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Elfgames posted:they don't have anyone else Yeah, Will Smith is one of the last Movie Stars, whose name and presence automatically carries cachet and a box office bump.
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Aug 18, 2020 13:17
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The green screen is working at least,
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Aug 18, 2020 13:59
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AceOfFlames posted:No Quad City DJs. Zero stars. Yeah how do you gently caress up that badly.
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Aug 18, 2020 14:24
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Who is that?
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Aug 18, 2020 14:35
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This is not canon
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Aug 18, 2020 14:36
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Fartbox posted:Who is that? They did the theme song to the original. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eo_FX4HGPM whydirt posted:This is not canon This, however, is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWKQiZVBtu4
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Aug 18, 2020 14:43
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Lid posted:I haven't seen it but from what i've heard the directors cut of KoH is meant to be one of the best films of the 21st century and should be in the same conversation as things like The New World, There Will Be Blood and other epics. I haven't seen it partially because of that level of praise and the original was so poor it makes me side eye it. It's definitely better and shifts the tone of the film from a plodding tentpole to something that breathes a bit more and gives some depth to the characters. But it's not a radical transformation. I'd say that it moves the film from being mediocre to good, but not great.
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Aug 18, 2020 14:57
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Iron Crowned posted:I am not sure exactly why Will Smith still has the Hollywood capital he had back in the 90's though, because he's, been in nothing but bombs for a while. Aladdin made a billion dollars and Smith was put in the tough position of being compared to an iconic, beloved actor's probable most iconic role.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:07
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Alan Smithee posted:conan had steven lang which was weird cuz he's basically the same guy as his avatar character but with more hair and ill be damned if I can tell you what else the two movies have in common Yeah Steven Lang goes whole hog on the scenery chewing but it's no good, the movie is a boring ugly slog. I mean, Lang fights Conan with two dual-bladed swords and it's only mildly entertaining. There is so much about the movie that is theoretically awesome, like the kraken or sand demons or Conan's childhood being 75% more metal than in the first Schwarzenegger movie. But it all looks more like the second Schwarzenegger movie, very cheap in places and the editing is terrible. Shame about the great casting.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:34
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Gatts posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdxDXoODKN8 Finally a documentary about Russell Crowe.
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Aug 18, 2020 15:34
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Lid posted:I haven't seen it but from what i've heard the directors cut of KoH is meant to be one of the best films of the 21st century and should be in the same conversation as things like The New World, There Will Be Blood and other epics. I haven't seen it partially because of that level of praise and the original was so poor it makes me side eye it. I don't know if it's one of the best films of the century, but it's extremely good and like 100x better than the theatrical version. A lot of stuff that feels idiotic or out of nowhere in the theatrical version also makes a lot more sense when the characters are actually developed enough/given enough background that you can follow why who is doing what too. Like in the theatrical Orlando Bloom just like, out of nowhere personally invents anti-siege weaponry towards the end in like a week. In the director's cut it's more clear that he was literally a wartime engineer and working on Jerusalem's infrastructure longterm in general is like why he was being recruited in the first place, which he attempts to do some good with earlier with setting up better water circulation and stuff. Like it just feels much more coherent and focused. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Aug 18, 2020 15:40
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Rageaholic posted:
Russell Crowe stops his abuse and pledges to recognize his toxic masculinity and makes amends with his victims, promising to become a better person if that's literally the ending I'm going to howl with laughter
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Aug 18, 2020 15:41
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Aug 18, 2020 15:42
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:Imo, brad pitt and especially eric bana do great work on troy. Troy was in a weird netherworld of not being fantastical enough, and not being real enough. The best parts was the wrestling scrimmages. Also it should have ended like the Illiad. gently caress that revisionist appendage poo poo tacked on about Paris killing Achilles. Historical fan fic e:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4CCmPXgeSo loving dreck! Shageletic fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Aug 18, 2020 15:47
