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In the 70s Viscount made a batch of bad aluminum forks pinned to steel steerers that failed spectacularly (people losing all of their loving teeth etc). But other than having a harsh ride I don't think fear of modern aluminum forks exploding is founded. Knowing all that I would still prefer a steel fork. Not sure why Trek would want to switch it up.quote:The "Death Fork"
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^^^^^^ Probably cheaper. The Wiggly Wizard posted:Trek still makes a 520 model and a 520 disc now. Framesets and complete A modern 520 will be way different than a 83 520 though.
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I built up a 60cm '82 Trek 720 and I use it for light touring in Wisconsin. All of the components are modern. It's a really cool bike and I love riding it, but it sure isn't stiff. I don't do four panniers, just two rear, a tent on top of the rear rack, and a rando bag up front.  I have limited experience with Surlys, but my impression is that they're overbuilt and the frame characteristics really aren't comparable to an 80s Reynolds 531 bike.
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The chain stays of a LHT completely disprove the idea of surly frames being overbuilt lol. They crush like a beer can.
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Bottom Liner posted:The chain stays of a LHT completely disprove the idea of surly frames being overbuilt lol. They crush like a beer can. Pics?
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Are you referring to the LHT chainstays crushing when people use kickstands they specifically tell you not to use?
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nm posted:Are you referring to the LHT chainstays crushing when people use kickstands they specifically tell you not to use? Yeah I’m saying that’s a good example of them not overbuilding, not that their frames aren’t robust where needed. I have owned and loved 4 surlys.
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Bottom Liner posted:Yeah I’m saying that’s a good example of them not overbuilding, not that their frames aren’t robust where needed. I have owned and loved 4 surlys. Surly now sells a plate that fixes the issue. I do suspect the Salsa Marrakesh might be made out of slightly better steel that the LHT. It also has adjustable dropouts, which might help make the bike more sporty unloaded and stable loaded if you adjust them. That said, honestly, frame only, if you're shopping a Maxway steel touring frame (QBP, Merry/Soma, Trek, Jamis, basically everything else), I'd shop on fit first and then braze-ons, tire/wheel size, and axle. Oh and paint. The fact that Salsa doesn't sell the Marrakesh frame only in black and not the really nice blue on the brooks version. The disc trucker is now a flat mount if that matters to anyone. nm fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Aug 16, 2020 |
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Hey new touring thread! My bike touring experience is fairly limited, but i've done a few weekend trips and really enjoyed them all. Earlier this year the girlfriend and I were pretty seriously considering doing the Eurovelo 15 (Rhine River) route in the fall, but due to COVID and various other things shaking up our year it didn't materialise. Definitely hoping to do something like that next year though. We also had plans with some friends to do some long weekends biking around the Netherlands & Belgium, but that fell through as well since they weren't able to fly out here from the US for obvious reasons.  Anyway that's enough about trips that didn't happen, what I have actually done is quite a few weekends on the Capital Trail in Virginia, camping down around Williamsburg, and coming back up. The first time I did this was Summer 2018, completely out of shape, on a borrowed carbon road bike, and with everything in a backpack. Immediately after returning from that trip I bought a rack and panniers, and the next time we did it a few weeks later it was a much more pleasant experience. Then last summer I went with the same group of friends and we did a 3 day trip camping around the Outer Banks in NC which was a blast. This is the kind of trip I definitely want to try to do more of. My friends bike I borrowed on our first overnight trip. Very attractive photo with my sweaty gross bib thrown over it, I know. When we arrived in the campsite and I got off the bike and lifted it a little bit the back wheel dropped out of the frame entirely, apparently the quick release wasn't nearly tight enough and I was riding on it all day like that....  Shortly after that trip got my own bike again, and some proper bags...  Getting ready in a motel parking lot in OBX to start our 3 days of camping. Right after we pulled out of the parking lot it dumped rain on us for about the first hour, but then dried out and the rest of the weekend was great.  Much prettier blue skies on days 2 & 3.   My load for the weekend on one of the ferries we took.  I'd like to at least do *something* this year since our big Eurovelo dreams didn't end up happening.... We're currently living in The Netherlands and my girlfriend's company recently opened an office in Cologne that she needs to visit a few times in the coming months. I'm thinking I may try to take a long weekend and bike down to Cologne to meet her during one of her trips, then spend a weekend biking on some gravel and old fire roads/train tracks in Eifel about an hour away. Next year we can hopefully plan some more exciting trips and explore the world of bike touring a little more.
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The eurovelo system is so cool and I'm very jealous the US doesn't have anything close
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i say swears online posted:The eurovelo system is so cool and I'm very jealous the US doesn't have anything close It's called the interstate, quit being a sissy
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Fart Car '97 posted:It's called the interstate, quit being a sissy what's everyone's freeway protocol for exits, do you accelerate and time it while skipping across the lane or do you stop at the exit and look behind you like a child
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Jato posted:Anyway that's enough about trips that didn't happen, 
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i say swears online posted:what's everyone's freeway protocol for exits, do you accelerate and time it while skipping across the lane or do you stop at the exit and look behind you like a child I just take the lane so I don’t have to worry about crossing exits.
