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it's confusing because you're saying they're downplaying it hard. you said i am too. i don't see e+ downplaying it hard, i see them rightfully pointing out the 3rd vote on its own is not a serious thing. just because you accused them of playing it down doesn't make it so. i'm sorry that your portrayal of battling against a coordinated assault of your argument doesn't hold up to much scrutiny.
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Bifauxnen posted:I can get back to that in just a moment (unlike E+), the last half was just very easy to address quickly. okay you take that to scum chat to mull over and i'll wait.
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hambeet posted:i'm not actively trying anything. i'm engaging with you about your thing that seems to be entirely predicated on the idea that bminus would be apprehensive to call you scum and vote you on day 1. yes. i'm skeptical of that and am pressing you on it in what was originally a humourous manner because i don't really buy it and it looks like you're trying to force something here which, irony ahoy, is probably a more realistic and reliable scum tell to start building a case out of than 'the third vote'. Your engaging with me began with total nonsense about wanting to vote me for taking the game seriously, which is only my constant D1-right-out-the-gate effort town game you've seen me do on many, many occasions despite being such a mafia noob. Since then it hasn't got much better, you pull me up for ignoring this part of your post for all of the minute or two it took me to address the other half first, but were fine with ignoring what else I'd said about binus. And what am I trying to force? I cast one vote and I've responded to people like E+ and you who've responded to it in a way that suggests you don't understand. Your complete obtuseness towards all my recent posts suggest it is a willful misunderstanding.
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Aug 19, 2020 13:26
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hambeet posted:it's confusing because you're saying they're downplaying it hard. you said i am too. And I told you that "lol third vote would've been the scum vote" is not the core thing it's about. It's a fun cherry I noticed on top of the calling-him-out-for-chickening-out-of-the-vote sundae.
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Aug 19, 2020 13:28
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did imgay ever make yiff mafia?
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I made the effort to explain this to E+ too, only to be ignored twice, but ok keep going on about how scummy I am for not working three phones at once with six hands so I can simultaneously respond to every sentence of yours instead of making you wait a whole few minutes of your precious time to go in some sort of temporal order
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Aug 19, 2020 13:31
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I'll vote for whoever daddy beet tells me to vote for
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Gridlocked posted:I'll vote for whoever daddy beet tells me to vote for Wow thanks for your contribution
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Aug 19, 2020 13:35
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Bifauxnen posted:I made the effort to explain this to E+ too, only to be ignored twice, but ok keep going on about how scummy I am for not working three phones at once with six hands so I can simultaneously respond to every sentence of yours instead of making you wait a whole few minutes of your precious time to go in some sort of temporal order rattle rattle
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Aug 19, 2020 13:37
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hambeet posted:rattle rattle 
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DGK2000 posted:Come on son, you know better from last game. Lol dgk and bif scumbuddies comfirmed ##vote dgk
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Aug 19, 2020 13:51
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Bifauxnen posted:Your engaging with me began with total nonsense about wanting to vote me for taking the game seriously, which is only my constant D1-right-out-the-gate effort town game you've seen me do on many, many occasions despite being such a mafia noob. Bifauxnen posted:And I told you that "lol third vote would've been the scum vote" is not the core thing it's about. It's a fun cherry I noticed on top of the calling-him-out-for-chickening-out-of-the-vote sundae. hmmm. Bifauxnen posted:Holding back from the third vote are we, coward Bifauxnen posted:I do think I could be on to something with binus bothering to call me scummy but not wanting to drop a vote, possibly because it woulda been the third vote. [quote="Bifauxnen" post="507374681"] It's obviously not a hard and fast rule, making it sound like a law of mafia is a joke, but it does vaguely sum up a genuine principle. Once you start actually piling a few votes on people, it passes from looking like just jokephase to causing actual consequences now, of making someone look like a serious lunch candidate. The third vote or so is a pretty good place for scum to start coming in, if they want a mislunch to take off. Cast the first vote on someone and you might take all the blame for sticking your neck out and making a bad case. Cast the second vote and you might look too me-too. But once someone else has already done the me-too, it's not quite as scary anymore. It's now an approved idea that's passed some scrutiny and has more than one oddball townie on board. No, I don't think binus probably sat there literally counting the votes, but he bothered to pick out that post of mine and call it pretty scummy, in a way that had no joke attached that I could see. So why not vote, if it was serious? [/quo i don't see how, from re-reading the above, that me pointing out that your case is built on the principle of the 'third vote is scum' is me misunderstanding your case. you've said it multiple times now.
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hosed that last quote. you can all work it out.
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Aug 19, 2020 13:53
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How can you mislynch on day 1?
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Aug 19, 2020 13:56
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In ythe hambeet v Bif debate, bif looks good, hambeet looks bad.
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Aug 19, 2020 13:56
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Amnistar posted:In ythe hambeet v Bif debate, bif looks good, hambeet looks bad. 
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Aug 19, 2020 13:58
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Bifauxnen posted:I made the effort to explain this to E+ too, only to be ignored twice, but ok keep going on about how scummy I am for not working three phones at once with six hands so I can simultaneously respond to every sentence of yours instead of making you wait a whole few minutes of your precious time to go in some sort of temporal order lol and oh come on that was an obvious joke about taking it to scum chat. for someone who has gone on about others recognizing their own meta multiple times this game, you should at least be prepared for my posts.
