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Also, in case it's unclear, because I know people are gonna make comments about being unclear in opinions: I think Sci is scum and I caught them in a deliberate scumslip, so I'm not moving my vote until it is clear they are not an option. I think Hambeet is scum, would vote for them. I think Rarity might be scum, but it's a weak read right now. I think Bif is town. That is my reads right now.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:44 |
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Bifauxnen posted:Are you trying to suggest scum wouldn't bother trying to tangle with me? That sure never applies to beet. No. I’m saying that in a game with 18 players, if I am scum, there’s like 5+ targets I would go after on day 1 rather than try to engage with the one poster who thrives on D1 analysis and will try to take apart everything I say (like what you’re doing with beet now). I don’t know what your past history with him is. I’m just telling you what I would or would not do in that hypothetical situation.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:44 |
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b-minus1 posted:This except the other way around Lol Scum shook
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:44 |
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Bifauxnen posted:Ok maybe you just honestly misunderstood. And this: no bif. i do not think that. i prodded you on what half of your 'jab' was, as you did repeatedly refer to the coincidence of him being concerned about shading you but not voting as 'dropping the third vote', because it would have been the third vote. and then when i prodded you on it in a dry way, as you quoted and i highlighted earlier, you reacted. i've pointed out that you've pushed back on people who disagree with you as being suspicious. then you were saying that i'm deliberately misunderstanding you. it looks like you're trying very hard to shade me (and i guess epsilon) as well as paint my posts as very negative. i don't really see you as trying to determine my alignment. to me it looks like you're just trying to shade me as being suss because i didn't agree with your theory / jab / case.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:44 |
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tpink posted:No. I’m saying that in a game with 18 players, if I am scum, there’s like 5+ targets I would go after on day 1 rather than try to engage with the one poster who thrives on D1 analysis and will try to take apart everything I say (like what you’re doing with beet now). I don’t know what your past history with him is. I’m just telling you what I would or would not do in that hypothetical situation. So..you *are* saying that scum wouldn't want to tangle with Bif day 1, because there are easier targets.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:45 |
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Amnistar posted:Also, in case it's unclear, because I know people are gonna make comments about being unclear in opinions: On Sci, I think that vig thing would have been an incredibly dumb scum slip so I dunno. Seems somewhat unlikely.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:47 |
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Amnistar posted:Bif reads as geniune in their stance. You come across as someone that thinks you've found something and aren't actually interested in any of the responses given. I see this back and forth as scum hambeet seeing a wedge that can be driven and town bif trying to explain why that wedge is dumb and being ignored. lol. i'm not interested in their responses?! yet have responded to nearly each and every one. ironically, i don't think you are paying attention. are you just trying to find someone to jump onto to polarise and hope it takes off? you picked the wrong horse bucko.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:47 |
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tpink posted:On Sci, I think that vig thing would have been an incredibly dumb scum slip so I dunno. Seems somewhat unlikely. Accidentally yes, but I think it's intentional so Sci can be a smug bug at the end of the game and I refuse to let them have that.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:47 |
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Bifauxnen posted:Are you trying to suggest scum wouldn't bother trying to tangle with me? That sure never applies to beet. this is also true
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:48 |
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Amnistar posted:So..you *are* saying that scum wouldn't want to tangle with Bif day 1, because there are easier targets. Maybe I misunderstood Bif’s post - basically yes, which is part of why I tend to think beet isn’t scum.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:48 |
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hambeet posted:lol. i'm not interested in their responses?! yet have responded to nearly each and every one. Maybe "not interested" isn't the right phrasing then. You don't care about any answer given as an explanation. You are engaging to make Bif look bad, not because you think bif is scum. Basically, I read Bif as genuine and you as not genuine in the engagement.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:49 |
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Amnistar posted:I think Sci is scum and I caught them in a deliberate scumslip, so I'm not moving my vote until it is clear they are not an option. Please can you explain this again cause I didn't see it at the time and I still don't now
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:49 |
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Rarity posted:Please can you explain this again cause I didn't see it at the time and I still don't now When I read the post I read it as "Before I read my role pm I could have had a dayvig or a non-dayvig (i.e. nightvig) and now I *definately* don't have a dayvig *wink wink*"
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:50 |