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i say swears online posted:what's everyone's freeway protocol for exits, do you accelerate and time it while skipping across the lane or do you stop at the exit and look behind you like a child yes
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Depends on the type of freeway. 70mph but low traffic I'll stay on the shoulder and cut across when clear. Try to avoid actually stopping, but sometimes ya gotta. 45mph and high traffic I'll merge into the lane to get across.
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Writeup of a tour from Paris to Mussoorie, India in 1972: https://ridewithgps.com/ride_reports/4601-paris-to-mussoorie-by-bicycle-part-1-fra?otu=
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kimbo305 posted:Writeup of a tour from Paris to Mussoorie, India in 1972: I started reading this with breakfast, planning to go out and ride earlyish. I'm done with breakfast and still reading. Thank you.
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Today I saw a guy who was definitely touring. He was going from Seattle to Boston.
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kimbo305 posted:Writeup of a tour from Paris to Mussoorie, India in 1972: ugh this is so cool iospace posted:Today I saw a guy who was definitely touring. He was going from Seattle to Boston. i should have done this earlier in the thread but i follow Hitch on twitch: https://twitch.tv/hitch he usually hitchhikes but covid pooped on his livelihood so he set out from vancouver island in june and just reached quebec
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I'm going to be building up my Crust Romanceür this weekend and I'm still on the fence about whether or not I should install the wide Velo Orange wavy fenders I originally bought for it. They're beautiful, but IDK if they're really necessary and I wonder if I'll just find them to be a hassle.
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I mean if you're going to be doing touring when it is raining, it's worth it. Metal fenders, once adjusted, are a bit less of a pain in the rear end about getting. out of alignment than plastic fenders. I'd only not do it if you're only fair weather touring or if you're doing a lot of non-paved roads as fenders can gum up the works there.
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What are you gonna do, return/sell them? I say spend the extra time to dial them in as part of your install. You can always detach them later really quickly.
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Yeah I'm in SoCal so rain is uncommon but I also want to travel more with my touring bikes. It's just that this one is more gravel/mud-oriented than my other touring bike. I suppose I can put them on and it should be simple to remove them later. It should be easier with this bike because I'm not doing a wired tail light and I won't have to mess around with rim brakes to get the fenders off.
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rope kid posted:I'm going to be building up my Crust Romanceür this weekend and I'm still on the fence about whether or not I should install the wide Velo Orange wavy fenders I originally bought for it. Just enjoy it without fenders for a while. Maybe January or whenever the forecast says rain.
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When touring, I had mudguards for a while but then removed them. The bag over my rear rack worked well enough for a rear pannier. It can however lead to you getting tar in your tent. Now I commute on my touring bike I'm very glad to have mudguards on.
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getting mud in between the fender and the tire is awful. i'll take the poop stripe any day (and even then like said, the back rack does a good enough job)
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The only time I really regret having fenders, other than mud, is when I travel. loving putting those fuckers on because I had to take them off for the bike box.
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i say swears online posted:getting mud in between the fender and the tire is awful. i'll take the poop stripe any day (and even then like said, the back rack does a good enough job) Didn't happen that often, but pushing my bike along mud roads where I'd get about 30m before my mudguards clogged up again and needed cleaning out was so painful. Lack of mudguards increased the range of that massively.
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I've only had to remove my mudguards once: I still think they are worth the pain-in-the-rear end effort of traveling with them unless you specifically plan to be riding on wet sticky clay. e: If you are running dynamo wiring, make sure to make use of connectors wherever your bike can come apart. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Aug 25, 2020 |
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I’ve not toured on the setup yet, but have commuted quite a bit with Dynasnaps: https://www.dyna-snap.com/ If anyone is desperate for a gimmicky quick connect system.
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Nifty idea, but those are drat pricey. I'm using some 2mm solder on banana plugs that CopperHound had. Super easy connection, and they're not much bigger than the wire after they're heatshrinked. Sets of 20 of them only run 3-4 bucks from china.
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It's the same as a regular hub in terms of building a wheel around it yes. You'll probably need slightly shorter spokes as it's probably a bit bigger than a normal hub. I've got S&S couplings and a dynohub, but given the only thing charged by the hub is my front light the regular connectors have worked just fine. They can be marginally fiddly with cold hands. Also need to be careful that you don't leave them loose so they hook onto the wheel and get yanked.
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Yeah, a custom wheel build around a dynamo is probably the best option in the US, especially if you need dynamo + disc + tubeless
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FireTora posted:Nifty idea, but those are drat pricey. I'm using some 2mm solder on banana plugs that CopperHound had. Super easy connection, and they're not much bigger than the wire after they're heatshrinked. Sets of 20 of them only run 3-4 bucks from china. I should probably get a soldering iron and do mine at some point because I have 6 or so spade connectors across 2 bikes that are just crimped + shrink tubing
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While we are on the topic of dynamo wiring: you can get a telephone handset type coil in your wire by wrapping it around a pencil then hitting it with a heat gun. I do this, so I can have a little slack around the headset.
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CopperHound posted:While we are on the topic of dynamo wiring: you can get a telephone handset type coil in your wire by wrapping it around a pencil then hitting it with a heat gun. I do this, so I can have a little slack around the headset. This is a good pro-tip.
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kimbo305 posted:I’ve not toured on the setup yet, but have commuted quite a bit with Dynasnaps:
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