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Evil Bob posted:I think this gets to the core of my misunderstanding of emo. When I was younger I never considered the hardcore derived non commercial stuff emo, or at least ever made the connection because I felt emotion in everything I was listening to. That doesn't mean I was versed in that scene, but it just never occured to me. To me those days emo was the scene kids buying music that sounded like pop punk with the whiniest vocals I had ever heard. I don't even remember who those bands were. Rites of Spring supposedly were the 'first emo band.' And just listen to Embrace, those lyrics are so self conscious and insecure in I guess an emo sense. I don't think either really embodies would I'd consider the Emo trope. Emo I think of Braid, but also the "Screamo" variety more on the posthardcore side of things. None of it makes actual sense. In the 1990s everybody was like "Don't label me man, I'm not your product on your shelf." Remember that Fugazi song? "Stupid loving words."
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I don’t remember “emo” being a label back in the early-mid 90s. Or “post hardcore”. But a lot of my favorite bands from that era could be lumped into either category that had shouty vocalists, weird time signatures or quiet/loud shifts Braid Slint Bitch Magnet Hoover Rodan And these guys on the shirt I’m wearing Cat Hassler fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Aug 18, 2020 |
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Drive Like Jehu owns.
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# ? Aug 18, 2020 03:38 |
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i don't remember emo being a buzzword until about 2004. My favorite is "midwestern emo" to describe them being from Chicago or Kansas City or wherever.
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# ? Aug 18, 2020 06:30 |
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In the mid-late 90s Emo hate was very much a thing. Spazz has the song campaign for emo destruction (1999) Hellnation released a 5” at war with emo in 1997 I’m sure there are more those are the only two I can remember off the top of my head.
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# ? Aug 18, 2020 06:47 |
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Finch and Chevelle were emo I guess but listening to them after all these years I just hear Creed
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Keith Atherton posted:Finch and Chevelle were emo I guess but listening to them after all these years I just hear Creed You think so? Chevelle is like Puddle of Mud level fratboy 2003 poo poo. Yea like Creed. I don't know but I hold some of the old second wave emo bands in somewhat higher regard than that. They are still somewhat serious, or just ironic (I Hate Myself). Then you get to Taking Back Sunday which I guess qualifies but that's more hot topic type 14 year old poo poo, even though I still think it's pretty good.
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# ? Aug 18, 2020 08:43 |
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excellent bird guy posted:You think so? Chevelle is like Puddle of Mud level fratboy 2003 poo poo. Yea like Creed. I don't know but I hold some of the old second wave emo bands in somewhat higher regard than that. They are still somewhat serious, or just ironic (I Hate Myself). Then you get to Taking Back Sunday which I guess qualifies but that's more hot topic type 14 year old poo poo, even though I still think it's pretty good. A lot of those bands are just interchangeable to me. Like all the bands that got major label deals when Nevermind exploded. And then got hosed over and vanished. I’m not saying a band signing to a big label is necessarily a bad thing but the advance and promised future imaginary money can be super destructive to a young band
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I remember Mineral being described as emo and they were def mid 90s
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excellent bird guy posted:You think so? Chevelle is like Puddle of Mud level fratboy 2003 poo poo. Yea like Creed. I don't know but I hold some of the old second wave emo bands in somewhat higher regard than that. They are still somewhat serious, or just ironic (I Hate Myself). Then you get to Taking Back Sunday which I guess qualifies but that's more hot topic type 14 year old poo poo, even though I still think it's pretty good. This sound is what defined emo to me in my teens, and I couldn't take it. Once in a while I heard a song that caught my attention because those bands had a post hardcore sound, but in my youth i just couldn't get behind the emo style, I was heavily into punk and hardcore and to me all the stuff that sounded like taking back sunday was too commercial and too poser to me. At the same time I was introduced to CTTS, and as I have mentioned I never considered them emo. I DO see how they are lumped into that category now. But had I been introduced to more "emo" along the lines of CTTS I probably would not have piled it with what I considered emo at the time. I guess i'm a poser for not liking emo Anyway this one just popped into my brain, fun years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-3FNOeoSY4
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# ? Aug 18, 2020 16:40 |
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Been listening to too much Pile lately
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# ? Aug 18, 2020 16:51 |
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Band name Fratboy Slim
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Evil Bob posted:This sound is what defined emo to me in my teens, and I couldn't take it. Once in a while I heard a song that caught my attention because those bands had a post hardcore sound, but in my youth i just couldn't get behind the emo style, I was heavily into punk and hardcore and to me all the stuff that sounded like taking back sunday was too commercial and too poser to me. Man outbreak was on fire for a minute there. That one EP was really good. I guess ceremony came along and took over as bridge nine royalty. Also didnt help that they couldnt make anything that lived up to that one EP.
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I'll have to dig out the whole tape for this and cap it again now it's easier putting more than short crap quality clips on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du8SrbzoLMk
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albany academy posted:Man outbreak was on fire for a minute there. That one EP was really good. I guess ceremony came along and took over as bridge nine royalty. Also didnt help that they couldnt make anything that lived up to that one EP. Yeah, the Eaten Alive EP (all the bad brains covers, soo good) and You Make Us Sick were legendary when they came out. I've got love for their later albums, but when I think outbreak it's their early stuff.
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excellent bird guy posted:Rites of Spring supposedly were the 'first emo band.' Andrew eldritch claims to be "not goth", but everyone else knows the truth.