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I wish I had a dayvig as opposed to my current form of vig which is nightkills for my team which is myself, Harold Krell, Infinitum, and Anpu.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:52 |
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Amnistar posted:Maybe "not interested" isn't the right phrasing then. You don't care about any answer given as an explanation. You are engaging to make Bif look bad, not because you think bif is scum. no i'm engaging bif because her argument didn't make sense, her response to people picking at it doesn't make sense nor does it seem townie and the way she keeps trying to throw shade on my pushing her is super suss. so what would you call that amni? in your own words.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:52 |
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hambeet posted:no bif. i do not think that. I'm not trying to determine your alignment?I've been investing a lot of effort to actually explain my position to you beet, as if it might be possible for that action to have a point to it. When I try my best to spell things out in as much detail as possible, despite that probably only making everyone else just get more fed up with my interminable posts, and you sit there still stubbornly going "nuh-uh", drat well I'm going to see it like you're approaching me in bad faith. And you frame it as me just suspecting anyone who disagrees with me but guess what, I haven't got to find out yet if E+ still disagrees with me, cause I tried to ask him if he had any more thoughts after my big post and he buggered off.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:52 |
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It's pretty clearly playing off his previous post though?Scientastic posted:I am currently Schrödinger’s dayvig Scientastic posted:Disappointing to say, I collapsed the dayvig waveform and have gone from both dayvig and non-dayvig at the same time to definitely not a dayvig So are you saying that Sci accidentally let on he has a nightvig or that he is purposefully breadcrumbing a nightvig?
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:53 |
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hambeet posted:no i'm engaging bif because her argument didn't make sense, her response to people picking at it doesn't make sense nor does it seem townie and the way she keeps trying to throw shade on my pushing her is super suss. Exccept her arguement does make sense. Which is why I don't think you're being genuine, I think you're being deliberately obtuse to push a narrative.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:53 |
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I mean it’s literally the equivalent of posting “I have a night kill.” I don’t disagree that that’s a possible way of reading his post. I just refuse to believe that any scum would be dumb enough to post that. Again, maybe there’s some weird meta read going on where you are convinced that he just couldn’t help leaving that crumb to gloat later, but without knowing that meta, it seems far-fetched.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:53 |
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Amnistar posted:Also, in case it's unclear, because I know people are gonna make comments about being unclear in opinions: lol the sci scum slip is dumb. and what's your read on rarity. it's weak, but what is it? stop saying these random things.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:53 |
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Mr. Humalong posted:I wish I had a dayvig as opposed to my current form of vig which is nightkills for my team which is myself, Harold Krell, Infinitum, and Anpu. Need some Lumpen in there to really make it spicy
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:54 |
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Rarity posted:It's pretty clearly playing off his previous post though? I think Sci deliberately said "non-dayvig" instead of "no dayvig" not as a breadcrumb to be found but as something to point at after game and say "See look, I told you I was scum!"
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:54 |
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hambeet posted:lol the sci scum slip is dumb. and what's your read on rarity. it's weak, but what is it? I think rarity is scum? That's the read? I'm not sure what you want beyond that. If you want reasoning, it's not very fleshed out. The content game bit, and how they're posting a lot, but mostly noise early in the day is probably what has me suspicious of them.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:55 |
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Yeah I'm not buying the scum-crumb idea either, sorry Amni
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:56 |
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tpink posted:I mean it’s literally the equivalent of posting “I have a night kill.” I don’t disagree that that’s a possible way of reading his post. I just refuse to believe that any scum would be dumb enough to post that. Again, maybe there’s some weird meta read going on where you are convinced that he just couldn’t help leaving that crumb to gloat later, but without knowing that meta, it seems far-fetched. I'll freely admit it's not a read I expect anyone else to buy into. I'm not expecting to convince people Sci is scum based on that. I am refusing to let Sci get away with what I see as a gloat post.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:57 |
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Bifauxnen posted:I'm not trying to determine your alignment?I've been investing a lot of effort to actually explain my position to you beet, as if it might be possible for that action to have a point to it. hey bif, you've spent a lot of posts saying i am misunderstanding you, so when i actually explain it and you don't confirm whether or not i was right and go onto some of the other poo poo i posted about... well you can see why i have a problem with your posts, yeah?
