are a balloon filled with boiling water
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:39
|
|
|
Orv posted:It's a remake of an intensely bad shooter from ages ago, yes. Intensely bad shooter with admittedly a pretty cool flamethrower for the time. Really all I remember about it was “bad game” and “cool flamethrower” is the remake 20 years later is baffling.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:39
|
|
|
Phlegmish posted:There have been dogpiles/probations where I ended up ashamed of myself, that absolutely was not one of them. The whole reaction to my frankly fairly inoffensive posts (consistently interpreted in bad faith and in the least charitable way) was so toxic and unreasonable that I even had Stream thread users PM'ing their sympathy to me. Your posting sucks rear end, regardless of whether you were in fact playing the game you got accused of in your probe.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:39
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:Intensely bad shooter with admittedly a pretty cool flamethrower for the time.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:41
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:Intensely bad shooter with admittedly a pretty cool flamethrower for the time. The flamethrower was pretty neat and I'd link to a video of it but a cursory google for it shows me that either Kingpin had very bad sound mixing or no one has ever recorded a video of that game without blowing my eardrums out. Also there was a reprise of the flamethrower in Renegade, my personal favorite bad shooter from the late 90s/early 2000s. 
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:42
|
|
|
Cardiovorax posted:It's weirdly hard to name games that have ever done flamethrowers well, come to think of it. The best you ever seem to get are boring and ineffectual propane torches. Far Cry 2 and on, and, uh... Hmm. And in far cry it’s the fire spreading that’s doing most of the heavy lifting anyway. Orv posted:
Hell yeah, Renegade owns.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:43
|
|
|
RtCW's flamethrower was pretty effective, I recall. Not a lot of ammo for it. E: Has any game actually made a proper, napalm spewing flamethrower with actual range?
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:44
|
|
|
Orv posted:Your posting sucks rear end, regardless of whether you were in fact playing the game you got accused of in your probe. OK, while it's not very nice, that's at least an insult I can accept. Now let's drop this, I won't talk about porn games (thus making GBS threads up the thread) again.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:45
|
|
|
Oh World at War notably had a flamethrower you could use in multiplayer and at CoD ranges it worked fairly decently and was a good time.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:46
|
|
|
Tonight, if nothing goes wrong, I'm going to finish the story mode of EDF 4.1 and save the world, and god I love this game. I'm actually invested in the story, which is ridiculous but like... things keep getting worse and worse for humanity and the characters go from despair to "...we can't give up!" and yeah!! We won't give up! Storm Team is here to kill 300 meter robots!!!! Notes on the gameplay: - Laser Chainsaw is OP, best weapon in the game - Replaying missions on hard is the only way to get new weapons for my second slot, weird balance there - I will never get tired of killing bugs - Sadly Wing Diver is the only viable class due to its speed and ability to get on top of things, I'd like to play the others but that's what burned me out last time - The Deroys or Decoys or whatever they're called are the most terrifying things in the game and I respect them There's a mission where you arrive on foot to a battlefield where 8+ giant mechas fight 8+ giant godzillas and you have to kill bugs before they climb on the mechas and disable them and it's the single coolest thing in anything ever, I've never felt like a foot soldier at a kaiju fight before it was the COOLEST. and then mid-mission it gets even cooler and aaaaa     I understand EDF 5 fixes the QoL stuff and I cannot wait to play it but also 4.1 is really near and dear to me and I'm glad I put in the time to finish out the story, as the journey has been so worthwhile. Can't wait to close it out!!
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:48
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:Far Cry 2 and on, and, uh... Oh man, I remember being blown away by the fire propagation in that game back in the day. I thought COD:WAW had a fun flame thrower, but it was nowhere near as cool as FC2
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:51
|
|
|
Mordja posted:RtCW's flamethrower was pretty effective, I recall. Not a lot of ammo for it. The ones in C&C3 are ~2/3 range of the basic infantry, but that's an RTS
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:54
|
|
|
Friendly reminder to anyone that likes total war games, the new one, Total War: Troy is free for the first 24h of release tomorrow on the epic store.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 19:55
|
|
|
Mordja posted:RtCW's flamethrower was pretty effective, I recall. Not a lot of ammo for it. the flamethrower in the mac version of wolfenstein 3d has infinite range i think Unreal 2 had the coolest one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMwefLFcYhg&t=37s
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:01
|
|
|
Phlegmish posted:So we were discussing Western porn games and their viability a while earlier - I just finished the first season of Being a DIK, and I have to say it was a pleasant surprise. It's a competent visual novel with an excellent sense of aesthetics and artfully rendered characters/textures/models (although in typical fashion the average boob/dick size is not very realistic). The story is not what you'd call deep or philosophical, but I got hooked anyway, and I can't wait to find out what happens next to my dumbass but somehow irresistible player character in Season 2. It all just does a great job of straddling the line between exaggerated, self-aware porn parody of American campus culture and teen drama. There are many completely ridiculous situations and lines of dialog, so it's not for those who'd be bothered by that, but all of it is consensual (vulgarity and ridiculousness aside), and none of it is particularly misogynistic. It also has unironic warnings for dark themes like drug use, and warns depressed people to reconsider playing it if they're going through a bad time, which I appreciated. Sold.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:01
|
|
|
EDF is just a ground based Ace Combat with loot drops, and it is glorious.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:04
|
|
|
Cardiovorax posted:It's weirdly hard to name games that have ever done flamethrowers well, come to think of it. The best you ever seem to get are boring and ineffectual propane torches.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:05
|
|
|
I feel like flamethrowers (while cool in real life) are inherently just kind of a boring weapon in video games. You can make the burning effects look impressive, but that's about it, most of the time your character is just standing there as you hold down a button. That's why I refuse to use the Drakegun as Bardin in Vermintide 2.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:09