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Aug 19, 2020 13:58
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Amnistar posted:In ythe hambeet v Bif debate, bif looks good, hambeet looks bad. lol actually no, i'd like you to elaborate as to why amni.
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Aug 19, 2020 13:59
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##vote bifauxnen I'll contribute how I wanna contribute in d1
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Amnistar posted:In ythe hambeet v Bif debate, bif looks good, hambeet looks bad. Woah, Amni’s scum ##Vote Amnistar
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Aug 19, 2020 14:01
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Scientastic posted:Woah, Amni’s scum hmmmm why sci? like what does amni's post imply about bif or my alignment?
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Aug 19, 2020 14:02
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hambeet posted:i don't see how, from re-reading the above, that me pointing out that your case is built on the principle of the 'third vote is scum' is me misunderstanding your case. you've said it multiple times now. The hilarious thing is it's not even really a case. It was a jab. He didn't vote me and it looked scummy, so I poked him to see what happened. But you and E+ are the ones who reacted to it in a more suspicious way.
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Aug 19, 2020 14:02
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Gridlocked posted:##vote bifauxnen you did good son
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Aug 19, 2020 14:03
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Bifauxnen posted:The hilarious thing is it's not even really a case. It was a jab. He didn't vote me and it looked scummy, so I poked him to see what happened. But you and E+ are the ones who reacted to it in a more suspicious way. lol nice way to avoid the point. like, it's more suspicious for us to point out it's dumb than it is for you to pretend you didn't keep saying 'third vote scum'. just like you trying to paint my posts as 'unwillfully misunderstanding' and 'downplaying it hard'. okay bif. super townie.
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hambeet posted:lol nice way to avoid the point. like, it's more suspicious for us to point out it's dumb than it is for you to pretend you didn't keep saying 'third vote scum'. just like you trying to paint my posts as 'unwillfully misunderstanding' and 'downplaying it hard'. okay bif. super townie. Well I got onto an interesting mafia game theory digression, so sue me. I explained how the "third vote scum" thing, despite being a silly rule that can't be actual literal proof of anything, is at least inspired by a more genuine principle of trying to analyse when people want to get in on votes and why. But I concluded by explaining that the whole reason I brought it up because I thought binus was backing off from voting.
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Aug 19, 2020 14:10
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Yeah I think beet's making way too much of way too little here
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Bifauxnen posted:Well I got onto an interesting mafia game theory digression, so sue me. I explained how the "third vote scum" thing, despite being a silly rule that can't be actual literal proof of anything, is at least inspired by a more genuine principle of trying to analyse when people want to get in on votes and why. But I concluded by explaining that the whole reason I brought it up because I thought binus was backing off from voting. for me it's not the digression, it's the 'everyone who disagrees with me is suss' and 'you're just deliberately misunderstanding me' even though i'm clearly not, that bothers me most.
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Rarity posted:Yeah I think beet's making way too much of way too little here eh, i've got an excellent track record bagging bif as scum 
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better than gaspy. speaking of which..
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hambeet posted:hmmmm why sci? It makes an implication in a faux nonchalant style without a bona fide algniment call, I hate it
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In fact, I’ve just had a read of Amni’s posts, and it all looks conspicuously terrible
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I’m on a train at the moment and can’t really face phoneposting my analyses of his awful posting, but I will do so when I get home later
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Ok maybe you just honestly misunderstood. And this:hambeet posted:yes binus is scum because he would be the third vote. very serious town play. Was your honest interpretation,that I only thought binus is scum because of the most literal interpretation possible that he would've been the third vote. You pointed out how I said it in my first jab at binus but you ignore the meat of it. When I called him a coward. "Too scared to drop the third vote, coward?" Doesn't mean "ok everyone I have now deduced binus is scum through mafia phrenology" it means "hey it's early D1 but you look like scum,are you gonna flinch, scum?"
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hambeet posted:lol Bif reads as geniune in their stance. You come across as someone that thinks you've found something and aren't actually interested in any of the responses given. I see this back and forth as scum hambeet seeing a wedge that can be driven and town bif trying to explain why that wedge is dumb and being ignored.
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Bifauxnen posted:Here,read it this time Counterpoint: you are one of the few players who will tunnel someone very hard on D1, so particularly in a game this size, scum have much better low-hanging fruit they can go after on D1.
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SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:did imgay ever make yiff mafia? Modkill this filth.
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tpink posted:Counterpoint: you are one of the few players who will tunnel someone very hard on D1, so particularly in a game this size, scum have much better low-hanging fruit they can go after on D1. Are you trying to suggest scum wouldn't bother trying to tangle with me? That sure never applies to beet.
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Amnistar posted:In ythe hambeet v Bif debate, bif looks good, hambeet looks bad. Agree to disagree.
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Scientastic posted:In fact, I’ve just had a read of Amni’s posts, and it all looks conspicuously terrible I eagerly await your analysis! You have waited long enough for it not to look like an OMGUS.
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Amnistar posted:In ythe hambeet v Bif debate, bif looks good, hambeet looks bad. This except the other way around
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