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is it correct that if I feel like my GPU is running too hot for my liking, but I also don't want to ramp up the fans, that the solution is to cap the FPS and/or run at lower settings, so that the GPU doesn't have to work as hard, assuming I don't mind running 30 FPS at Medium? anything else I could be doing?
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gradenko_2000 posted:is it correct that if I feel like my GPU is running too hot for my liking, but I also don't want to ramp up the fans, that the solution is to cap the FPS and/or run at lower settings, so that the GPU doesn't have to work as hard, assuming I don't mind running 30 FPS at Medium? Are you still running a 580? I'm guessing it's one of the cheaper models that struggle with the 185W TDP, like my lovely Asus Dual does. Here are my settings that got noise under control, maybe it'll help. Just lob 100mV off the higher power states, and drag the power slider to -25 to -30%  If it's still real bad at -30% you might have a serious airflow problem, or need to repaste the card. sauer kraut fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Aug 21, 2020 |
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Aug 21, 2020 12:16
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Yeah, undervolting and repasting are both worth a shot.
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HERAK posted:This is true but how many households might not classify a new game console, possibly the main source of media and entertainment for 5 or so years, as discretionary ? Maybe if the PS5 had come out at the beginnning of Quarantine with the big fat 1400 check.
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Aug 21, 2020 12:27
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Craptacular! posted:The reasons to not go Linux only are not related to Nvidia. They're related to anti-cheat kmods. Speaking of, someone figured out how to get GeForce Now to run and made a Lutris install script. i don't think any games i still play feature lovely anticheats so i'm ok on that front at least. SwissArmyDruid posted:Maybe if the PS5 had come out at the beginnning of Quarantine with the big fat 1400 check. yeah, $500 on entertainment might have been doable in march, today like 30 million are being threatened with eviction, no way are they gonna be buying consoles
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Aug 21, 2020 12:38
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24 GB of Vram just says to me I can install a billion more mods into a Bethesda game. Mod authors always think this gun needs 4000x4000 textures, ship it.
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Aug 21, 2020 15:43
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24GB of VRAM might be a super good CAD card for me since it'll have G-Sync, too. If only it had verified drivers for that sweet sweet real time SOLIDWORKS photorealistic rendering 
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Aug 21, 2020 15:51
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NVidia gimps Geforce for CAD. Gotta pay that Quadro tax!
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Aug 21, 2020 16:17
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https://press.crytek.com/crytek-announces-release-date-for-crysis-remastered Release date announcement for Crysis Remastered (sept 18th) also confirms DLSS support, and hardware RTX raytracing in addition to their software solution for other hardware
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Aug 21, 2020 16:19
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Truga posted:i don't think any games i still play feature lovely anticheats so i'm ok on that front at least. Same goes for video cards, people are sort of jumping the gun at the moment saying they'd gladly pay $1500-2000 for a card...forgetting exactly how many people have been affected by the pandemic (job/wage losses, no 2nd stimulus yet, no additional unemployment, etc). Unless people get some government help within like the next couple weeks tops (yeah loving right), I don't see NV selling many cards at those ridiculous prices.
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OhFunny posted:Of the consoles priced at $500 or higher the Neo Gro and 3DO are clear failures. Sony had to spend considerable time turning things around with the PS3. The Xbone has been crushed sales wise by the PS4 and recently overtaken by the Switch. $500 in 1993 is not the same as $500 in 2020. You’re forgetting to account for inflation. Internet posted:“In other words, $500 in 1993 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $896.54 in 2020, a difference of $396.54 over 27 years.” Subjunctive posted:This sort of study is a good start: https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2016/03/household-expenditures-and-income This is also a good point though. E: Holy poo poo I had an old version of the thread pulled up, my bad
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repiv posted:https://press.crytek.com/crytek-announces-release-date-for-crysis-remastered Oh, wow. That's much further than I thought. I was expecting a straight port of the console remaster. DLSS and temporal anti-aliasing on Crysis is going to be huge. Its anti-aliasing was one of the original's weak points especially with all its foliage quote:For the first time a Crytek game will feature ray tracing on Xbox One X and PlayStation 4 Pro powered by CRYENGINE’s proprietary software based ray tracing solution. If any developer could put ray tracing on legacy consoles (!) of course it's going to be Crytek. I am fascinated by the possibility of ray tracing on PS4. Zedsdeadbaby fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Aug 21, 2020 |
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BOOTY-ADE posted:Same goes for video cards, people are sort of jumping the gun at the moment saying they'd gladly pay $1500-2000 for a card...forgetting exactly how many people have been affected by the pandemic (job/wage losses, no 2nd stimulus yet, no additional unemployment, etc). Unless people get some government help within like the next couple weeks tops (yeah loving right), I don't see NV selling many cards at those ridiculous prices. I don't think it is the same crowd. As many people that are now in tough times, there are people who are still working and now have ample discretionary funds because they stopped going out and have no vacation expenses.
