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YES bread posted:everyone is so sick of villains with understandable motivations and tragic backstories. "please" theyre crying out, "just let me bunch a dude in a nazi uniform!!!" lol if you think 'I really enjoy hurting people because my culture and social class selects for nihilistic sadism' is a difficult motivation to wrap your brain around in 2020.
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I started an alt. In the cutscene where you pick up your first crystal, you get the “Hear... Feel... Think...” followed by a vision of a starshower. I know they plan pretty far ahead, but imagine slipping that in only to pay it off nearly ten years later. 
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Sinteres posted:I was waiting for Zenos to snap and murder him, so yeah I'm on team 'he's going to get sick of this poo poo.' I really really hope Zenos isn't actually the primary villain of 6.0 though, since we already played that expansion. That said, we presumably still have to deal with the Empire once and for all at some point, and he's just about the only character left we know (aside from Gaius), so maybe it's inevitable. I hope the groundwork in 5.4 and 5.5 will be good. Speculating about what the hub cities in 6.0 will be... is Terncliff a teaser? With the importance of the SoFro being established and its proximity to the Garlean empire itself, I'm still hoping for Radz-at-Han Cleretic posted:I think it came up in the all-roles capstone quest, but I don't recall exactly. Cylva says that Ardbert "granted them that what he refused me," aka death, but no specifics CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Aug 16, 2020 |
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I wanna see Sharlayan. SHOW ME THE NERDS.
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Nibble posted:I started an alt. In the cutscene where you pick up your first crystal, you get the “Hear... Feel... Think...” followed by a vision of a starshower. That's not really planning ahead, just referencing back to something.
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YES bread posted:everyone is so sick of villains with understandable motivations and tragic backstories. "please" theyre crying out, "just let me bunch a dude in a nazi uniform!!!" There was literally an editorial claiming this not long ago. Heh.
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YES bread posted:everyone is so sick of villains with understandable motivations and tragic backstories. "please" theyre crying out, "just let me bunch a dude in a nazi uniform!!!" They tried than and then a bunch of people started to agree with the guy in the Nazi uniform so hard they need to make a plotline about his children dying because of his actions to drive home how wrong he was.
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Darth Walrus posted:lol if you think 'I really enjoy hurting people because my culture and social class selects for nihilistic sadism' is a difficult motivation to wrap your brain around in 2020. I have no idea how you're getting this from my post? I was talking about Shadowbringers and how it seems everyone is wore out from complicated villains and wants something straightforward now. what on earth did you think I meant
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YES bread posted:I was talking about Shadowbringers and how it seems everyone is wore out from complicated villains and wants something straightforward now. I gotta say that I haven't heard anything of the sort, if anything, the incredible majority opinion is that the depth of character adds a lot to the experience. Like hell yeah it's emotionally intense but that doesn't mean I want it to stop.
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I really dont think many people are clamoring for the Garlean Empire to be cast in a sympathetic light the way the Ascians were is what I mean
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Bacontotem posted:Urianger's ending scene has much potential 
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Knocked out Puppets' Bunker this evening. As someone who barely knows anything about Automata, that was a very dull raid. We did what the scantily clad white robot lady said because she assured us she was the good guy. Now we did what the scantily clad black robot lady said because she assured us she was the good guy. Visually, it was also a disappointment. The initial part moving along the wreckage towards the station was neat, but then you fall in and it's just one grey corridor and room after another. Getting to explore the raid area after finishing the raid was again kind of neat, but also reinforced how boring it was and how meaningless the lore blurbs are. Final boss was weird enough to be worth fighting, but nothing else in that raid was interesting enough to be worth the hassle of fighting through it.
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Cythereal posted:Knocked out Puppets' Bunker this evening. I kind of agree. It was visually not very interesting until the final boss, and the rewards for doing the exploration are super lackluster. The third raid better have a lot of explanation, too, because it just isn’t explaining itself at all and it’s kind of frustrating
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YES bread posted:I really dont think many people are clamoring for the Garlean Empire to be cast in a sympathetic light the way the Ascians were is what I mean Now, that, I can agree with.
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Aug 16, 2020 23:20
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I thought the Nier story this round was pretty nothing as well, but the fights were fun.
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thetoughestbean posted:because it just isn’t explaining itself at all and it’s kind of frustrating Congratulations, you have now played a Nier game
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erenoyo posted:Congratulations, you have now played a Nier game A Nier game via installments would be pretty annoying.
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Still need to watch the NieR stage play and listen to the audio drama
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erenoyo posted:Congratulations, you have now played a Nier game I played Nier Automata, I didn’t have to wait six months between endings.
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Yeah, hopefully the third part has a nice story dump and it'll be something better played all at once.