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EL BROMANCE posted:I'll have to dig out the whole tape for this and cap it again now it's easier putting more than short crap quality clips on YouTube Hahaha man, good times. Saw Ceremony play in Portland last year for the first time in years. They played mostly Violence and Ronhert Park and the dog piles and pits were wild... took me way back.
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Evil Bob posted:Yeah, the Eaten Alive EP (all the bad brains covers, soo good) and You Make Us Sick were legendary when they came out. I've got love for their later albums, but when I think outbreak it's their early stuff. you might like hostage situation? only one release and the vocalist from weekend nachos does bass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewnxgi_U3VE
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albany academy posted:you might like hostage situation? only one release and the vocalist from weekend nachos does bass. Yeah that sounds like me. Circle pits and two step breakdowns please.
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Alright I was about to post a Torso track, but this came on when the EP was over and holy poo poo. First time hearing Ratcage. 2020 hardcore punk from the UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SkHmbawn4c Nice to hear music like this coming out in 2020 from a band I've never heard before.
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Quantum Shart posted:I remember Mineral being described as emo and they were def mid 90s Mineral is top tier, one of the best. Both albums, the first one is harder and the second more restrained. I also liked The Frog Queen or whatever it was, solo album from SDRE guy. The first SDRE is a little played out, having listened to it so much. Sad music just sounds so good for some reason.
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Evil Bob posted:Alright I was about to post a Torso track, but this came on when the EP was over and holy poo poo. Check out the rest of la vida es un mus, some really good releases on there. Did you ever listen to arms race?
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albany academy posted:Check out the rest of la vida es un mus, some really good releases on there. Did you ever listen to arms race? The name sounds familiar but I can't say I have. Love finding new labels to check out, thanks for the rec.
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Gerad from Planes Mistaken For Stars has stage three esophagus cancer https://www.gofundme.com/f/gared-o039donnell?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet
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Bummer
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 18:14 |
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I guess the Bass player of The Nerve Agents said some dumb racist poo poo, which the band posted a statement about disavowing him and the comments. Also stated they wouldn't be moving forward with a 20 year reissue of Days of the White Owl, which sucks, and definitely destroying any chance of a lil reunion tour or show (as unlikely as it may have been.) Consider me bummed, one of my all time favorite bands, and one that shaped my musical interests and influence when I was young... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ0E4hb94ik&t=791s
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# ? Aug 19, 2020 18:51 |
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drat. RVIVR is such a good band. More pop-punk bands need dual vocalists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDQTp8zoVhw
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# ? Aug 20, 2020 03:19 |
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I have a rvivr shirt. It is the one with the house and the skull and I wear it all the time and people are always like "that's a cool shirt" and then I start talking about latterman and then I'm like "oh yeah, you aren't a huge dork" and then we just talk about the weather for a bit and I keep walking E: not to say you are a dork just saying I like this band a lot and I should probably move somewhere cooler like Olympia, WA caleb fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Aug 20, 2020 |
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caleb posted:I have a rvivr shirt. It is the one with the house and the skull and I wear it all the time and people are always like "that's a cool shirt" and then I start talking about latterman and then I'm like "oh yeah, you aren't a huge dork" and then we just talk about the weather for a bit and I keep walking I am an absolute dork but I'm now realizing I somehow never really listened to Latterman which I should fix.
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Queer Salutations posted:I am an absolute dork but I'm now realizing I somehow never really listened to Latterman which I should fix. It doesn't have the cool back and forth aspect that rvivr has but it rips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igdOOEdBmYo
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# ? Aug 21, 2020 08:07 |
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I dunno if it fits here or not but just posting to say the new Bright Eyes album Down In The Weeds, Where The World Once Was is real good and Conor's an enchanting lyricist.
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# ? Aug 26, 2020 17:50 |
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Hmm I slept on War on Women. Fully digging both of their albums. Awesome they were released on B9 too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGGH6NEFkYM I just want to go wild at a show so bad.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 16:30 |
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All these mentions of emo bands and no one said Cap'n Jazz...
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 23:41 |
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Guess I'm on a female vocalist kick right now Seriously can't get enough of this acoustic version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPQgj9XIGvE And some pop punk doing me well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxRKbExii28
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# ? Aug 28, 2020 15:41 |
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Low Dose is real good if you're in that mood OP https://lowdosephilly.bandcamp.com/album/low-dose
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Weaponized Cum posted:Low Dose is real good if you're in that mood OP https://lowdosephilly.bandcamp.com/album/low-dose Nice rec. On the first track and this is very my style.
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# ? Aug 28, 2020 16:09 |
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Ferrule posted:All these mentions of emo bands and no one said Cap'n Jazz... Cap’n Jazz is one of the all time greats. I know that lots and lots of bands follow in their footsteps and go for that manic fancy energy but to my ears no one ever hits the same as the Cap’n. They also have, conveniently, a greatest hits record that IIRC is just their entire didcorgraphy of 1:50 and 2:14 minute long songs, it’s like oh never mind here u go https://capnjazz.bandcamp.com/album/analphabetapolothology Holy poo poo this record came out when I was 10 lmao anyway poo poo slaps give them money and boogie with your buns!
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Evil Bob posted:Guess I'm on a female vocalist kick right now Definitely not in the same vein, but Svalbard's new stuff is loving great, they're really leaning into the atmospherics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrZeTRR27qI
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Evil Bob posted:Guess I'm on a female vocalist kick right now https://kittenforever.bandcamp.com https://tonypeachka.bandcamp.com https://catbath.bandcamp.com https://lifestyles.bandcamp.com
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