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:57 |
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Rarity posted:Need some Lumpen in there to really make it spicy Lumpen is the serial killer
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 14:59 |
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Amnistar posted:I think Sci deliberately said "non-dayvig" instead of "no dayvig" not as a breadcrumb to be found but as something to point at after game and say "See look, I told you I was scum!" So he set up the dayvig joke on purpose just so he could breadcrumb a scum claim to mock us all for later?
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:00 |
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Rarity posted:So he set up the dayvig joke on purpose just so he could breadcrumb a scum claim to mock us all for later? That is what I believe yes.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:01 |
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Amnistar posted:Exccept her arguement does make sense. Which is why I don't think you're being genuine, I think you're being deliberately obtuse to push a narrative. okay sorry, you are 100% right. i didn't phrase that correctly. i've only phrased it that way when i just responded to you, then though, never to bif. to bif i've pointed out solely that i disagree with her 'jab'. so can you try again to explain how i am engaging with her to make her look bad? spoilers: my argument would be that she's doing a fine job of that herself.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:02 |
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hambeet posted:hey bif, you've spent a lot of posts saying i am misunderstanding you, so when i actually explain it and you don't confirm whether or not i was right and go onto some of the other poo poo i posted about... well you can see why i have a problem with your posts, yeah? Whether or not you were right? About what? That I mentioned third votes a lot? Ok I did. Definitely too much to keep the message on point apparently, but that wasn't exactly at the forefront of my mind when I'm just trying to make a zing on someone sound cool and then wait to see what happens.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:02 |
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Amnistar posted:That is what I believe yes. The Schrodinger's dayvig post was at 7:23 am BST. Sci joined the discord 7:35 am BST. How does this fit your theory?
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:03 |
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Bifauxnen posted:Whether or not you were right? About what? That I mentioned third votes a lot? Ok I did. Definitely too much to keep the message on point apparently, but that wasn't exactly at the forefront of my mind when I'm just trying to make a zing on someone sound cool and then wait to see what happens.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:04 |
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Rarity posted:The Schrodinger's dayvig post was at 7:23 am BST. Sci joined the discord 7:35 am BST. How does this fit your theory? The other post is the one I think is the scum claim.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:06 |
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man this is a really good day 1
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:08 |
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i should have written wow. i didn't intend that to be so gender specific.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:08 |
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hambeet posted:okay sorry, you are 100% right. i didn't phrase that correctly. i've only phrased it that way when i just responded to you, then though, never to bif. to bif i've pointed out solely that i disagree with her 'jab'. I dont know how many times you want me to say it but your posts don't feel genuine, bif's do.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:10 |
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Amnistar posted:The other post is the one I think is the scum claim. You said he setup the joke on purpose so he could scum claim but he didn't know his role until after he setup the joke. How does this make any sense to you?
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:12 |
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Rarity posted:You said he setup the joke on purpose so he could scum claim but he didn't know his role until after he setup the joke. How does this make any sense to you? No, I think hw took advantage of a joke made to slip in the claim. Also, im unsure why you're pressing so hard here. I have already acknowledged that no one else is going to beleive my conspiracy theory.
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 15:15 |
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Amnistar posted:Accidentally yes, but I think it's intentional so Sci can be a smug bug at the end of the game and I refuse to let them have that. I uh... no. No. NO. It was very clearly him saying either is a dayvig or he isn't. A binary thing. And a science joke. You've latched on to something that isn't A Thing.
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