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It's completely 100% not the same people. That has a very good chance of changing over time as the loss in production moves job losses into the white collar sectors, but that's a problem for later. The launch itself is timed perfectly for the high end market as it currently stands. The only way it could be any better is if they dropped a stim check right on top of the launch window, which won't happen, but that's just gravy anyways.
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MikeC posted:I don't think it is the same crowd. As many people that are now in tough times, there are people who are still working and now have ample discretionary funds because they stopped going out and have no vacation expenses. Yeah. This right here is a story of how we basically have two Americas right now: we have the well-off, mostly in tech, finance, and other white-collar jobs who have been inconvenienced by the pandemic and whatnot, but otherwise are more or less just carrying on with their 401k's and shoving all that discretionary money they normally would have spent going out and partying into other purchases--like vddjya game cards. Compared to a year ago a lot of them are more willing to spend do$$ars on high-end cards because they have the spare cash to do so, and they've been stuck inside for a while and would see it as a "good" investment in the sense that they'll likely get a lot of use out of it in the near future. The other chunk of America, the factory workers, shop clerks, service industry, artists, and blue-collar jobs in general are pretty hosed. They have minimal spare money to buy GPUs and whatnot, but at the same time, this chunk of the country was probably never going to buy a $1k GPU in the first place. In another time they'd be your market for the 3060 and/or consoles, so it'll be real interesting to see what the gaming industry in general does to try not to miss out on being able to sell to that considerable slice of the consumer base. e; I mean, not to take SA as representative of anything at all, but how many people in this very thread have stated that their contention is basically between the 3090 and whatever is one step down? A $2k card might be an effort to move, but a $1500 card would probably sell straight through stock pretty quickly if it had compelling enough performance. DrDork fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Aug 21, 2020 |
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CactusWeasle posted:I am still on a GTX 1070. The only reason I didnt buy a 2070 was because 80% of my issue was running out of vram so I sure wasnt going to spend 500~ for a new card with the exact same amount, and sure as hell wasnt spending 1300~ for a Ti. So I am one of the idiots praying for a 16GB 3070 I saw a rumour (probably linked here) about a 3070ti which runs a bit better according to the benchmark, than a 2080ti. If it has more than 10gb of ram (i bet 3070 has 8 and 3070ti has 16) I'm willing to buy it and use it for another 4+ years. I just want to be able to do decent ray-tracing at 2k and put everything on 'max/ultra' for at least 2 years, AND have ray-tracing. Ray-tracing is what's making me want to buy the 30 series. edit: the 2080ti only has 11gb of ram? drat. maybe the 2070ti will have something similar. redreader fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Aug 21, 2020 |
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:It's spitballing more than anything else. Common sense alone tells us there is no way the XSX's graphical output will match anywhere near a $1100 video card. Digital Foundry saw a 2-week port of Gears 5 on the Series X months ago and said the performance was basically equivalent to it running on a 2080 (and Gears 5 is well optimized on the PC). quote:The XSX is tiny and has to think about thermals, something AMD is notoriously poor at with high-end GPUs (vega 56 and 64 says hello). quote:If it truly was 2080ti level power, their flagship game Halo Infinite wouldn't look like such a bag of poo poo now would it? I think that's the most telling thing. Happy_Misanthrope fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Aug 21, 2020 |
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Aug 21, 2020 19:02
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The working class is a different loving world. I grew up poor (UK) and it's no way to live. Neither of my parents made it to 70 cos they lived such lovely loving lives eating terrible red meat and junk that was out of date because that was all they could afford. I remeber getting back from school and literally picking apart bread to eat because it had mold on it. And this isn't just a unique thing, pretty much all of us went through this as kids in my area. I still can't believe half the poo poo I went through growing up, I count my blessings every day while simultaneously cursing my parents who somehow thought it was a good idea to have five of us while impoverished... ??? I don't know why they did that. It just made us all miserable to no end. Thanks for reading my blog lol, whenever working class stuff comes up I always have to vent. What a shitshow man.
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DrDork posted:money they normally would have spent going out uh what now
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People who are working are spending less money. They aren't going out to expensive restaurants. They aren't taking expensive vacations. They aren't spending money on gatherings. So their disposable income is way up. And when you're spending more time at home, that GPU or console which never was that expensive to you, but now might actually get some use, suddenly starts to look like a good buy.
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Paul MaudDib posted:uh what now How are you confused by this, other than you being Paul
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:How are you confused by this, other than you being Paul his prescience doesn't extend to reality  There's a lot of people who have disposable $ locked at home and are price insensitive. The working class that got hosed by the lockdowns didn't have much $ to spend and would never spend it on a $400 graphics card had they had it.