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thetoughestbean posted:I kind of agree. It was visually not very interesting until the final boss, and the rewards for doing the exploration are super lackluster. I agree with the complaints about the Nier raids so far, especially in direct comparison to how they integrated the Ivalice stuff - the latter was done with a lot of work to tie it into the actual world of XIV and set up actual world building for the MMO we're in; meanwhile the Nier raids feel quite disconnected from pretty much everything in the First, let alone the rest of the game. The one thing which gives me (probably false, I admit) hope is that right now the story is sort of holding to the story structure of the actual Nier games. For those unfamiliar with the titles Nier and Nier Automata have notable "twists" in that the initial progression of the story seems pretty standard and boilerplate. Until you hit a certain point, the plot can be decent and the world building interesting but it's the reframing of context given by the twist that people often find most memorable. In Nier this happens by letting you hear the voices of your enemies and discover that they're not the mindless aggressive monsters you assumed they were but are intelligent and may actually have just as much a claim to humanity than your viewpoint characters do. In Nier Automata it happens by first doing something similar to the first game in giving you viewpoints into the things you've been fighting the entire time, but adds onto it by dropping reveals way late into the game that your entire organization and purpose was a fraud and doomed to failure and that your viewpoint players have the same origins as the things you've been fighting the entire time. I bring this up mostly because what we've gotten from the XIV raids strikes me a lot like the initial story presentation of the Nier games; we're given the most basic of justifications for what's going on and are then thrust into a lot of situations where we solve problems by violence without really asking why we're doing it and who we're doing it to. There remains room in the story to elaborate on exactly what the gently caress is going on and come to a resolution which is, at least, interesting. To be fair this is going to be a bit of a stretch to wrap up in one raid and maybe two patches worth of story. Additionally, the other games they're trying to reference in XIV aren't memorable just because of their twists - they're memorable because of interesting characters, good world-building, and imaginative and messed up plot events. Right now the XIV raids have none of those, so my optimism is tempered.
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I am genuinely curious what yoko taro will go with for the 11th hour twist to it all, as well if he’d attempt the equivalent to just deleting our characters. Actually would be a funny raid mechanic if one or two raid parties will have to die just to buff the main party. Also kinda curious where the dwarf story arc is going in nier since that seems like the arc you’d be going with considering how little we’ve gotten with 2P and 2b
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I will point out with the Nier raids that we still don't have an explanation for why all of this is actually happening, and on the First, at that. And I can't picture an explanation for why androids from Earth in the 11000s are on the First that isn't Yoko Taro-level bonkers.
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FC Discord pointed this out to me, but look at the side of the Scion Traveler's Jacket  Tataru what do you know
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The final n3 boss will simply be a raid action of a button that has a 20 second timer. If anyone presses the button, the raid wipes
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Waffleman_ posted:FC Discord pointed this out to me, but look at the side of the Scion Traveler's Jacket It came to her in a dream
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Waffleman_ posted:FC Discord pointed this out to me, but look at the side of the Scion Traveler's Jacket That's just scratching the surface https://reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/iac4vz/spoilers_53_the_travelers_glyph/
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Sentient Data posted:The final n3 boss will simply be a raid action of a button that has a 20 second timer. If anyone presses the button, the raid wipes quote:Yoshida showed off a peek of The Puppets Bunker, the second chapter of the YoRHA Dark Apocalypse alliance raid compilation with NieR Automata. They had to adjust it a lot in testing and when they showed it to Yoko Taro he said “Oh if we die, we die, ok? You should make it so that the whole raid wipes if you press this Duty Action.”
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Anora posted:Did 2B and 9S bring the First that one plague from Neir 1? I think it's plausible, and could even have more evidence and impact than we expect. We never did get an explanation for the white powdery substance around the end of the Copied Factory, but it matches the substance that caused that plague. As for the plague... well, mostly it turned people into stone (hello, healer role quest). But among those that survived, many got deep red eyes, ashen features, and unusual abilities. And it's always struck me as curious that the Cardinal Virtues look nothing like other sin eaters...
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Sentient Data posted:The final n3 boss will simply be a raid action of a button that has a 20 second timer. If anyone presses the button, the raid wipes
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Meiteron posted:the latter was done with a lot of work to tie it into the actual world of XIV and set up actual world building for the MMO we're in Was it? Because imo exposition doesn't count if it's done in the most dense and insufferable method possible, with the driest and most insufferable NPCs available.
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It's cool and all that we get this nice, self-affirming moments... ...because most of the time I have no idea what I'm even doing.  I heard Gaius has been regretting his earlier choices.  So why not make him regret his latest ones too?  ...man...
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So, Shiva Unreal battle report for the day. The first two runs ended at 100% when people left without even starting to fight. The second run ended at 80% when the concept of "Turn the sword" and "add phase" passed over people wearing i500 gear. Run 3 actually went rather well, a new PUG, we got to 20% and died to enrage, no problem. We got to 18% next time but the party wiped. Final run ended at 50% It was a mostly fine run except I'm still not great at tank swapping and also the Raid leader insisted on having the entire raid run north for Sword phase to take the slash. Even after the Sword-Tank said "I can just turn it." Spoilers: No one ran north to take the cleave. Conclusion: The Enrage is REALLY TIGHT and also if a Raid leader isn't a tank they really shouldn't determine how a tank handles a tank mechanic...
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