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Codependent Poster posted:Neither one of them could pull off the John Candy role. I can't think of any actor who could do that. Kevin Hart: Hey man what are you doing? I sell shower rings man! Isn't that crazy!!!! Iron Crowned posted:
Bad Boys 3 made 419 million dollars. Somehow. e: lol its the highest grossing movie of 2020 Shageletic fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Aug 18, 2020 16:02
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Fartbox posted:Why does it always have to be prequels? Can't we move on instead. Lets follow some hobbit or ranger through the aftermath of LOTR. There are still orcs and monsters and trolls and wizards and politics and evil nations around to build conflict around I'm not a fan of prequels, but I also don't think it's a great idea to make sequels to things which already had a conclusive ending. Has there ever been a good movie or book like that? For example, the Star Wars sequels (in addition to other flaws), suffered partly because it's not very satisfying to follow up "they lived happily ever after" with "actually, a bunch of other bad stuff happened and the original characters didn't solve much of anything". Stuff like Mad Max works because the earlier movies had more of a western-style self-contained story without any big conclusive ending, and the new movie basically just continues that tradition. I'd rather they just make new properties entirely. If they feel like adapting stuff, there's tons of other books they could adapt. DorianGravy fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Aug 18, 2020 16:36
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The MSJ posted:More specifically no one wants to write a sequel to one of the most important works of literature of all time so they are adapting the stuff that was already written in the supplementary material to the main trilogy and The Hobbit. Especially as Tolkien himself tried and wrote like two chapters before realising it was poo poo and tossing it in the bin. I have some hope that Amazon's show will be good though. The Second Age setting means that they can pick and choose which of the main events they might want to include, or just make up their own stories altogether. For reference the Second Age is thousands of years before the events of the Hobbit & LoTR (late Third Age).
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Aug 18, 2020 17:04
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I honestly thought it was a LOTR remake. So is it more accurately a Simarillion show in which case...how did they get the rights from Tolkien jr
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Aug 18, 2020 17:05
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Shageletic posted:Troy was in a weird netherworld of not being fantastical enough, and not being real enough. I'll never understand the drive to adapt mythology but cut out all the..well, mythology.
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Aug 18, 2020 17:06
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Alan Smithee posted:I honestly thought it was a LOTR remake. So is it more accurately a Simarillion show in which case...how did they get the rights from Tolkien jr
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Aug 18, 2020 17:22
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Alan Smithee posted:I honestly thought it was a LOTR remake. So is it more accurately a Simarillion show in which case...how did they get the rights from Tolkien jr Hahaha no. They don't have the rights to the Silmarillion. Or the Unfinished Tales. So it's just pulling something out of their asses whole-cloth from the LOTR appendices.
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Aug 18, 2020 17:35
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Byzantine posted:I'll never understand the drive to adapt mythology but cut out all the..well, mythology. It can be interesting if the supernatural/fantastical stuff is explained in an interesting way and not just excised. A Dream of Eagles was a great series that made everything about the Arthurian legend "real", like it was historical fiction.
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Aug 18, 2020 17:46
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quote:At the start of March 2019, Amazon revealed that the series would be set in the Second Age of Middle-earth, thousands of years before the story of The Lord of the Rings. Shippey explained that the series was not allowed to contradict anything that Tolkien had written about the Second Age and would have to follow the broad strokes of his narrative, with the Tolkien Estate prepared to veto any such changes, but Amazon was free to add characters or details to fill in the gaps between Tolkien's works. Hmm yes. Love to pay $250m for the rights to make up my own characters set in a time period that fans of the original books probably don't care about at all.
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Aug 18, 2020 18:19
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But how could it go wrong with such heavy-hitting talent behind the scenes with showrunners like, uh... a couple of uncredited writers for Star Trek Beyond and literally nothing else? But don't worry, they're being consulted by one of the guys who wrote some Game of Thrones episodes that some people liked!
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Aug 18, 2020 18:44
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MrBling posted:Hmm yes. Love to pay $250m for the rights to make up my own characters set in a time period that fans of the original books probably don't care about at all. Don't underestimate the value of the brand. Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them was based on a fake guidebook, it's set decades before the Harry Potter books and the only character from the original books that shows up is Dumbledore (and only appears in a cameo). And yet it made bank.