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p sure the joke is just that he didnt go out to begin with/doesnt think nerds are inclined to go out
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Statutory Ape posted:p sure the joke is just that he didnt go out to begin with/doesnt think nerds are inclined to go out ^
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:How are you confused by this, other than you being Paul are you really that desperate to @ me on an obvious joke
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Malcolm XML posted:The working class that got hosed by the lockdowns didn't have much $ to spend and would never spend it on a $400 graphics card had they had it. Ironically, this is normally me but the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance stars aligned and I'm considering spending too much on a video card. But if I buy an expensive one, I'll probably get 5 years out of it. Edit: and by expensive, I mean $500ish and not anywhere near Titan territory FuturePastNow fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Aug 21, 2020 |
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FuturePastNow posted:Ironically, this is normally me but the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance stars aligned and I'm considering spending too much on a video card. But if I buy an expensive one, I'll probably get 5 years out of it. It'd be bananas to spend unemployment funds on a graphics card my dude just buy a cheap last gen one if you must
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Malcolm XML posted:It'd be bananas to spend unemployment funds on a graphics card my dude just buy a cheap last gen one if you must I mean, while I agree with you in principle, there's a lot we don't know here. Maybe he lost his job, got the $1200, and then a few weeks later got a new, better job. Or moved home and now doesn't have to worry about rent. Or had his 6-figure-making S/O move in. Whatever. For a guy who would be keeping a card for 5 years, I'd actually probably recommend not picking up a Turing card unless prices absolutely tank on them. The reason for this is because Ampere will (presumably--holy gently caress it would be laughable for them to not) finally add HDMI 2.1 to the spec sheet, plus most likely an optimized iteration on the RTX/DLSS stack.
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DrDork posted:finally add HDMI 2.1 to the spec sheet is that mostly relevant for hooking up to tvs for VRR?
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Rinkles posted:is that mostly relevant for hooking up to tvs for VRR? I think DrDork has triple 4K120hz monitors and current specs don't let them all run at max resolution and frame rate.
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OhFunny posted:I think DrDork has triple 4K120hz monitors and current specs don't let them all run at max resolution and frame rate. Not yet! Waiting for HDMI 2.1, you see. But, yes, HDMI 2.1 will let you connect up to TV's/monitors that are 4k@120 w/VRR, which is pretty swank. For standard PC use, current HDMI 2.0b limits you to 4k@60, and DP 1.4 can do 4k@120Hz, but only with DSC. While this isn't an immediate concern for most people right this minute, in a few years those sorts of monitors will be commonplace, and it'd suck to lose out on that because you wanted to save $50 or something on a GPU. Again, that's a "I'm keeping it for 5 years" view, which I think applies to a minority of people in this thread. Also, it'll naturally depend on what the prices actually end up looking like. If I had $500 and it was a choice between a 3060 or a used 2080Ti, you'd get a lot more with the 2080Ti. But if it's more like a $500 3070 vs a $450 used 2080 that gets beat by the 3070, the savings wouldn't be worth it. I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.
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HDMI 2.1 VRR is on the current RTX cards and it rules.OhFunny posted:I think DrDork has triple 4K120hz monitors and current specs don't let them all run at max resolution and frame rate. Not even one monitor can do 4k/120 on HDMI right now, and even when they will, it will not be across 3 monitors unless it's a very old game.
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Taima posted:HDMI 2.1 VRR is on the current RTX cards and it rules. Yeah, just note that Turing is running HDMI 2.0b with VRR enabled, not actual HDMI 2.1. That VRR is a (optional) part of the HDMI 2.1 spec makes it kinda confusing with how some sites made the announcement, but there's no bandwidth bump from the update. You are right that no current PC monitor supports HDMI 2.1, but we already have TV's that do (LG C9 series) for 4k@120Hz. Presumably we will see PC monitors start dropping in the not too distant future with HDMI 2.1 and 4k@120 panels, given that HDMI 2.1 has been this bizarre chicken-and-egg thing for a few years. I think we can mostly thank consoles for finally "fixing" that issue for us all. You don't need to span a game across 3x4k@120 screens to enjoy them. Me, specifically, I'll be looking for one ~5k 21:9 @120+ central panel for gaming with two flanking 1440p@100+ panels for other things. While those side ones already exist, that central one can't exist given HDMI 2.0/DP 1.4 bandwidth, so I'm waiting for now.
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DrDork posted:That VRR is a (optional) part of the HDMI 2.1 spec oh god that is gonna be a pain when looking for tvs
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HDMI 2.1 will make the 4k/144/HDR monitors worth considering seriously (and producing seriously for the OEMs), and that also makes it Good
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Rinkles posted:oh god that is gonna be a pain when looking for tvs Oh yeah, it's gonna be a total poo poo-show. While I expect that your higher-end TVs will throw it in there pretty much all the time, the $500 budget model? Good luck! It's just gonna say "HDMI 2.1 support" and hope you don't ask too many questions.
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https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1296903927259111433 das a big boy
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Cygni posted:das a big boy Waiting for one of the NVidia partners to steal the Thiccc naming scheme from AMD for that. Jesus.
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Wouldn't surprise me if we get our first four slot AIB card. Or at least a "3.75" slotter.
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I think my 2080ti xc ultra was 3.75 slots before I swapped the cooler but I can't remember.
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