|
|
|
Cardiovorax posted:It's weirdly hard to name games that have ever done flamethrowers well, come to think of it. The best you ever seem to get are boring and ineffectual propane torches. I want to say Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory had a sick flamethrower but I honestly can't remember why and might just be nostalgia goggles
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:10
|
|
|
Even in Enemy Territory I didn't like the flamethrower and never used it. I don't really know why, just seems 'lame' somehow, even though you obviously have to get really close to your enemies for it to be effective.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:12
|
|
|
alien isolation's flamethrower was a dear friend also a big fan of the one in the first metro exodus dlc
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:15
|
|
|
Orv posted:It's a remake of an intensely bad shooter from ages ago, yes. The reviews for that game on gaming magazines were incredibly amusing.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:16
|
|
|
Scalding Coffee posted:Was the upcoming game, Kingpin, a thing decades ago? It does some interesting things(for the time) with the Quake 2 engine, the setting was unique, and there is an incredible amount of fucks dropped in the dialog  but mainly it was controversial for being the first big fps to come out after Columbine. It's pretty hard(and buggy) if you're not super tuned into 90's shooters, they're gonna have their work cut out for them if they want more than niche sales. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Aug 12, 2020 |
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:16
|
|
|
I’m just confused why stuff that’s twenty years old, that didn’t even make a splash at release, are suddenly getting remasters. XIII is also getting one and that was met with a resounding “meh” back then.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:18
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:I’m just confused why stuff that’s twenty years old, that didn’t even make a splash at release, are suddenly getting remasters. XIII is also getting one and that was met with a resounding “meh” back then. Because people forget what the games were actually like and will put down money for it (see Shenmue kickstarter).
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:19
|
|
|
I forgot XIII is getting a remaster, I still can't believe it. It sounds like an april fool's joke that's satirizing remasters
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:20
|
|
|
didn't kingpin sell really well? i figured it got the controversy bump even if it was never very good.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:20
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:I’m just confused why stuff that’s twenty years old, that didn’t even make a splash at release, are suddenly getting remasters. XIII is also getting one and that was met with a resounding “meh” back then. XIII has a pretty sizeable cult following on account for its wonderful aesthetic.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:21
|
|
|
HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:XIII has a pretty sizeable cult following on account for its wonderful aesthetic. A wonderful aesthetic that they look to have completely neutered in the remaster...
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:37
|
|
|
XIII and Kingpin both had cult followings swearing the sum was greater than the parts.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:38
|
|
|
Phlegmish posted:I feel like flamethrowers (while cool in real life) are inherently just kind of a boring weapon in video games.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:38
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:I’m just confused why stuff that’s twenty years old, that didn’t even make a splash at release, are suddenly getting remasters. XIII is also getting one and that was met with a resounding “meh” back then. Kingpin at least is down to 3D Realms somehow being a going concern again, which is really the more baffling thing to me.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:39
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:I’m just confused why stuff that’s twenty years old, that didn’t even make a splash at release, are suddenly getting remasters. XIII is also getting one and that was met with a resounding “meh” back then. If you're doing a fairly minimal remaster a lot of the work is already done and the success Nightdive has been having shows there is gold in them hills. Kingpin and XIII both have a decent cult following and the cult game hype will bring in curious onlookers as well. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Aug 12, 2020 |
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:39
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:I’m just confused why stuff that’s twenty years old, that didn’t even make a splash at release, are suddenly getting remasters. XIII is also getting one and that was met with a resounding “meh” back then. Coming up with new ideas is hard. Why do that when you can just re-use an old one that most people don't remember?
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:41
|
|
|
Phlegmish posted:I feel like flamethrowers (while cool in real life) are inherently just kind of a boring weapon in video games. You can make the burning effects look impressive, but that's about it, most of the time your character is just standing there as you hold down a button. That's why I refuse to use the Drakegun as Bardin in Vermintide 2. Flamethrowers are just lovely versions of shotguns in game. Also, they usually aren't given enough ammo.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:47
|
|
|
Flamethrowers in video games usually suck because they act like a gun and the only special thing they do is make it harder for you to see what you’re trying to hit. It’s also not fun at all to die or lose control of your avatar the instant you touch fire so it would just be frustrating to play against.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:48
|
|
|
I had a lot of fun with the various Pyro flamethrowers in Team Fortress 2, ambushing someone with the Backburner was delightful.
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 20:55
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 21, 2024 18:18 |
|
|
Kibayasu posted:Flamethrowers in video games usually suck because they act like a gun and the only special thing they do is make it harder for you to see what you’re trying to hit. It’s also not fun at all to die or lose control of your avatar the instant you touch fire so it would just be frustrating to play against. It's also a lot easier to make a weapon that deals damage in a cone and has a fire effect, than it is to model a weapon that shoots a stream of burning liquid which spreads and flows after hitting something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV2ykd2p8g0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pRihxvk4YY
|
|
#
?
Aug 12, 2020 21:17
|
|