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Aug 18, 2020 19:03
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Fartbox posted:Why does it always have to be prequels? Can't we move on instead. Lets follow some hobbit or ranger through the aftermath of LOTR. There are still orcs and monsters and trolls and wizards and politics and evil nations around to build conflict around How could you even write a sequel to LotR? Sauron was specifically the last major force of evil in the world, every magical creature is leaving Middle-Earth or hiding so deep that they vanish from sight, Smaug was the last dragon and he was killed in the Hobbit, Shelob is slowly dying of a mortal wound, Gandalf is the only wizard left and he's on a boat to eternity and the orcs are described as losing all willpower and is just wandering aimlessly around. There just isn't that much to make a story of. Iron Crowned posted:I am not sure exactly why Will Smith still has the Hollywood capital he had back in the 90's though, because he's, been in nothing but bombs for a while. Alhazred fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Aug 18, 2020 19:09
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Alhazred posted:How could you even write a sequel to LotR? Sauron was specifically the last major force of evil in the world, every magical creature is leaving Middle-Earth or hiding so deep that they vanish from sight, Smaug was the last dragon and he was killed in the Hobbit, Shelob is slowly dying of a mortal wound, Gandalf is the only wizard left and he's on a boat to eternity and the orcs are described as losing all willpower and is just wandering aimlessly around. There just isn't that much to make a story of. There was another ring, a proto-ring that he only put some of his evil into. He possesses his armor, which possesses whoever wears it. The Eye of Sauron? Don't eyes usually come in pairs? There's a second Eye of Sauron. He cloned himself and has a secret granddaughter running around somewhere.
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Aug 18, 2020 19:38
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Seeing as Tolkien saw LOTR as a mythic origin story for Britain, you just keep churning out sequels until it matches up with history. Just make it a series of films about how man wipes all the other species out or sends them into hiding because we're a bunch of bastards. When they run out of hobbits and dwarves and ents to kill, that's when they start looking to other lands and it becomes a series about the East India Company.
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Aug 18, 2020 19:40
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It should also be mentioned that Christopher Tolkien absolutely loathed the rampant commercialization that followed in the wake of the Jackson films and was very stringent when it came to handling the rights to all the other stuff. That might change now that he’s passed away but for now at least it sounds like they’re holding on tight to the silmarillion.
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Aug 18, 2020 19:42
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A tv series about lotr should probably be like The Mandalorian (for star wars). Just way smaller in scale, following a handful of characters through the world and getting into minor adventures
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Aug 18, 2020 19:50
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Fartbox posted:A tv series about lotr should probably be like The Mandalorian (for star wars). So you’re saying they should make a show about Tom Bombadil
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Aug 18, 2020 19:54
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Fartbox posted:Just way smaller in scale, following a handful of characters through the world and getting into minor adventures I mean, I've been waiting for anyone to do the low-stakes, straightforward band of adventurers concept as a TV series. The Witcher is about the closest we've gotten to a decent try.
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Aug 18, 2020 19:58
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feedmyleg posted:Seeing as Tolkien saw LOTR as a mythic origin story for Britain, you just keep churning out sequels until it matches up with history. Just make it a series of films about how man wipes all the other species out or sends them into hiding because we're a bunch of bastards. When they run out of hobbits and dwarves and ents to kill, that's when they start looking to other lands and it becomes a series about the East India Company. I'm not saying it wouldn't be good or interesting, but a film that's basically fantasy holocaust would be a very hard sell.
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Aug 18, 2020 20:02
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Davros1 posted:There was another ring, a proto-ring that he only put some of his evil into. An evil dude tries to breed new dragons. An evil dude tries to resurrect Sauron, the Witchking etc. An evil dude tries to teach orcs how to be evil again. An evil dude trying to become a wizard. Or an evil female dude.
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Aug 18, 2020 20:13
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Alhazred posted:Don't underestimate the value of the brand. Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them was based on a fake guidebook, it's set decades before the Harry Potter books and the only character from the original books that shows up is Dumbledore (and only appears in a cameo). And yet it made bank. I mean, it made bank but it also seems to be a franchise thats dead in the water.
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Aug 18, 2020 20:16
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PriorMarcus posted:I mean, it made bank but it also seems to be a franchise thats dead in the water. That's more to do with that it has become impossible to sell anything related to J.K.Rowling.
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Aug 18, 2020 20:23
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feedmyleg posted:Seeing as Tolkien saw LOTR as a mythic origin story for Britain, you just keep churning out sequels until it matches up with history. It'd just keep creeping more and more into Arthurian legend while doing that as well
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Alhazred posted:That's more to do with that it has become impossible to sell anything related to J.K.Rowling. I seriously doubt Rowling’s antics are going to effectively impact the sales of the HP franchise, as unjust as that is. It’s probably more likely future films will be affected by how much of a disaster The Crimes of Grindelwald was.
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